Trudeau vulnerable in Fall election amid growing damage from SNC-Lavalin file: Chantal Hebert

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Trudeau vulnerable in Fall election amid growing damage from SNC-Lavalin file: Chantal Hebert

When so-called progressive parties like the Liberals promise and then don't deliver, it unfortunately opens the door for the right-wing parties. 

Where is a comprehensive housing program for Canadians?

Where is the national pharmacare program for Canadians?

Why was Jody Wilson-Raybould — the first Indigenous Canadian to hold the justice portfolio, demoted if you believe in Reconciliation?

Why did Trudeau take the low road by not giving Jagmeet Singh the professional courtesy he deserved running in Burnaby South? 

And the issue probably most Canadians are presently upset about - why is Ms Wanzhou under house arrrest in her own multi-million dollar home in the tony West side of Vancouver while several Canadians are now languishing in Chinese jails! 

Federal Liberal’s missteps have put their pre-election advantage at risk

 

Even before the opposition parties had the opportunity to fire their first question period shot of the year on Monday, Justin Trudeau’s Liberals were walking wounded.

From a cabinet shuffle that raised questions in many quarters about the prime minister’s commitment to Indigenous reconciliation to the firing of Trudeau’s handpicked envoy to China in the midst of a major dispute and including a byelection mess in Burnaby South, the first three weeks of 2019 have been bruising ones for the ruling party.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau makes his way through the foyer of the House of Commons in the West Block of Parliament Hill as he arrives for question period in Ottawa on Jan. 28, 2019. In addition to concerns about the party’s recent blunders, Liberals worry that the prime minister may be aligning himself too closely with President Donald Trump, Chantal Hébert writes.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau makes his way through the foyer of the House of Commons in the West Block of Parliament Hill as he arrives for question period in Ottawa on Jan. 28, 2019. In addition to concerns about the party’s recent blunders, Liberals worry that the prime minister may be aligning himself too closely with President Donald Trump, Chantal Hébert writes.  (SEAN KILPATRICK / THE CANADIAN PRESS)

Remarkably all the hits the Liberals have been taking since the New Year have been self-inflicted.

 

  • The shuffle was meant to ensure the cabinet was battle-ready and, ideally, more bulletproof as the ruling party enters an election year.

 

But Trudeau’s decision to move Jody Wilson-Raybould — the first Indigenous Canadian to hold the justice portfolio — to the lower-profile post of veterans’ affairs AND the replacement of one of his top cabinet performers with an less-than-overwhelming one at Indigenous services stole the show.

It was predictably seen as a negative signal on the reconciliation front.

 

  • From the start, the Burnaby South byelection saga did not feature the Liberals at their best.

 

They looked cynical when they declined to give NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh an early opportunity to run for the seat last fall only to then have to replace candidate Karen Wang almost overnight after she appealed to the Chinese community to vote along ethnic lines in the Feb. 25 vote.

 

  • Coming as it did in the midst of a serious dispute with China over American demands that Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou be held until she can be extradited to the U.S., the firing this weekend of John McCallum as ambassador to Beijing has made the government look inept in its handling of a top-of-mind foreign policy file. It compounded a week of mixed federal messages on the issue.

 

The sum of the accumulated blunders is the increasingly widespread perception that the government is flying by the seat of its pants on the policy front and going into an election year on little more than a wing and a prayer.

https://www.thestar.com/politics/political-opinion/2019/01/28/federal-li...

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Perhaps when Jagmeet is in the House of Commons things will begin to change. 

‘I’m worried about the future of this country.’ Jagmeet Singh says he’s not thinking about what happens if he loses Burnaby South

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2019/01/28/im-worried-about-the...

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The more I read Chantal’s works, the more obvious it is she’s just a liberal hack!

Shes only a propaganda writer with a veil cloak already blown away. 

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Why did Trudeau take the low road by not giving Jagmeet Singh the professional courtesy he deserved running in Burnaby South? 

I dunno. Maybe for the same reason that the NDP took "the low road" by not giving Trudeau the leader's courtesy he supposedly deserved in 2015?

And the issue probably most Canadians are presently upset about - why is Ms Wanzhou under house arrrest in her own multi-million dollar home in the tony West side of Vancouver while several Canadians are now languishing in Chinese jails!

Probably because Trudeau has neither the power to tell Canadian courts what to do in regards to granting bail, nor the power to tell Chinese courts who they can and can't send to jail.  

https://tinyurl.com/yc64ur5d

 

 

bekayne

voice of the damned wrote:

Why did Trudeau take the low road by not giving Jagmeet Singh the professional courtesy he deserved running in Burnaby South? 

I dunno. Maybe for the same reason that the NDP took "the low road" by not giving Trudeau the leader's courtesy he supposedly deserved in 2015?

And the NDP ran byelection candidates against Stephen Harper, Joe Clark, Jean Chretien, Stockwell Day.

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The more I read Chantal’s works, the more obvious it is she’s just a liberal hack!

Shes only a propaganda writer with a veil cloak already blown away. 

She's a Liberal hack alright but she's begged the question of the choice between the Conservatives and the Liberals. We refuse to acknowledge that at our peril. 

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This attempt by the Liberals to discredit Jagmeet Singh which really does border on racism if allowed to continue is one huge mistake because there now is a strong possibility the PMO will be discredited and the only alternative to the Conservatives forming the next government will be a strong showing by the NDP

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bekayne wrote:
And the NDP ran byelection candidates against Stephen Harper, Joe Clark, Jean Chretien, Stockwell Day.

And Brian Mulroney.

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brookmere wrote:

bekayne wrote:
And the NDP ran byelection candidates against Stephen Harper, Joe Clark, Jean Chretien, Stockwell Day.

And Brian Mulroney.

I think the only time they didn't was Stanfield.

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The Duffy affair was bigger and it didn't hurt Harper. Duffy, Brazeau and Wallin are all back in the Senate with their cushy lifetime appointments. Where is the outrage? 

Pundits are constantly predicting the demise of political figures because pundits are the entertainers of the establishment. I'm sure they see themselves as honest purveyors of political commentary but they are invested in the status quo. They don't question or challenge it. 

Judging Trudeau in a vacuum is pointless. He only has to be more popular than Scheer and Singh. 

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'Rule of Law' in the Trudeau Era

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/law-trudeau-era-19021711331241...

"...Turns out they're not that bright."

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Michael Moriarity

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'Rule of Law' in the Trudeau Era

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/law-trudeau-era-19021711331241...

"...Turns out they're not that bright."

The conclusion to this essay deserves a longer quote.

Andrew Mitrovica wrote:

Political reporters like to build myths about the people they cover. The myth manufactured about Trudeau and his confidants is that they represent the best and the brightest.

Turns out, they're not that bright. The elixir of power made them too comfortable; it fed their innate hubris. Now, they can only watch, impotent, as, drip by drip, their equally swaggering boss is exposed as a feminist fraud, whose "people" possibly skirt the rule of law when corporate interests demand it, who disdains transparency to protect his incumbency, who casts aside accomplished Indigenous women when it is expedient, and who shifts his story faster than a weather vane in Manitoba's tornado-prone plains.

Discerning Canadians knew it from the first. Today, others are finally, if belatedly, catching on.  

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Everything else is trite symbolism designed to persuade the gullible of the Trudeau government's phantom "progressive" credentials.

This is the prism through which the Canadian prime minister's current travails, which have exposed the Liberal Party's signature hubris and habitual preference for power over principle, must be viewed. The veil has slipped and Trudeau et al may be headed back to the gulag come the next general election in October.

The hubris of pundits and politcal junkies is to assume that the public bought the propaganda. Polls generally show politicians at the bottom of the credibility polls. 

Come the week or two before the next elections Canadians will take a look at the three politicians/parties on offer and pick one. It will probably be Trudeau based on he's better than Scheer. 

When the Conservatives cheated on an election and made a deal to avoid prosecution it didn't hurt them. The PMO paying off Duffy to try to shut him up didn't hurt Harper. 

The week before the election, no one will care about SNC-Lavelin. They will vote based on who they think will provide economic stability. 

Sean in Ottawa

Pondering wrote:

The week before the election, no one will care about SNC-Lavelin. They will vote based on who they think will provide economic stability. 

Or whatever else they want or like about the parties.

Economic stability is the big one but not the only one. It might be health care, or pandering to their fears -- but it will be something that they care about and relate to.

That said corruption can make people angry and vote based on that anger. The sense that government is being mismanaged and that this is a threat to the voter is a real fear -- even if it is trumped up.

In this case, corruption does have consequences. It is not yet clear to me that the Liberals will pay a price for this at the ballot box. The explanation is complicated and the smoking gun is behind a veil. Still, the Liberals are at grave risk given the previous time in power -- and the impression of Liberals is one of corruption based on the last time they were in power in Ontario in particular. I think that the public may have fairly low tolerence for corruption on behalf of the Liberals. Many people consider that the government is spending our money and that a waste is a personal cost.

I think the Liberals have to hope that more evidence does not come out to make this become a simpler story -- one of confirmed fact instead of deep suspicion.

With the loss of a minister, and now Butts there will be some cost.

Given who the minister is the cost from those who are concerned about justice for Indigenous people will also be very real. It is hard to say if people who care about Indigenous reconciliation will choose not to vote or to vote for another party. I am certain that the number who vote Liberal will be reduced if the Liberals cannot stop this story now.

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Looks like Jody Wilson Raybould and Justin Trudeau are going  to mend fences, now that Gerald Butts is out

Jody Wilson Raybould visits the cabinet table, is invited by a Liberal MP to appear at a justice committee a couple hours later and says she will appear to testify, if her lawyer gives her the green light. Things are looking a little brighter for the PMO today.

https://twitter.com/DonMartinCTV/status/1097963875138441216

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It’s kinda hard to understate how tight Gerald Butts is with Justin Trudeau. The fact Trudeau would even entertain the idea of accepting Butts’ resignation shows how serious a threat the SNC-Lavalin allegations are to Trudeau’s prime ministership.

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It’s kinda hard to understate how tight Gerald Butts is with Justin Trudeau. The fact Trudeau would even entertain the idea of accepting Butts’ resignation shows how serious a threat the SNC-Lavalin allegations are to Trudeau’s prime ministership.

Gerald Butts said he was leaving the PMO - what was left out of his letter was IF he was leaving the Liberal re-election campaign team. Those are two separate organization. My guess is when the smoke clears, Butts will be leading the election campaign outside the PMO

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Looks like Jody Wilson Raybould and Justin Trudeau are going  to mend fences, now that Gerald Butts is out

Jody Wilson Raybould visits the cabinet table, is invited by a Liberal MP to appear at a justice committee a couple hours later and says she will appear to testify, if her lawyer gives her the green light. Things are looking a little brighter for the PMO today.

https://twitter.com/DonMartinCTV/status/1097963875138441216

A lot of people got played like fiddles.

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bekayne

NorthReport wrote:

I thought this only happened to the NDP 

Ha! Ha!

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/fatah-its-not-just-butts-trudeau-should-consider-stepping-down/amp

What? Get attacked by right wing cranks?

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Sean in Ottawa wrote:

Pondering wrote:

The week before the election, no one will care about SNC-Lavelin. They will vote based on who they think will provide economic stability. 

Or whatever else they want or like about the parties.

Economic stability is the big one but not the only one. It might be health care, or pandering to their fears -- but it will be something that they care about and relate to.

That said corruption can make people angry and vote based on that anger. The sense that government is being mismanaged and that this is a threat to the voter is a real fear -- even if it is trumped up.

In this case, corruption does have consequences. It is not yet clear to me that the Liberals will pay a price for this at the ballot box. The explanation is complicated and the smoking gun is behind a veil. Still, the Liberals are at grave risk given the previous time in power -- and the impression of Liberals is one of corruption based on the last time they were in power in Ontario in particular. I think that the public may have fairly low tolerence for corruption on behalf of the Liberals. Many people consider that the government is spending our money and that a waste is a personal cost.

I think the Liberals have to hope that more evidence does not come out to make this become a simpler story -- one of confirmed fact instead of deep suspicion.

With the loss of a minister, and now Butts there will be some cost.

Given who the minister is the cost from those who are concerned about justice for Indigenous people will also be very real. It is hard to say if people who care about Indigenous reconciliation will choose not to vote or to vote for another party. I am certain that the number who vote Liberal will be reduced if the Liberals cannot stop this story now.

The JWR part could hurt him but I don't think the corruption part will touch him. With Martin the sponsorship scandal played a large part but so did the infighting that led to deposing Chretien and the fact that the Liberals were very long in the tooth at that point. Harper was a fresh face, a boring economist.

I don't think Scheer can take either Quebec or Ontario from Trudeau this time around. 

I don't blame Singh for the state of the party. The NDP is a divided house. Even if it were not he is facing a rough landscape. People no longer fear the Conservative social agenda. When they are done with the Liberals they will most likely flip back to the Conservatives. 

The problem isn't the NDP, it's Canadians who are over all satisfied with the way Canada is run. 

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Mighty Middle

NorthReport wrote:

I thought this only happened to the NDP 

Ha! Ha!

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/fatah-its-not-just-butts-trudeau-should-consider-stepping-down/amp

You are linking to an op-ed by a newspaper that printed a false story about Muslims slaughtering sheep in a Toronto Hotel.

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I was wondering about this as well Why did Butts actually resign? Doesn’t look good Liberals!

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-is-there-another-storm-coming-that-gerald-butts-was-trying-to-deter

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bekayne wrote:

A lot of people got played like fiddles.

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It's how Canadian politics is done.

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What’s the clerk doing sticking his nose into things? Sounds like he should be fired on the spot!

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