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josh

Paladin1 wrote:

So what should the world do?

What should Canada do?

 

Offer the people Venezuela thoughts and prayers?

Throw millions of dollars at the problem, hoping whatever companies recieve the aid money mostly spend it on aid?

Sanction the starving people until they, risk starving further?

Become physically involved and try to force a government change?

Do?  Do what was done in those other examples. And provide humanitarian aid not contingent on a political objective.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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Do what was done in those other examples. And provide humanitarian aid not contingent on a political objective.

Providing aid could be kind of difficult in that Maduro refuses it.  And I don't mean right now, when that aid is a chess piece for Guaido, but before Guaido was even a player in all this.

JKR

Michael Moriarity wrote:

JKR wrote:

... and weren’t leading opposition candidates prevented from running in the presidential election?

I think western countries should recognize Lula as the legitimate president of Brazil, since he was way ahead in the polls, but was prevented from running by a totally corrupt judiciary. But I don't hear Trudeau making any statements about that, or questioning the legitimacy of Bolsonaro.

Maybe the leader of Brazil’s parliament should declare that Bolsonaro is illegitimate and should be replaced and that as soon as practicable there should be new elections that can include Lula?

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Thanks for the link, this is the only on the ground reporting I've seen. Good on Max Blumenthal.

iyraste1313

ERIC ZUESSE | 10.02.2019 | FEATURED STORY...strategic-culture.org

Why Venezuela’s People Are Suffering

INTRODUCTION

The case that will be documented here is that Venezuela’s people are suffering from a tragic national situation which actually cannot be reversed by anything that’s within the power of Venezuela’s Government to do or to block. In order to understand this very unfortunate reality (if one wants to understand it), one must first understand the relevant parts of the broader situation in the world that affects Venezuela. What’s dooming the country isn’t merely a local situation, but instead is global and environmental. It also is economic, pertaining to the role that Venezuela is playing in the global economy. But the economic factor is definitely not of the kind that it's commonly assumed and alleged to be. It is instead very different. 

Here, this very different reality will be both described and documented (instead of just founded upon assumptions — many of which are false — such as the standard, basically local, economic ‘explanation’ of Venezuela’s troubles is, which focuses on Venezuela’s socialism, or the economy’s being not sufficiently capitalist). 

What it all comes down to, stated in its briefest terms, is that no nation can do anything but lose money by selling the world’s dirtiest oil, tar-sands oil, which costs $100+ to clean and produce, into a global oil market that’s paying less than $100 (currently around $65) per barrel. Venezuela was able to sell it profitably when oil-prices were high, but is getting crushed now, because its oil is no longer profitable to produce and sell. But 95% of Venezuela’s export-earnings come from oil. Unless and until oil-prices are again above $100 (which probably won’t happen again, except perhaps for very brief periods), Venezuela is doomed. Venezuela’s only chance to diversify its economy away from “the natural resources curse” (from which it especially suffers) was long ago, decades before the current Government came into power. That chance was missed. This ship is now sinking, and no one can save it. (And the US Government and its allies have no actual interest in saving it, but only in exploiting it, parasitically.)

So, here the real history and context for what is happening in and to Venezuela will be presented, and the reader will be able easily to verify any detail of it (by means of the links) — on one’s own, (not accepting anything on mere ‘authority’, which, in such a politically charged matter as this, is almost invariably propaganda). The reader can verify any allegation here simply by clicking onto the given link, at any point in the presentation that might seem to be questionable. .........

...interesting comparison to Canada´s situation...extraction of our dirty oils indeed is creating major climactic changes, due I believe to the massive infusions of vapour into the atmosphere, and all non profitable?

NDPP

TRNN: Blood For Oil

https://youtu.be/cuUxcTZNigw

"Vijay Prashad discusses the extent to which US interest in Venezuela oil and other natural resources is driving Trump's policy of seeking regime change."

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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So Magoo as expected you are backing the fascist coup.

only that the people of Venezuela deserve an honest opportunity to decide that for themselves.

You are delegitimatizing a legitimate government. What does a government do if the people backed by the US don't want to play because they knew they didn't have to run against the other parties but just wait to be anointed by the imperial power. They had a fair election according to Canadians I trust to be unbiased and they had a process before hand to try and bring order to the constitutional crisis that the fascist opposition has been provoking. Fuck you and your arrogant belief that from Canada you can decide whether their electoral process is fair when some of your fellow citizens actually got off their asses to go and find out.

Venezuelan law stipulates that a political party is liable to have its legal status revoked should it fail to participate in two consecutive electoral processes (art 27c), and that it may be subject to a process of renovation by the CNE which includes collecting a sample list of its members’ signatures (art 26).

Four major opposition parties ─ Democratic Action (AD, led by Henry Ramos Allup), Popular Will (VP, led by Leopoldo Lopez and Freddy Guevara), A New Era (UNT, led by Omar Barboza and Manuel Rosales) and First Justice (PJ, led by Julio Borges and Henrique Capriles) ─ will not able to participate in the upcoming elections after failing to undergo the renovation process when recently called upon to do so by the CNE.

Of the national political parties, those opposition groupings which are entitled to take part this December are: COPEI, Movement to Socialism (MAS), Progressive Advance (AP), the Venezuelan Ecological Movement (MOVEV), Popular Political Unity (UPP89), and Change. Some of these parties presented or backed candidates for the May 20 presidential elections, with Henri Falcon of AP being the most prominent of them.

They will be joined by five new anti-government political parties, which are the Force for Change (FDC), Citizens Movement for Change (CMC), Positive Citizens Action (ACEP), Solutions for Venezuela (SPV) and Lapiz.

Confronting them are ten parties of the government-backing alliance: United Socialist Party (PSUV), Communist Party (PCV), Tupamaro, People’s Electoral Movement (MEP), We Are Venezuela (SV), Authentic Renovating Organisation (ORA), Podemos, Venezuelan Popular Unity (UPV), Alliance for Change Movement (MPAPC), and Homeland for All (PPT).

https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/14047

NDPP

TRNN: Blood For Oil

https://youtu.be/cuUxcTZNigw

"Vijay Prashad discusses the extent to which US interest in Venezuela oil and other natural resources is driving Trump's policy of seeking regime change."

 

Guaicaipuro Market, Caracas Venezuela (and vid)

https://twitter.com/alboradanet/status/1094773814561595393

"Frequented by mainly lower middle-class people, located in the centre of Caracas, Venezuela. Video filmed on Sunday, Feb 10, 1:30 PM local time."

Paladin1

WWWTT wrote:

God forbid Canadians start warming up to and accepting communism!

Which communist country would you say is the best role model for Canadians warming up to communism. North Korea, China, Cuba, Vietnam or Laos?

Paladin1

josh wrote:

Paladin1 wrote:

So what should the world do?

What should Canada do?

 

Offer the people Venezuela thoughts and prayers?

Throw millions of dollars at the problem, hoping whatever companies recieve the aid money mostly spend it on aid?

Sanction the starving people until they, risk starving further?

Become physically involved and try to force a government change?

Do?  Do what was done in those other examples. And provide humanitarian aid not contingent on a political objective.

 

Few questions. 

1. Let's say we provide 6 months of humanitarian aid. We save lots of lives. What happens after 6 months? Will the problems plaguing the country since 2013 be fixed because we provided 6 months of aid? Or will they still be there, people will begin to starve again and we will need to provide another 6 months of aid.

2. Money tents to make people greedy and powerful. We know from experience with delivering aid, especially in the case of UN in Africa, a lot of it gets redirected,  stolen and sold to the people it was intended for, or horded by the government. If we're sending millions in aid should we also take measures to ensure the aid is properly and honestly put in the hands of those that need it? Up to and including armed guards (or something to that effect) to mitigate warlords, criminals and corrupt officials from taking it?  Or do drop it off, brush out hands off and pat ourselves on the back? 

JKR

iyraste1313 wrote:

ERIC ZUESSE | 10.02.2019 | FEATURED STORY...strategic-culture.org

Why Venezuela’s People Are Suffering

INTRODUCTION

The case that will be documented here is that Venezuela’s people are suffering from a tragic national situation which actually cannot be reversed by anything that’s within the power of Venezuela’s Government to do or to block. In order to understand this very unfortunate reality (if one wants to understand it), one must first understand the relevant parts of the broader situation in the world that affects Venezuela. What’s dooming the country isn’t merely a local situation, but instead is global and environmental. It also is economic, pertaining to the role that Venezuela is playing in the global economy. But the economic factor is definitely not of the kind that it's commonly assumed and alleged to be. It is instead very different. 

Here, this very different reality will be both described and documented (instead of just founded upon assumptions — many of which are false — such as the standard, basically local, economic ‘explanation’ of Venezuela’s troubles is, which focuses on Venezuela’s socialism, or the economy’s being not sufficiently capitalist). 

What it all comes down to, stated in its briefest terms, is that no nation can do anything but lose money by selling the world’s dirtiest oil, tar-sands oil, which costs $100+ to clean and produce, into a global oil market that’s paying less than $100 (currently around $65) per barrel. Venezuela was able to sell it profitably when oil-prices were high, but is getting crushed now, because its oil is no longer profitable to produce and sell. But 95% of Venezuela’s export-earnings come from oil. Unless and until oil-prices are again above $100 (which probably won’t happen again, except perhaps for very brief periods), Venezuela is doomed. Venezuela’s only chance to diversify its economy away from “the natural resources curse” (from which it especially suffers) was long ago, decades before the current Government came into power. That chance was missed. This ship is now sinking, and no one can save it. (And the US Government and its allies have no actual interest in saving it, but only in exploiting it, parasitically.)

So, here the real history and context for what is happening in and to Venezuela will be presented, and the reader will be able easily to verify any detail of it (by means of the links) — on one’s own, (not accepting anything on mere ‘authority’, which, in such a politically charged matter as this, is almost invariably propaganda). The reader can verify any allegation here simply by clicking onto the given link, at any point in the presentation that might seem to be questionable. .........

...interesting comparison to Canada´s situation...extraction of our dirty oils indeed is creating major climactic changes, due I believe to the massive infusions of vapour into the atmosphere, and all non profitable?

I think one very common flaw of many communist comnand economies is that they ignore the economic realities of supply and demand. Market based economies, socialist or otherwise, are much less likely to do so.

NDPP

You might wish to check out the current state of being poor in your own country. Check out the shelter systems in Toronto, Vancouver or Winnipeg - or count the homeless on the streets or the lack of affordable housing, especially on the starvation supports 'welfare' provides, before you start preaching about the evils of 'Communism' in Venezuela. Funny how some Canadian 'progressives' will only direct their eyes at the msm reported problems of official enemies rather than their own backyards where it could do some good.  Canada is a hellhole for poor people and the worse it gets the greater the denial by those who have enough but would rather pretend they care about Venezuelans to advance their redneck reactionary views. This is an American regime-change operation in progress, complete with an accompanying smear and disinformation campaign. It has nothing to do with humanitarian concerns. How many of these Yanqui take-downs do you have to see before you fucking get it?

https://twitter.com/Presstvuk/status/1094587051599675398

"Press TV correspondent Ahmed Kaballo is in Caracas Venezuela and he explains what he saw on his first day and how it is completely different from the picture painted in the Western mainstream press."

NDPP

Israel's MP Michael Levitt pays not a whit of attention to the outrageous conditions of Palestians being shot and starved in the Zionist entity's Gaza concentration camp but peddles bullshit and faux concern for Venezuelans. 

https://twitter.com/LevittMichael/status/1093560421238202368

WWWTT

Paladin1 wrote:

WWWTT wrote:

God forbid Canadians start warming up to and accepting communism!

 

Which communist country would you say is the best role model for Canadians warming up to communism. North Korea, China, Cuba, Vietnam or Laos?

Thanks for engaging and seeking to expand!

Communism is only just an alternative to government corporate imperialist control. 

The term communism, through icm, has become synonymous with evil. This is called “demonization”

From your comment, I can read that you are under the icm control. You are one of the Canadians that has much to freed from. 

Accepting the right of anti corporate control belief is something that neo liberalism won’t accept. Hence the war on Maduro. 

iyraste1313

I think one very common flaw of many communist comnand economies is that they ignore the economic realities of supply and demand.....as do the capitalist economies, which is based on the supply and demand of paper finance, not the real world....

But you have a point, which must be considered in the development of a real socialist economy based on the control by social organization, hopefully decentralized autonomous control, whereby individual, family and local cooperative initiative is encouraged.

I suggest you consider Muammar Ghaddafi´s Green theory of socialism....

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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From your comment, I can read that you are under the icm control. You are one of the Canadians that has much to freed from.

Is "icm" something you made up and hope catches on?  It doesn't appear to be a common abbreviation, unless you're repeatedly referring to the International Confederation of Midwives.

bekayne

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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From your comment, I can read that you are under the icm control. You are one of the Canadians that has much to freed from.

Is "icm" something you made up and hope catches on?  It doesn't appear to be a common abbreviation, unless you're repeatedly referring to the International Confederation of Midwives.

Could be these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Citizens_Movement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Center_of_Murfreesboro

Mobo2000

I'm guessing International Capitalist Media.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Mobo2000 wrote:

I'm guessing International Capitalist Media.

If that is the case I like it. MSM does not cover the breadth of the international media that promotes the neo-con agenda.

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

Venezuela: Coup d’Etat or Constitutional Transition?

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Guaido claims that his new self-ascribed job title is fully in keeping with Article 233 of Venezuela’s 1999 constitution. But is this the case?

An open and shut case

Article 233 of the Constitution of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela specifies that an “absolute vacuum of power” occurs in the following circumstances: the president’s death, resignation, impeachment by the Supreme Court, “permanent physical or mental incapacity” certified by a medical expert designated by the Supreme Court and approved by the National Assembly, “abandonment of post” declared by the National Assembly, or recall by popular referendum.

Guaido’s claim to the presidency rests on the second to last of these conditions, namely the argument that Nicolas Maduro has failed to fulfill his constitutional responsibilities, thereby abandoning his post. Article 236 outlines in detail the duties of the president, which include everything from conducting international relations and leading the armed forces to granting pardons and convoking referenda.

The opposition may not like Maduro for a variety of reasons, but a cursory glance at the head of state’s Twitter feed will reveal that he has hardly abandoned his presidential functions. That is, he has not holed himself up in Miraflores presidential palace playing Call of Duty in lieu of showing up for work.

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Was Maduro legitimately elected?

Constitutional exegesis aside, the crux of the opposition’s argument is that Nicolas Maduro’s May 20, 2018 reelection was mired in “fraud” and hence his swearing-in “illegitimate,” creating a power vacuum.

This contention has been taken up by the mainstream media as an article of faith and repeated ad nauseam.

For corporate journalists, it doesn’t appear to matter that Maduro was re-elected with 6.2 million votes, amounting to around 31 percent of eligible voters, which, as Joe Emersberger notes, is average among US presidents. For instance, Barack Obama received 31 percent in 2008 and 28 percent in 2012, while Trump was elected with just 26 percent in 2016, failing to win the popular vote.

Indeed, the fact that Maduro was re-elected cleanly, as verified by reports from four different in independent international monitoring missions, is non-consequential, given that Washington preemptively refused to recognize the results of the election more than 90 days ahead of time in support of the main opposition parties’ boycott.

But the US did not stop there. The Trump administration went as far as to threaten to sanction opposition candidate Henri Falcon for daring to defy the boycott, while the major anti-government parties sabotaged his candidacy by actively urging abstention and falsely suggesting that the former governor was in league with Maduro. Somehow this egregious interference in another sovereign country’s electoral process was completely ignored by a Western media lobotomized by Russia-gate hysteria.

All this is quite ironic in light of the fact that the right-wing opposition took to the streets in deadly protests in 2017 demanding early presidential elections with full backing from Washington.

However, after elections were brought forward to April 2018 in the context of internationally-mediated negotiations in the Dominican Republic, the opposition turned around and reportedly rejected a preliminary agreement reached with the government, abandoning further talks. A subsequent deal to push elections back to May 20 brought a faction of the opposition led by Falcon on board, to the fury of hardline parties close to Florida Senator Marco Rubio, who issued repeated calls for a military coup alongside other top US officials.

There is little doubt that had the opposition united behind Falcon, he would have stood a very good chance of beating Maduro, whose popularity has plummeted amid the severe economic crisis that has gripped the country for four years. Why then did the US and its local clients opt for a boycott?

WWWTT

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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From your comment, I can read that you are under the icm control. You are one of the Canadians that has much to freed from.

Is "icm" something you made up and hope catches on?  It doesn't appear to be a common abbreviation, unless you're repeatedly referring to the International Confederation of Midwives.

No it’s an abbreviation I use so as to type less. Same reason why pretty much everyone else uses abbreviations.  

https://blackagendareport.com/imperialism_media_circus

You want popular? Here’s popular 

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/ICM

I don’t do popular. 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

I'll just read it as "Inspirational Country Music".

bekayne

Mr. Magoo wrote:

I'll just read it as "Inspirational Country Music".

That works as well.

bekayne

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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They had a fair election according to Canadians I trust to be unbiased

Are you referring to Common Frontiers?  Even a cursory look at some of the articles they published prior to the election suggests they might just have the eensiest bias toward Maduro.  If anyone would like to take a look at some, there's plenty there to see.

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Venezuelan law stipulates that a political party is liable to have its legal status revoked should it fail to participate in two consecutive electoral processes (art 27c), and that it may be subject to a process of renovation by the CNE which includes collecting a sample list of its members’ signatures (art 26).

Yes, of course.  The Constituent National Assembly (i.e. Friends of Maduro) wrote that new law just as soon as they were done declaring their absolute authority over everything, including the Constitution.

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On 8 August 2017, the Constituent Assembly declared itself to be the government branch with supreme power in Venezuela, banning the opposition-led National Assembly from performing actions that would interfere with the assembly while continuing to pass measures in "support and solidarity" with President Maduro. On 18 August 2017, the Assembly gave itself the power to pass legislation and override the National Assembly on issues concerning “preservation of peace, security, sovereignty, the socio-economic and financial system” and then stripped the National Assembly of its legislative powers the following day.

I'm sure we would all agree that any party that doesn't take part in municipal elections for Mayor certainly cannot be allowed to run for President.  That only makes sense, and it's a surprise that Canada hasn't thought to include such a rule in our own Elections Act.

 

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Magoo our resident apologist for each and every coup and invasion of the evil empire. Nary one has been without merit in his eyes. I know, I know if only rulers of countries with significant oil reserves treated their people better they would be left alone, like Saudi Arabia for example.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

Ya, I criticize Maduro's government, so it's obvious that I must support a coup, right?

On the bright side it saves you having to wonder "whose side I'm on".

NDPP

TRNN: Elliott Abrams: The War Criminal Running US Policy in Venezuela

https://youtu.be/O_KFCXCccjM

 US Special Envoy on Venezuela, [Zionist] Elliott Abrams is back in the halls of power...

JKR

NDPP wrote:

You might wish to check out the current state of being poor in your own country. Check out the shelter systems in Toronto, Vancouver or Winnipeg - or count the homeless on the streets or the lack of affordable housing, especially on the starvation supports 'welfare' provides, before you start preaching about the evils of 'Communism' in Venezuela.

I agree that the level of poverty is too high in Canada but it seems to me that Canada’s rate of poverty is much lower than Venezuela’s. I wish our poverty rates in Canada were closer to that of social-democratic countries such as Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Norway, the Netherlands, Germany, Austria, etc....

JKR

iyraste1313 wrote:

But you have a point, which must be considered in the development of a real socialist economy based on the control by social organization, hopefully decentralized autonomous control, whereby individual, family and local cooperative initiative is encouraged.

I think decentralized competitive decision making is required in order to have a healthy economy and this is an area where socialist systems have often failed. I think the decentralized competitive economic systems of social democratic countries like Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Germany, and, Austria have been able to successfully combine socialism with decentralization and constructive competition and this has led to prosperity and low poverty.

NDPP

Venezuela: A Diplomatic Coup?

https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/14317

"Conspicuously absent are any of the tell-tale signs of a genuine power-shift that might indicate that the government is about to fall. Guadio's international backing is his greatest tool..."

NDPP

"The Economic Debates Unit of the Latin American Geopolitical Strategic Center concludes that US sanctions are the main factor in Venezuela's economic crisis and estimate that these crippling sanctions cost Venezuela about US $350 billion..."

https://twitter.com/dimitrilascaris/status/1095082164528529413

Mobo2000

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/02/12/theres-something-eerily-familiar...

"Just as those who opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq were “pro-Saddam”, or those who thought the west might pause before it supported the increasingly violent opposition in Syria were labelled “pro-Assad”.

And those who defended Yasser Arafat – over a long period a super-terrorist, a super-diplomat and then a super-terrorist again – against those who would oust him as leader of the Palestinians, were abused as “pro-Arafat”, “pro-Palestinian”, “pro-terrorist” and, inevitably, “anti-Semitic”. I recall how George W Bush warned us after 9/11, that “you are either with us or against us”. The same threat was made to us about Assad.

Erdogan has used it in Turkey (less than three years ago) and it was a common line in the forgotten 1930s used by none other than Mussolini. And now I quote Trump’s US secretary of state Michael Pompeo on Maduro: “Now it is time for every other nation to pick a side … either you stand with the forces of freedom, or you’re in league with Maduro and his mayhem.”

You get the point. Now is the time for all good people to stand alongside the United States, the EU, the nations of Latin America – or do you support the Russkies, Chinese, Iranian headbangers, the perfidious Corbyn and (of all people) the Greeks?"

iyraste1313

Vancouver BC
January 31, 2019

Hello CBC Vancouver,

I was disappointed to turn on my radio this morning and have to endure an interview by your program host Stephen Quinn with a U.S. ideologue advocating a right-wing coup in Venezuela. It was doubly disappointing to hear your host playing right along, apparently quite comfortable with the idea that the U.S. and Canada have the right to overthrow by violence an elected president and constitutional assembly in that country. Oh yes, there is the ‘inconvenient fact’ that Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro is an elected president. Your host made no mention of this fact, instead referring to the elected government of Venezuela as a ‘regime’.

Sadly, it is not surprising to hear the CBC fomenting coups in foreign lands. We have seen this act before: Canada helped orchestrate the coup in Haiti in 2004 and went on to back coups in  Honduras in 2009, Libya in 2011, Egypt in 2013 and Ukraine in 2014. It backed France’s invasion of Mali in January 2013 following the military coup there nine months earlier. Syria, meanwhile, has suffered a brutal ‘regime change’ war since 2011-12 with humanitarian consequences that are all too familiar, but CBC has told us all along that this is all the fault of the ‘Assad regime’ in that country. The NATO powers and their Middle East allies that are intervening in Syria, including by arming and financing right-wing jihadist militias, are given the hero’s treatment by CBCreporters and analysts.

For almost 20 years, the government of Venezuela has been leading a societal transition that has delivered social justice and reduced poverty to the Venezuelan people. It has also delivered crucial aid and assistance to peoples elsewhere in the hemisphere, including to Bolivia, Cuba and Haiti. The government and its president deserve much praise for this. Instead, they have endured nothing but hostility, threats and sanctions from their two imperial neighbours to the north–Canada and the U.S.–and from European governments. It is my firm hope that advocates of democracy and sovereignty in Venezuela will hold more protests in the coming days and weeks against the coup-fomenting policies of the Trudeau regime in Ottawa and against any outlets in mainstream media serving as that regime’s echo chambers.

Roger Annis

...There will never be democracy in Canada as long as the CBC maintains its right to brainwash.

It is a violation of their mandate, a violation of the mandate of the CRTC, a violation of our Section 3 Democratic rights

(Figueroa v. Queen, e.g.) and a violation of our international obligations as mandated by the Supreme Court of Canada.

There is no rule of law in Canada, therefore no justice, just rights of the powerful...but who cares, right? Who even is aware?

NDPP

re above: Good letter. Correct comment.

Protests in Haiti, Protests in Venezuela

https://youtu.be/RrHyz-vZfJ0

"US foreign policy is filled with hypocrisy..."

Paladin1

WWWTT wrote:

Thanks for engaging and seeking to expand!

Always a pleasure!

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The term communism, through icm, has become synonymous with evil. This is called “demonization”

From your comment, I can read that you are under the icm control. You are one of the Canadians that has much to freed from.

Naturally growing up, like many westerners, I fell victim to the USA's "communisim is evil" mantra.  A little wiser now, I can see and understand what the USA did. However I don't believe they were necessarily wrong about communisim.

Looking at the two major countries North Korea and China - we could fill a thread with various forms of evil found in those countries and their governments.  I sure wouldn't want to live there.

When I think of people suggesting how great communisim really is (in general of course, not sure your views on it) it reminds me of people wearing Che Guevara shirts.

 

As for myself being under ICM control? I don't believe I am.

Red Winnipeg

A lovely image of a grocery store in Venezuela:

 

Viva la Revolución!!

NDPP

Thanks for NYT pic. Red Winnipeg. See also #359, #363 #383

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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You get the point. Now is the time for all good people to stand alongside the United States, the EU, the nations of Latin America – or do you support the Russkies, Chinese, Iranian headbangers, the perfidious Corbyn and (of all people) the Greeks?"

That's how the "whose side are you on" thing works in the Washington Post or Fox News.  On the left it's more like "or do you support Trump and Bolsonaro and the ghost of Ronald Reagan?".

It's the same trick either way, though -- make a situation completely black-and-white, then draw up teams.

cco

The problem here is that the real issue on the table is whether to back Trump and Bolsonaro invading Venezuela ("at the request of legitimate president Juan Guaido, to restore democracy", they'll say) or not. That's a reasonably black-and-white question. All of this debate over electoral legitimacy and the exact state of the "humanitarian crisis" in Venezuela is just foreplay.

Unionist

cco wrote:
The problem here is that the real issue on the table is whether to back Trump and Bolsonaro invading Venezuela ("at the request of legitimate president Juan Guaido, to restore democracy", they'll say) or not. That's a reasonably black-and-white question.

That's not the only real issue. Here's another issue:

The granddaughter of a prominent Nazi propagandist announced sanctions against Venezuela in September 2017. Further sanctions were imposed in May 2018. My question is: Has any Canadian political party represented in Parliament called for the end of those sanctions?

No rush on answering that question.

 

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Excellent letter, iyraste1313.

That photo in #388 looks like fake news to me. If anything its a farm outbuilding or a gardening shop at best. Like most places in the world, supermarkets have finished floors, walls and ceilings. See image below.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture
NDPP

Hands Off 'Our Hemisphere' Or Venezuela Pays the Price: US Senator Warns Russia

https://on.rt.com/9oaf

"Senate Armed Services Committee chair Jim Inhofe said Washington might have to intervene in Venezuela if Russia dares set up a military base not just there but 'in our hemisphere.' Russia has not, however, promised military aid to Maduro and Russian diplomat Alexander Shchetinin said on Monday that Venezuela has not requested military aid from Moscow. Russian FM Sergei Lavrov warned the US against military intervention on Tuesday."

"Venezuela is in our neighbourhood, Canada's global backyard" - Chrystia Freeland

josh

Representative Omar takes on admitted perjurer and death squad fan Abrams.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/429854-omar-clashes-with-trump-envoy-elliot-abrams-in-fiery-exchange

NDPP

Watch Working Class Venezuelans Explain For Themselves Why They Oppose A US-Backed Coup

https://twitter.com/TheCanaryUK/status/1095657589705187328

"Don't come here, Trump!"

NDPP

Canada vs Venezuela: The Murky Background   -   by Joyce Nelson

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/02/13/canada-vs-venezuela-the-murky-ba...

"...Is there some connection between these two international situations - Canada's role in Venezuela and Canada's role in the Chinese imbroglio? As it turns out, the answer is yes, and the International Crisis Group (ICG) is an important player in that connnection. No doubt, the International Crisis Group's Big Oil donors - Chevron, Shell, BP - are pleased with the way things are unfolding..."

NDPP

Neoliberalism or Death: The US Economic War Against Venezuela (and podcast)

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/13/neoliberalism-or-death-the-u-s-econo...

"The US is weaponizing humanitarian aid in an effort to sell its regime change campaign against Venezuela..."

Excellent overview with Venezuelan vice FM Carlos Ron & Former UN Rapporteur Alfred de Zayas.

iyraste1313

voltairenet.org/en

 Meyssan's latest analysis on the coming wars of destabilization in the Caribean Basin

iyraste1313

voltairenet.org/en

 Meyssan's latest analysis on the coming wars of destabilization in the Caribean Basin

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