Alberta Election Tuesday April 16 2019

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voice of the damned

nicky wrote:

You’re right VOD.

it’s just a promise when you sign up.

that said, principals of Mainstreet often tweet suggestively about their upcoming results. I have shared the info in those tweets but do not feel free to pass on the actual numbers.

Oh, I don't blame you one bit for not sharing the numbers. Even if the enforcement mechanisms are weak, you did agree to the contract when you signed up, and it's always the best policy to follow the legal requirements.

nicky

I think I can tell you that the numbers are encouraging 

voice of the damned

voice of the damned wrote:

I don't think that Cardston dog is gonna hunt...

This one in Calgary, on the other hand...

Calgary UCP candidate quits, blames threat of ‘smear’ campaign

Not much of a smear, to just point out things that someone has already posted under her own name.

She's not entirely off-base about the persecution of Christians in Iraq, but then, which gang of right-wingers supported the war that turned the fundies loose? And "Rapefugees" requires no comment.

https://tinyurl.com/y2boupot

 

 

 

 

 

bekayne

Ladies and gentlemen, Jason Kenney's Finance Critic. Math is difficult (grammer, as well).

voice of the damned

I'm pretty sure that when I was in junior high in the 1980s, under the PCs, 40% was also considered a pass. Or maybe 45%. The issue was largely immaterial to me, however, given that I routinely pulled in test results hovering around 10%(sic), buit managed to get upped to the next grade each time anyway.

(How I manged to attend and graduate from university is a long story.)

voice of the damned

Oh, and...

"passing great"

In fairness, we all make mistakes, and since typing became my main medium of writing, I've had a tendency to write the wrong words, especially in cases of homonyms(eg. doe vs. dough). But when your post is criticizing OTHER peoples' educational standards...

 

NorthReport

Why being boring could work for Rachel Notley

Jason Markusoff’s Alberta politics insider for March 26: The NDP’s childcare pitch, Kenney’s rollback on gay-straight alliances, and more

 

https://www.macleans.ca/politics/why-being-boring-could-work-for-rachel-notley/

NorthReport

'Left with fines, charges and shame': Calgary political insider alleges voter fraud in UCP leadership campaign

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-election-commissioner-findings-hardyal-mann-irregular-political-contributions-voter-fraud-1.5066753

Badriya

voice of the damned wrote:

I'm pretty sure that when I was in junior high in the 1980s, under the PCs, 40% was also considered a pass. Or maybe 45%. The issue was largely immaterial to me, however, given that I routinely pulled in test results hovering around 10%(sic), buit managed to get upped to the next grade each time anyway.

(How I manged to attend and graduate from university is a long story.)

But Voice, I'm sure you're not a finance critic.  I know conservatives are pretty creative with numbers, and having 42 + 68 = 100 is just another example.  

I just edited my typo.  

NorthReport

If Rachel Notley can’t win Alberta’s ‘905,’ the NDP loses Alberta

Jason Markusoff’s Alberta insider for March 27: Uniting Albertans against a Torontonian, Kenney vs. the ‘modern world’ on LGBTQ rights, and more

https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/if-rachel-notley-cant-win-albertas-905-the-ndp-loses-alberta/

bekayne

Badriya wrote:

But Voice, I'm sure you're not a finance critic.  I know conservatives are pretty creative with numbers, and having 42 + 68 + 100 is just another example.  

Ken Burch

bekayne wrote:

Badriya wrote:

But Voice, I'm sure you're not a finance critic.  I know conservatives are pretty creative with numbers, and having 42 + 68 + 100 is just another example.  

Well, they did get 40% passing grades in math when they were kids.

NorthReport

Enbridge’s embattled Line 3 pipeline gets green light from Minnesota

Decision clears a hurdle for the pipeline and is welcome news for Canadian producers struggling to get their oil to market

https://business.financialpost.com/commodities/energy/enbridges-oil-pipeline-gets-final-ok-from-minnesota-regulators

NorthReport

And the Canadian Court of Appeal should be handing down their decision on the AB-BC pipeline any day now I presume.

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If re-elected Rachel Notley said the NDP will expand its $25-a-day daycare program to all available spaces in the province

https://globalnews.ca/video/5095579/rachel-notley-unveils-ndps-largest-campaign-promise

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Resident vows to volunteer for NDP in protest after signs defaced with swastikas and profanity

https://www.thestar.com/edmonton/2019/03/27/edmonton-ndp-election-signs-defaced-with-swastikas-and-profanity.html

voice of the damned

Badriya wrote:

voice of the damned wrote:

I'm pretty sure that when I was in junior high in the 1980s, under the PCs, 40% was also considered a pass. Or maybe 45%. The issue was largely immaterial to me, however, given that I routinely pulled in test results hovering around 10%(sic), buit managed to get upped to the next grade each time anyway.

(How I manged to attend and graduate from university is a long story.)

But Voice, I'm sure you're not a finance critic.  I know conservatives are pretty creative with numbers, and having 42 + 68 = 100 is just another example.  

I just edited my typo.  

Well, my point there wasn't to excuse the guy's bad math, but to say that attributing the allegedly dismal standards of Alberta education to the NDP is historically wrong.

That said, as you can probably surmise, I can't do math above about a Grade 6 level, so I'm not sure how forgivable it is for a finance critic to make a low-level arithmetic error when doing quick calculations. Certainly, he would be guilty of not double-checking his work before tweeting.

As I said, I do occassionally mix up homonyms when typing, and I AM an English teacher. Not certified, but I do pride myself on being able to explain fairly complex words and phrases.

voice of the damned

As far as "gave it 110%" goes, I think that's a commonly accepted hyperbolic phraseing. I've also heard "200%" used to mean "I gave it my all". So Barnes probably knew that it doesn't match up with 90%.

NorthReport

Agreed!

If Kenney Wins, Be Ready for a BC-Alberta War

Relations between the two provinces have been bumpy before. But this election could bring the biggest escalation yet.

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2019/03/27/Kenney-Win-Expect-BC-Alberta-War/

quizzical

NorthReport wrote:

And the Canadian Court of Appeal should be handing down their decision on the AB-BC pipeline any day now I presume.

decision already made they're clearing land as we speak to store pipe arriving. 

wage zombie

If they're clearing land before the Court decision, that seems like a big problem.

NorthReport

No mater what the decision it will be appealed to the SC by the losing side, and apparently the SC rarely sides with the Appeal’s Court decisions

 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/edmontonjournal.com/business/energy/appeal-court-reserves-decision-on-b-c-pipeline-law-that-would-impact-trans-mountain/wcm/8b1fa5f9-2b65-4c0a-8c10-ef46da383872/amp

 

quizzical

wage zombie wrote:

If they're clearing land before the Court decision, that seems like a big problem.

not if it's done. 

robbie_dee

NorthReport wrote:

If Kenney Wins, Be Ready for a BC-Alberta War

ooh that would be a much closer fought one than the Alberta-Saskatchewan War.

NorthReport

 BC will get backup from their fellow Cascadians though, but I suppose Albertans could count on help from Texas

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Aristotleded24

Suspend oilsands production: Greens

Quote:
Cheryle Chagnon-Greyeyes, Leader of the Green Party of Alberta and a Candidate in the riding of Calgary – Varsity, says “recognizing that climate change is a serious threat to humanity we need to actively contribute to the solution.”

Importantly, the Green Party of Alberta supports an orderly transition from dependence on fossil fuel to reliance on renewable energy sources, including wind, solar, and geo-thermal.

The Green Party leader says we need to take collective responsibility and directly deal with the situation. “To continue promoting expansion of oil sands extraction as the NDP and UCP advocate is to fly in the face of reality, resulting in committing Alberta’s future to what is obviously a sunset industry.”

What a brave thing for her to do to tell that simple truth in Alberta.

NorthReport

The RCMP have questions for Jason Kenney’s team on voter fraud allegations

Jason Markusoff’s Alberta Politics Insider for March 28: Ghosts of the UCP leadership race, an escape route from Fort McMurray, and more

https://www.macleans.ca/politics/the-rcmp-have-questions-for-jason-kenneys-team-on-voter-fraud-allegations/

NorthReport

Fire Fighters for Alberta endorse NDP in provincial election

https://globalnews.ca/news/5108181/fire-fighters-for-alberta-endorse-ndp-provincial-election/

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wage zombie

wage zombie wrote:

If they're clearing land before the Court decision, that seems like a big problem.

quizzical wrote:

not if it's done. 

I don't understand what you mean.  Are you implying that the court has already decided, and has given the oil companies early notice, and will tell the rest of us about it later?  That would seem like a big problem to me.

quizzical

wage zombie wrote:

wage zombie wrote:

If they're clearing land before the Court decision, that seems like a big problem.

quizzical wrote:

not if it's done. 

I don't understand what you mean.  Are you implying that the court has already decided, and has given the oil companies early notice, and will tell the rest of us about it later?  That would seem like a big problem to me.

yup. looks like it.

we already know it's a stacked deck. by it i mean judicial system.

with FN negotiations to buy 51% going on ya gotta know it's a done deal already. 

NorthReport

My understanding is that the work that is presently being done is unrelated to the court decision.

voice of the damned

Heh. Jen Gerson on the UCP platform...

If one were to herd a collection of middle-aged men who spent their youth crusading on behalf of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation into a breakout room at the Manning Conference and asked them to spitball ideas for Alberta, this is pretty close to the platform they would come up with.

I somewhat disagree with Gerson's later assessment that UCP policies are similar to what brought about the end of the Tory dynasty, since as I recall, neither Redford nor Prentice were positioning themselves as particularly social conservative. Redford probably got elected by opposing SoCons, and even Prentice walked back on his "compromise" to give school-boards veto power over GSAs(is how I remember the policy, YMMV).

I think the Tory defeat was a combination of corruption(eg. Redford's Sky Palace), cynical, quasi-authoritarian maneuvering(eg. the Tories absorbing Wildrose), and general malaise with a 45 year old regime.

https://tinyurl.com/y3o9sots

 

 

NorthReport

Trump issues new permit for stalled Keystone XL pipeline

 

Order intended to speed up building of crude oil line from Western Canada to U.S. Gulf Coast

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/trump-permit-keystone-xl-pipeline-1.5077957

NorthReport

Brilliant as there is no sense waiting around for the do nothing others who just talk and talk and talk about it

NDP announces full drug coverage plan for Alberta’s seniors

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/watch-ndp-announces-full-drug-coverage-plan-for-albertas-seniors

 

nicky
jerrym

I don't agree with Notley's fossil fuel policies, but considering the alternative is Kenney and the UCP, I hope she somehow pulls it out. The Ekos poll in the last post shows the Con lead in Calgary has narrowed to 47% to 44%. The following article discusses why Calgary is so important to who wins the election. 

Draw a Venn diagram of the parts of Alberta the United Conservatives and New Democrats need to win the provincial election on April 16 and the circles will overlap in Calgary. That's because the NDP is strongest in Edmonton, while the UCP polls best in the rural areas and small cities of the province.

Jason Kenney can form a government without significant representation in the capital, while Rachel Notley can afford to lose seats outside of Alberta's cities and still keep her job. That's par for the course in Alberta's political history — you just need two out of three to win.

Since the 1944 provincial election, the party that has formed government has always won the most seats in at least two of three regions of the province (for the purposes of this analysis, the two urban regions are defined as ridings with Edmonton or Calgary in their name, with all the other seats grouped into a third category). For much of the province's history, parties didn't even need the cities in order to form a government. The Liberal, United Farmer and Social Credit governments won enough seats outside of Edmonton and Calgary to secure a majority government. Those urban seats were just gravy.

That changed in 1971, when for the first time seats in Edmonton and Calgary made up more than a quarter of ridings up for grabs. That shifted the electoral calculations parties had to make, as urban voters got a fairer share of representation in the legislature. No longer could parties count on rural seats alone to put them over the top. ...

Though the New Democrats also did well outside of the two cities' boundaries — winning 20 seats, one fewer than Wildrose — theirs was the first government to be elected in Alberta without a plurality of the seats available outside of Edmonton and Calgary.  ...

Rural seats were not part of the NDP's equation. Combined with the urban seats in Edmonton and Calgary, the suburban seats on the outskirts of the capital and the four seats in Red Deer and Lethbridge were enough to put the New Democrats over the 44-seat threshold needed for a majority government.

But Calgary was won by the skin of the NDP's teeth in 2015. It took 33 per cent of the vote in and around the city in that election, just edging out the PCs and Wildrose and winning 15 seats in the process. The polls suggest the New Democrats are on track to match or beat that popular vote score. But that won't be good enough now that their opponents are no longer divided. ...

While not every PC and Wildrose vote will be going the UCP's way, polls have indicated that the vast majority of them are currently heading in that direction. So, in order to win in Calgary — and hold on to power — Notley will need not only those who backed her four years ago, but plenty more on top of that. The New Democrats made history in 2015 with their upset victory. In 2019, even history repeating itself won't be enough.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/grenier-alberta-calgary-1.5074029

 

 

NorthReport

That EKOS poll, thanks nicky, shows that Notley's NDP is moving in the correct direction, and that the NDP has gained 9% on the UCP and narrowed the gap to just 4% which appears to be almost statistically even within the margin of error.

Date / NDP / UCP / Difference

March / 42% / 46%  / 4% 

February / 37% / 50% / 13% 

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Debate Thursday, April 4 at 5:30 PM Mountain Time

Notley is mulling it over, but why would she not attend.

Only parties elected to the legislature under their current party banner were invited to participate. 

 

voice of the damned

NorthReport wrote:

Debate Thursday, April 4 at 5:30 PM Mountain Time

Notley is mulling it over, but why would she not attend.

Only parties elected to the legislature under their current party banner were invited to participate. 

Unless she's politically suicidal, there is no way she will skip the debates. But political-scientist Duane Bratt's comments may provide some illumination here...

"It is clear that the UCP did not want Fildebrandt in the debate and it is also clear that the NDP wanted Fildebrandt in the debate," Bratt says. "They put out a statement yesterday, the NDP did, saying, ‘We want all parties that are represented in the legislature to participate in the leaders’ debate.’ That’s the argument that they’re using. It sounds like they’re all about fairness but really, they want Fildebrandt on the stage to be able to attack Jason Kenney."

Possibly, the NDP is bluffing in the hope that the consortium will agree to put Fildebrandt on the stage as an inducement to Notley? This is a theory I've heard elsewhere, though admittedly not from anyone I'd consider more of an expert commentator than myself.

https://tinyurl.com/y4vhbjzd

 

 

 

NorthReport

Here we go again it seems. Rigging debates to support right-wing political parties needs to be stopped firmly in its tracks.

Barricading democracy: Election fraud through debate rigging

Only by casting light on such narratives of repression can we fully apprehend the larger implications of Harper’s crimes against democracy. This crime spree now extends to fixing elections in Canada through the rigging of public debate.

https://commonground.ca/barricading-democracy-election-fraud-through-debate-rigging/

 

WWWTT

NorthReport wrote:

Debate Thursday, April 4 at 5:30 PM Mountain Time

Notley is mulling it over, but why would she not attend.

Only parties elected to the legislature under their current party banner were invited to participate. 

 

do you have a link that Notley is doubtful of her participation in the debates?

I find it surprising that she would consider not attending! Perhaps I’m miss reading? I would expect her to be training and focusing on this coming debate to build her confidence as the heavy weight capable of landing flurries of knock out punches in a political debate!

voice of the damned

WWWTT wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

Debate Thursday, April 4 at 5:30 PM Mountain Time

Notley is mulling it over, but why would she not attend.

Only parties elected to the legislature under their current party banner were invited to participate. 

 

do you have a link that Notley is doubtful of her participation in the debates?

I find it surprising that she would consider not attending! Perhaps I’m miss reading? I would expect her to be training and focusing on this coming debate to build her confidence as the heavy weight capable of landing flurries of knock out punches in a political debate!

As far as I can tell, no one has credibly stated that she's unsure about attending, they've just reported the fact that, unlike the other invited leaders, she hasn't yet confirmed her attendance, and speculating(as I've done here) about the reasons.

Like I say, it would be lunatic not to attend, especially given that she's performed fairly well in debates before, eg. not-missing-a-beat response to "math is hard".

quizzical

today Ontario's C3s are in Edmonton being dicks at the Legislature. 

Ford must've thought they would help Kenney.

 

WWWTT

VOTD wrote

Like I say, it would be lunatic not to attend, especially given that she's performed fairly well in debates before, eg. not-missing-a-beat response to "math is hard".

Notley May be playing mind games here to throw Kenney off balance? I’d do the same thing here in her position   

 

 

voice of the damned

quizzical wrote:

today Ontario's C3s are in Edmonton being dicks at the Legislature. 

Ford must've thought they would help Kenney.

Who are the C3s? And do you have an article about this? I can't find anything on the usual news sites about perfidious Ontarians infesting the august halls of the legislature.  

 

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