Canada federal election October 21, 2019 part 2

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Martin N.

Pondering wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

I thought it was just in BC where the Liberals are tanking, but it appears the Liberals are going to get steamrolled everywhere, on their way to a crushing defeat in October. 

Tomorrow morning I’m posting some news I can’t wait to share.

Liberals beware!

https://twitter.com/Tom_Parkin_/status/1124482771471278082

You seem over-joyed to welcome PM Scheer if things don't change before October (and they will). 

Yes, they will change as the empty suit you embrace becomes increasingly desperate and the Librano party becomes even more desperate with him. The risk of losing access to the trough makes Libranos very dangerous.

Trudeau has dispelled all the elusions, illusions or both carefully crafted about him. The scripted talking points painfully memorised. If only the Kokanee Grope victim has the courage to stand and deliver, the empty suit will morph into the emperor with no clothes.

NDPP

Ironic that this most abject American lackey should practice how to appear otherwise. Even more so that some apparently bought it.

NorthReport

It must be election time.

Liberals plan increase to Canada child benefit

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/liberals-plan-increase-to-canada-child-benefit-1.4409019

JKR

How dare the Liberals reduce poverty!

Pondering

Martin N. wrote:

Pondering wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

I thought it was just in BC where the Liberals are tanking, but it appears the Liberals are going to get steamrolled everywhere, on their way to a crushing defeat in October. 

Tomorrow morning I’m posting some news I can’t wait to share.

Liberals beware!

https://twitter.com/Tom_Parkin_/status/1124482771471278082

You seem over-joyed to welcome PM Scheer if things don't change before October (and they will). 

Yes, they will change as the empty suit you embrace becomes increasingly desperate and the Librano party becomes even more desperate with him. The risk of losing access to the trough makes Libranos very dangerous.

Trudeau has dispelled all the elusions, illusions or both carefully crafted about him. The scripted talking points painfully memorised. If only the Kokanee Grope victim has the courage to stand and deliver, the empty suit will morph into the emperor with no clothes.

Don't be rude. I'm not embracing anyone. Not even Jagmeet Singh. We have three prospective leaders. Scheer, who would reduce taxes then services, who feeds racism and is in bed with corporations. Trudeau, also in bed with corporations but who does less damage to government and does improve the lives of some Canadians. Lastly we have Jagmeet Singh who would probably be the best PM we have had in recent times but who is extremely unlikely to win the election. 

That is what faces Canadians in October. 

NorthReport
NorthReport
WWWTT

JKR wrote:

How dare the Liberals reduce poverty!

Ya that’s open for debate hey?

You could also say “how dare the liberals try to reduce poverty during an election year” as implied by North Report. 

JKR

WWWTT wrote:

JKR wrote:

How dare the Liberals reduce poverty!

Ya that’s open for debate hey?

You could also say “how dare the liberals try to reduce poverty during an election year” as implied by North Report. 

Doing good things during an election year is hitting below the belt?!?!?

WWWTT

Hey don’t get me wrong, I’ve got 3 kids aged 5 and 3(twins). My wife can use the bigger support payments 

NDPP

'My Vision For Canada': The Andrew Scheer Keynotes

https://www.myvisionforcanada.ca

False front on vacant lot.

NorthReport
NorthReport

The hits just keep coming and coming for the Liberals, now almost a daily occurence of bad news for Team Trudeau. 

Grassy Narrows protester interrupts Trudeau at Toronto Liberal event

https://www.nationalnewswatch.com/2019/05/09/grassy-narrows-protester-interrupts-trudeau-at-toronto-liberal-event-2/#.XNYTHtNKhp9

 

NorthReport

Another hour, another Liberal problem it seems. This time in BC!

After Greens slaughter Liberals in by-election, Pamela Goldsmith-Jones announces she won't seek reelection

 

In the Nanaimo-Ladysmith by-election, Liberal candidate Michelle Corfield only attracted 11 percent of the votes, compared to 37.3 percent for Manly.

In 2015, Liberal candidate Tim Tessier received 23.5 percent, coming in second, whereas Manly was back in fourth place with 19.8 percent.

This suggests that many former Liberal voters in Nanaimo-Ladysmith supported the Greens in the by-election.

In her message to constituents, Goldsmith-Jones made no mention of the rising strength of the Greens nor the Liberal government's controversial purchase of the Trans Mountain pipeline system for $4.5 billion.

https://www.straight.com/news/1238351/after-greens-slaughter-liberals-election-pamela-goldsmith-jones-announces-she-wont-seek

NorthReport

Wow.

Ben Chin, didn't he work for Christy Clark?

Trudeau hires senior advisor Ben Chin, filling a gap left by SNC-Lavalin scandal

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2019/05/14/ben-chin-moving-to-prime-ministers-office.html

NorthReport

More possible SNC and Bombardier issues.

Council expected to vote on NPA politician's call for review of city's relationship with Bombardier and SNC-Lavalin

https://www.straight.com/news/1240101/council-expected-vote-npa-politicians-call-review-citys-relationship-bombardier-and-snc

NorthReport
Pondering

As long as Conservatives don't get a majority this election will be good.

1st choice is Singh for PM but failing that the next best thing is a Liberal minority with the NDP holding the balance of power. The only way for that to happen is for Liberal numbers to drop. 

NorthReport

Is the Labour Movement going to abandon the Liberals federally like a lot of them did to the Liberals provincially in Ontario's last election?

Public Service Alliance blames Liberals for bargaining impasse

http://www.rabble.ca/news/2019/05/public-service-alliance-blames-liberals-bargaining-impasse#at_pco=smlrebv-1.0&at_si=5cdf3d2ce5c867d0&at_ab=per-2&at_pos=0&at_tot=5

NDPP

They can always blame it on the Russians...

Canada's Government Uses Bogus 'Foreign Interference' Claim to Expand Censorship Ahead of Federal Election

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/17/cens-m17.html

"...Our judgment is that intereference in the federal election is very likely." - Chrystia Freeland

Which paranoid Russophobic Canadian political party [they all are] would the evil Russians back? Or are the Liberals already planning crooked Hillary's strategy if they lose? No shortage of dupes here to believe such concoctions that's for sure....

WWWTT

Logic would dictate that if Russia interferes with a Canadian election, it would be to support a pro Russian Canadian political party. And since there are none (at least none I know of let alone one with any chance that may exist). This would pretty much easily prove that Freeland is full of shit. 

NorthReport

I suppose the G5 extradiction thingy helped, eh!

End of steel tariffs is good news for Canadians — especially Justin Trudeau

The Liberals feared production cuts, job losses and even plant closures just months before a general election. The end of hostilities should preclude that prospect

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/john-ivison-end-of-steel-tariffs-is-good-news-for-canadians-especially-justin-trudeau

NorthReport

More good news for the Liberals here

'Full steam ahead' on trade deal now that tariffs are lifted, Freeland says

Foreign affairs minister credits U.S. Senator Grassley with the breakthrough moment

http://www.rabble.ca/babble/international-news-and-politics/trade-wars-and-deals?page=3#new

NDPP

First Nations and the Federal Elections: An Exercise in Self-Termination

https://twitter.com/RussDiabo/status/1130135763369254912

"Don't try to drag me into any of the federal parties electioneering!"

NorthReport
josh

Andrew Scheer's Conservative Party is struggling to make inroads in Ontario, the battleground province that's likely to decide October's federal election. He might have Ontario Premier Doug Ford to thank for that.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-scheer-ford-1.5152794?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar

jerrym

The increasing likelihood of a minority government in the October election reflects a worldwide trend. 

Canadians can't seem to make up their minds lately, with more minority governments in power across the country than ever before — and another one potentially on its way in October's federal election.

It's partly the result of people moving away from their traditional voting patterns and being increasingly open to new options. It's a trend more than a few candidates are counting on this fall.

Establishment parties are struggling around the globe. In recent elections to the European Parliament — the largest democratic exercise in the world after India's elections — the two groupings of parties that always have held sway lost their combined majority for the first time.

That anti-establishment vote splintered in different directions. Far-right populists, Greens and pro-EU liberals all made gains at the expense of the centre-right European People's Party and the centre-left Socialists & Democrats. ...

That makes four minority governments across the country, more than have ever existed in Canada's provinces at the same time. It surpasses the record of three minority provincial governments that was met just three times in the past: in 1920-22, 1943-45 and 1971-72.

Judging by national polls, Canadians appear prepared to prevent any party from securing a majority government in October's federal election as well.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-minority-governments-1.5157390

Aristotleded24

jerrym wrote:
The increasing likelihood of a minority government in the October election reflects a worldwide trend.

Sorry, I don't see a minority government happening at all. The NDP is very weak and will be lucky to hold onto the seats it has. Half the seats that are in contentions for the Greens will come from the NDP, which will not in any way change the balance of power between the 2 big parties. It's shaping up to be a polarized election, where people want to vote Liberal to stop Scheer or Conservative to stop Trudeau. Further to that, the business community supports both major parties. With the third parties in a very weak state, I think the business community will wait for the right moment to see whether the Liberals or Conservatives are doing better, and will ride that horse across the finish line.

If Trudeau doesn't win a majority this fall, Scheer will. There simply is no reason to think that a minority is viable.

JKR

Aristotleded24 wrote:

jerrym wrote:
The increasing likelihood of a minority government in the October election reflects a worldwide trend.

Sorry, I don't see a minority government happening at all. The NDP is very weak and will be lucky to hold onto the seats it has. Half the seats that are in contentions for the Greens will come from the NDP, which will not in any way change the balance of power between the 2 big parties. It's shaping up to be a polarized election, where people want to vote Liberal to stop Scheer or Conservative to stop Trudeau. Further to that, the business community supports both major parties. With the third parties in a very weak state, I think the business community will wait for the right moment to see whether the Liberals or Conservatives are doing better, and will ride that horse across the finish line.

If Trudeau doesn't win a majority this fall, Scheer will. There simply is no reason to think that a minority is viable.

With the NDP, Greens, and BQ all running just below 15%, it looks like the upcoming FPTP election could produce a huge amount of wasted votes!

Pondering

Another excuse for an article. Current numbers are meaningless in terms of predicting the outcome of the election in October. 

Most of the MSM supports the Conservatives. Didn't the National Post and Globe etc. all endorse Harper in 2015? Do they look like they are propping Trudeau? Trudeau is second best and portrayed as part of the left (rolling my eyes) which functions as a means of trying to portray the NDP as the farther left. If I were to position them I would call the current Conservatives right wing, the Liberals centre-right, and the NDP centre left. 

NorthReport

Don’t hold your breathe for a federal ports police comeback 

 

https://thebreaker.news/news/science-world-summit/

 

NorthReport
NorthReport
Pondering

He is just the messenger. It was destroyed in 1989, 30 years ago. 

NorthReport
NDPP

Jews Sue To Stop Canada's Election From Falling On A [Jewish] Holiday

https://forward.com/fast-forward/425913/canada-s-federal-election-falls-...

"A Jewish candidate in Canada's federal election and a Jewish voter have filed a lawsuit asking to change the voting day because it falls on a Jewish holiday..."

NorthReport

Pipeline announcement tomorrow?

pietro_bcc

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/john-ivison-ndp-offer-a-new-deal-for-fa...

The fact that the mainstream media is now calling the NDP's policies "fiscal insanity" tells me that they're heading in the right direction. The media is not the NDP's friend, whenever the media is happy with the direction of the NDP's platform and pumping them up, its time to worry. Singh is going in the right direction and can still turn this around into an improvement on 2015... in fact I think they will.

R.E.Wood

Some fairly good coverage of the NDP's platform release from Aaron Wherry at CBC, while noting -- as many have -- "What the NDP platform lacked on Sunday was anything that looked like a full costing." It will be interesting to see what that full costing looks like when it does get released.

This isn't Thomas Mulcair's NDP anymore

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jagmeet-singh-ndp-platform-analysis-whe...

 

R.E.Wood

And the news from Burnaby points out:

Jagmeet Singh had his big day spoiled by his ugliest poll yet 

https://www.burnabynow.com/opinion/blogs/jagmeet-singh-had-his-big-day-s...

NDPP

Site That Advertised Lie About NDP's Singh A Client of Israeli Ad Firm

http://thetyee.ca/News/2019/06/18/Jagmeet-Singh-Advertised-Lie-Israeli-F...

"Israeli publication gets closer to origin of ad that sparked federal probe..."

(so far it's crickets from the NDP - notice the national political squeamishness and fear about raising issues pertaining to Israel or its presence and influence in our politics?)

Debater

R.E.Wood wrote:

And the news from Burnaby points out:

Jagmeet Singh had his big day spoiled by his ugliest poll yet 

https://www.burnabynow.com/opinion/blogs/jagmeet-singh-had-his-big-day-s...

The EKOS poll is certainly a bad one for the NDP, although the other pollsters don't show the NDP doing quite that badly so it may be a bit of an outlier.

Still, it does show that the Greens have the potential to challenge the NDP in a way they haven't before (and also cause some problems for the Liberals).

Paladin1

Talk about an arms dealer.

Trudeaus (and Bill Blair's) anti-gun hysteria just seen 20'000  AR15 rifles bought in Canada last month.  Lots of gun stores sold out. Maybe Trudeau will ban them last minute to try to get a few more votes that way. What an expensive move that would be, and not likely to garner many new votes.

Pondering

R.E.Wood wrote:

Some fairly good coverage of the NDP's platform release from Aaron Wherry at CBC, while noting -- as many have -- "What the NDP platform lacked on Sunday was anything that looked like a full costing." It will be interesting to see what that full costing looks like when it does get released.

This isn't Thomas Mulcair's NDP anymore

">https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jagmeet-singh-ndp-platform-analysis-whe...

Great move including to delay costing. The PBO will be putting the seal of approval on all the platforms. I'm betting that Guy Caron has dotted the is' and crossed the ts' on this one. 

It will be good  for the NDP if the other parties spend time attacking the platform as unaffordable just like it was good for the Liberals that they spend time accusing the Liberals of not having any policy. 

NorthReport
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