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NDPP

Of course they're not Nazis.

Nazis were members of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP), who assumed power in Germany in 1933 and effectively ended on May 7, 1945. So,  pleased to announce to all those that hadn't heard the Nazis are no more.

It's a simple title chosen on the fly not a treatise. I didn't ponder unduly at its choosing. It works for me. Blame it on Jerry Seinfeld. Instead of 'soup' you got 'nato'.

NDPP

US Could Be At War With China In Just 15 Years, Warns Ex-US Army Chief in Europe

https://on.rt.com/9h8f

"The former commander of the US Army in Europe has issued a sobering assessment of the deteriorating state of US-Chinese relations, predicting that it's very likely the two nations will be at war in fifteen years. Speaking at the Warsaw Security Forum on Wednesday, Retired Lt Gen Ben Hodges said that the US will have to shift its military to the Pacific 'to deal with the Chinese threat' - requiring Europe to take a more active role in its own defenses..."

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The Anti-Russia Cold War in the Arctic is Heating Up

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/10/26/the-anti-russia-cold-war-in-the-...

"...NATO is always on the lookout for excuses to indulge in military action (such as its nine-month aerial blitz that destroyed Libya [led by  Lt.Gen. Charles Bouchard RCAF]), and its Arctic-focused Trident Juncture is yet another confrontational military fandango designed to ramp up tensions.

The US-NATO military alliance is preparing for war in the arctic, and is deliberately provoking Russia by conducting massive hi-tech maneuvers ever-closer to its borders. But the Pentagon and its sub-office in Brussels had better be careful."

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Putin's Russia in biggest Arctic military push since Soviet fall

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But nearly three decades after the Lenin was taken out of service to be turned into a visitor attraction, Russia is again on the march in the Arctic and building new nuclear icebreakers.

It is part of a push to firm Moscow's hand in the High North as it vies for dominance with traditional rivals Canada, the United States, and Norway as well as newcomer China.

Interviews with officials and military analysts and reviews of government documents show Russia’s build-up is the biggest since the 1991 Soviet fall and will, in some areas, give Moscow more military capabilities than the Soviet Union once had.

Martin N.

Is it not easier to just learn Russian than all the effort required for defense? All those icky guns and assorted macho stuff - much easier to be peace loving isnt it? Like Poland in 1940.

WWWTT

Here's a thought. What if Russia invaded the northern regions of North America, won, then supported the Indiginous peoples of Alaska North west territories, Nunavit and Greenland to form completely independent governments?

Or is it more important to keep these regions Danish, US and Canadian?

NDPP

Russian Strategies  in the Arctic: Avoiding A New Cold War

http://www.uarctic.org/media/857300/arctic_eng.pdf

"Differing views of Russia's Arctic policies..."

6079_Smith_W

NDPP wrote:

Of course they're not Nazis.

It's a simple title chosen on the fly not a treatise. I didn't ponder unduly at its choosing. It works for me. Blame it on Jerry Seinfeld. Instead of 'soup' you got 'nato'.

I made it up.

It doesn't matter because no one here is going to care.

Blame Seinfeld.

 

NDPP

NATO's Nazi Beginnings

https://off-guardian.org/2018/10/29/natos-nazi-beginnings/

"At the same time as the West was planning its covert actions against its WWII ally, it also created the formation of the terror club known as NATO. Almost in its entirety it was a Nazi enterprise..."

And the nut never falls far from the tree...

https://twitter.com/mikolaswed/status/913468028741996545

Sean in Ottawa

WWWTT wrote:

Here's a thought. What if Russia invaded the northern regions of North America, won, then supported the Indiginous peoples of Alaska North west territories, Nunavit and Greenland to form completely independent governments?

Or is it more important to keep these regions Danish, US and Canadian?

Is there a population large enough to support a government? Would the Russians let one be independent any more than Canada and the US would.

I think not on both counts. Still it is a nice fantasy to imagine. I think the fantasy gets popped once you consider that the most powerful piece could be Republican-voting Alaska... the rest might prefer to stay Danish or Canadian than be effectively colonized by Alaska.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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Still it is a nice fantasy to imagine. I think the fantasy gets popped once you consider that the most powerful piece could be Republican-voting Alaska

For me it got popped as soon as I had to imagine Russia going to war with three countries, winning, then magnanimously handing the Arctic over to Indigenous people with a hearty "You're welcome!!" like a fireman rescuing an old lady's cat from a tree.

Sean in Ottawa

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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Still it is a nice fantasy to imagine. I think the fantasy gets popped once you consider that the most powerful piece could be Republican-voting Alaska

For me it got popped as soon as I had to imagine Russia going to war with three countries, winning, then magnanimously handing the Arctic over to Indigenous people with a hearty "You're welcome!!" like a fireman rescuing an old lady's cat from a tree.

Sure but even if you suspend belief about the means, the result is also not desireable. Canada's North would rather be attached to Canada -- as shitty is it is to them -- than to Alaska. Of this I am sure. Even with a fantasy means ther eis no desire for that. 

If I want to fantasize, I would rather indulge in Northern Canada, Iceland, Norway, Sweden and Finland - even the most northern Russians being connected than a relationship with what lives in Alaska.

6079_Smith_W

And because the first thing they did when they walked into Crimea was hand it back to the Tartars.

 

WWWTT

Mr Magoo wrote

For me it got popped as soon as I had to imagine Russia going to war with three countries, winning, then magnanimously handing the Arctic over to Indigenous people with a hearty "You're welcome!!" like a fireman rescuing an old lady's cat from a tree.

I guess you never heard of North Korea or Mongolia before?

WWWTT

How about Vietnam? Or Angola? Cuba ring a bell? Ever been to Mozambique?

WWWTT

I wonder how Syria beat off those US Saudi Israel backed ISIS?

NDPP

NATO Membership For Ukraine and Georgia Would Bring Out the Bear in Russia (and vid)

https://on.rt.com/9hsz

"Western leaders argue that the growth of NATO along Russia's border together with the militarization of Eastern Europe is necessary for preserving peace with Moscow. Nothing could be further from the truth..."

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Halifax International Security Forum 2018: Opening Remarks From Peter Van Praagh, President

https://halifaxtheforum.org/opening-remarks-from-peter-van-praagh-presid...

"Senator John McCain was an American Hero for the World. It was our honor to welcome him here to Halifax International Security Forum every year. We will miss him very much. This year, our honor is to welcome Mrs Cindy McCain, who has been with us here before, and who tomorrow morning will be awarding the inaugural John McCain Prize for Leadership in Public Service. Mrs McCain, welcome.

Ministers, Members of Parliament, Members of the Congressional Delegation, Distinguished Officers, Ladies and Gentlemen, colleagues and friends: Welcome to Halifax. In a moment, you will hear from the Hon Harjit Sajjan, Canada's Minister of National Defence and your host for the weekend..."

Pity there appears to be no Canadian peace movement worthy of the name and times. Pity so many, including 'progressives' subscribe to the ideas of warmongers like these, rather than fighting with every fibre of their being to shut them down. Let the warmongering and paranoia begin...

NDPP

Greatest Crime on Earth (and vid)

https://worldbeyondwar.org/greatest-crime-on-earth/

"We are many. They are few. No to NATO. No to bases. No to war in distant places..."

NDPP

NATO Economic Straightjacket: Military Spending Drains Public Coffers, Triggers Collapse of Social Programs

https://www.globalresearch.ca/nato-economic-straightjacket-military-spen...

"Canada's NATO contributions are directly linked to the current diseconomy plaguing this country. Last year alone, Canada spent $32 billion on military spending according to Public Accounts Canada, largely to bolster US imperialism abroad, to the detriment to humanity. US-led NATO is an aggressive military alliance..."

But just keep sucking up all that anti-Russia, anti-China war propaganda that is relentlessly spewed from US-based msm chumps and it'll all seem worth it.

NDPP

NATO's Largesse: 'Nuclear Sharing'

https://blackagendareport.com/natos-largesse-nuclear-sharing

"The New Cold War is escalating, fueled by Washington's bid to isolate or strangle Russia. The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute ranks Russia's military budget as the fourth greatest in the world, after those of the US, China, and Saudi Arabia, and one-tenth the size of the US military budget. Are we being conned by the Pentagon and the military industrial complex? Hell yes and that's among the greatest understatements of the 20th and 21st centuries.

The US is by contrast an empire declining beneath the weight of its grotesque military budgets and wars, even if it's not sinking as fast as Norway's frigate in NATO's latest war games. Question is, will its handlers take the rest of the world down with it, either by accident or on purpose?

NDPP

Latest Odds of a Shooting War Between NATO & Russia

https://t.co/PHaICszX8Y

"Hungarian scholar George Szamuely tells Ann Garrison that he sees a 70 percent chance of combat between NATO and Russia following the incident in the Kerch Strait and that it is being fueled by Russiagate."

 

Psychoanalyzing NATO: Schizophrenia

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/12/15/psychoanalysing-nato-s...

"There is a striking schizophrenia among NATO members: Russia is, at one and the same time, so weak it's 'doomed' and so strong it's demolishing NATOland. Sounds as if we're the ones who are doomed..."

NDPP

Worse Than Obsolete: NATO Creates Enemies

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/12/31/worse-than-obsolete-nato-creates...

"NATO's and the US military's desecration of corpses, attacks on wedding parties, mosques, hospitals and market places - along with the bombing of allied troops, torture of prisoners and their notoriously unaccountable drone warfare - are a few of the alliance's more infamous outrages in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen and Somalia...."
 

'We'll change NATO from within!'  - Jack Layton, NDP

WWWTT

Odd statement for Jack Layton to make? Or it makes sense if he’s basically trying to say the NDP has now officially sold out. 

Anyways here’s another link about the nato nazis

https://fbreporter.org/2018/08/11/gabriella-lima-nato-actions-contradict-their-values/

WWWTT
NDPP

Fall of Empires: London, Washington & Paris on Brink of Collapse (by George Galloway)

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/448381-fall-empires-washington-london-paris/
 

"Despite the thrashing around of the NATO disinformation apparat, the imperial heartland has entered 2019 in a state of complete chaos...The old order is dying; the new one cannot be born. If we are not careful we will soon be alive in the time of monsters."

NDPP

Top Ten Reasons Not To Love NATO

http://davidswanson.org/top-10-reasons-not-to-love-nato/

"The New York Times loves NATO, but should you...?"

NDPP

MSC2019: US Senator Lindsey Graham on NATO, Syria, Trump, EU and China Threat

https://youtu.be/ZjXySpGhEKU

"NATO has been a very good partner for the United States..."

NDPP

NATO's Atlantic Council Hijacks Munich Conference With Revisionist 'Principles' Declaration

https://on.rt.com/9olj

'New Atlantic Charter': Dei Neue Ordnung Redux

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It is Long Past Time To Stop Expanding NATO

https://warontherocks.com/2019/03/it-is-long-past-time-to-stop-expanding...

"Expansion weakens the alliance rather than strengthening it. Every state added to NATO brings a strategic liability. They are consumers of security not providers..."

NDPP

Trump Wants Brazil To Join NATO Under Far-Right Leader Bolsonaro

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1108140169289441280

"As Trump calls for Brazil's fascist government to join NATO, don't forget NATO produced a f(l) ashy film that honored the Forest Brothers - Baltic Nazi collaborators who murdered Jews in the Holocaust - as anti-communist heroes."

He'll fit in perfectly. Just exactly the right club for people like him. 

WWWTT

No way Russia India China would ever tolerate this! I can see this bringing the big three together to form some kind of new Asian military alliance to counter. 

Also an NATO expansion into South America is unheard of!

Another thing is the size of the Brazilian military, I’m not even sure the US would even tolerate the fact that if Brazil joined, Brazil would be pulling a lot of influence away from the US????

This is odd?

NDPP

Hellbent: 78 Days of Bombing Yugoslavia

https://youtu.be/_ddjyv80kgQ

"Commemorating the 20th anniversary of NATO's 78 day bombing campaign against Yugoslavia. 'When they dropped the DU they knew that for 4.7 billion years their radioactive material would keep killing people."

'We'll change it from within!' - Jack Layton on Canada in NATO.

NDPP

Pelosi and McConnell: Cranking Up Bipartisan Madness For NATO

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/03/29/pelosi-and-mcconnell-cranking-up...

"...McCain conveyed the common madness of reverence for NATO and the common intolerance for anything that might approach a rational debate on whether it's a good idea to keep expecting an American-led military alliance to, in effect, push Russia into a corner. Doing so is understandably viewed from Russia as a direct threat. (Imagine a Russian-led military alliance expanding to Canada and Mexico, complete with some of the latest missile systems on the planet.)

Ever since the fall of the Berlin Wall - and the quickly broken promises by the US government in 1990 that NATO would move 'not one inch eastward' - NATO has ben closing in on Russia's borders while bringing one nation after another into full military membership.' During the last three decades, NATO has added 13 countries - and it's not done yet.

As NATO marks its 70th anniversary next week with a range of activities - including a White House  welcome for Stoltenberg on Tuesday, his speech to Congress the next day and an official 'celebration' on April 4 - a 'NO TO NATO' week will be held in Washington.

A statement from the campaign says that 'NATO and a just, peaceful and sustainable world are incompatible. It is an unjust, undemocratic, violent and aggressive alliance trying to shape the world for the benefit of a few..."

Enjoying all-party support in Canada.

NDPP

Engler: Canada and 70th Anniversary of NATO

https://dissidentvoice.org/2019/03/canada-and-70th-anniversary-of-nato/

"The first installment in this series discussed how NATO was set up partly to blunt the European left. The other major factor driving the creation of NATO was a desire to bolster colonial authority and bring the world under a US geopolitical umbrella..."

NDPP

70 Years of NATO Charts 70 Years of Brute Force and Hard Power

https://on.rt.com/9rhl

"The existence of NATO 70 years on from its creation is an insult to the millions who died so that the UN Charter could be born..."

NDPP

Global NATO: A 70 Year Alliance of Oppressors in Crisis

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/04/09/global-nato-a-70-year-alliance-o...

"The evidence of the manipulation of the peoples of the world to ensure the continued survival of NATO has been well documented...Vijay Prashad has identified NATO as the prime defender of the Atlantic project. The Atlantic project he noted was, 'a fairly straightforward campaign by the propertied classes to maintain or restore their position of dominance..."

See also 'the rules-based international order'

NDPP

Scott Taylor: On Target - US Moral Claim To High Ground is Pure Hypocrisy

http://espritdecorps.ca/on-target-4/on-target-us-claim-to-moral-high-gro...

"...First of all, who even knew that the US had a contingent of troops in Libya in the first place? Even during the rebellion [Nato-backed regime change] in 2011, the deployment of US, British French and yes, even Canadian special forces, troops on the ground were officially denied. Canada unofficially let the cat out of the bag by having members of the Special Operations Regiment (CSOR) march in the Nov. 24, 2011 victory parade on Parliament Hill but no official announcement was ever made.

As for the US troops in Libya, no mention was made of how many were withdrawn or how many remain on the ground. If US troops are fighting and killing people in Libya, exactly who are they battling? Just as important is the question of who exactly are they fighting in support of, and under what legal authority? If the US truly respected international law, they would not be withdrawing troops from Libya and Syria because they should never have been deployed there in the first place.

The NATO cheerleaders and apologists pride themselves on claiming that we, as alliance members, are part of a 'rules-based international order'. This, they tell us, is what sets us apart from rogue states like Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, Pakistan, etc who simply play by their own set of rules. If the true rule of the jungle is that 'might is right' then let's start by being honest with ourselves and quit the moral posturing. Rules are only for the weak."

Paladin1

By declaring war on Canada the Philippines will be declaring war on NATO (article 5).

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