Andrew Scheer Is An America Citizen - Hold Dual Canadian-USA Citizenship

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Mighty Middle
Andrew Scheer Is An America Citizen - Hold Dual Canadian-USA Citizenship

Well since Tom Mulcair held dual Canadian-French citizenship, this shouldn't be a big deal about Andrew Scheer. Right?

JKR

Maybe Scheer will now oppose the false claim that Canadian environmentalists are secretly backed by secret US entities?

Debater

The issue isn't that he has U.S. citizenship, since many Canadians, including in all the political parties do so as well.

The issue is that he kept it a secret during his 15 years in the House of Commons, several of which he served as Speaker.

And that this comes out only 2.5 weeks before Election Day.

Debater

From the Straight:

Andrew Scheer's dual citizenship would not be an issue had Conservatives not been so self-righteous in the past

https://www.straight.com/news/1309851/andrew-scheers-dual-citizenship-would-not-be-issue-had-conservatives-not-been-so-self

JKR

I think the obvious nickname "Yankee Doodle Andy" may stick to Scheer in this campaign.

Debater

Marieke Walsh, Globe & Mail:

In 2005 Andrew Scheer raised concerns about the dual-citizenship of former governor-general Michaëlle Jean before she gave up her French citizenship to assume Canada’s highest post.

https://twitter.com/MariekeWalsh/status/1179860798413443080

NorthReport

But it's ok for Elizabeth May to have been born in the USA, eh!

Docha have to be born in Canada to become PM? 

What if Trump runs to be our PM, eh!

Debater

May never hid that she was from the U.S.  The issue is Scheer and his lies.  Remember that he's also been caught fudging his job resume by pretending he was a licensed insurance broker, plus it turns out he may not have graduated from U of Regina but from U of Ottawa instead.

Debater

Nathan Cullen:

I didn't like it when my party went after Dion for this, or Cons went after Ignatieff. Having a dual citizenship b/c of where your parents were born doesn't disqualify you from seeking elected office. Hiding the fact - well, that's a question of integrity.

https://twitter.com/nathancullen/status/1179901346255785984

quizzical

he lied is the issue. he continues to lie is the bigger issue.

how stupid you gotta be to say; "i never thought about it" and think people will believe you.

ffs he paid US taxes on his Canadian MP income and attacked others for having dual citizenship. 

his bsery needs to be gone. 

cco

NorthReport wrote:

Docha have to be born in Canada to become PM? 

No. You're confusing Canada with the US. Ironically.

JKR

And Scheer criticized Ignatieff for being tied to the US!

NorthReport

Is that like Trudeau saying he cares are climate change and then secretly billows greenhouse gases into the atmosphere by using additional planes to carry his canoes and other photo props around the country? Just askin'

Debater wrote:

May never hid that she was from the U.S.  The issue is Scheer and his lies.  Remember that he's also been caught fudging his job resume by pretending he was a licensed insurance broker, plus it turns out he may not have graduated from U of Regina but from U of Ottawa instead.

Mighty Middle

Andrew Scheer has now admitted that as a USA citizen, he did register for the draft! As required by law. How can we have a PM, that could be called into service if Trump pushes the button to re-instate the draft!

radiorahim radiorahim's picture

Mighty Middle wrote:

Andrew Scheer has now admitted that as a USA citizen, he did register for the draft! As required by law. How can we have a PM, that could be called into service if Trump pushes the button to re-instate the draft!

Actually the US under Bush II figured out how to get along without the draft during the Iraq war.    They had a defacto "underground" draft as we learned from the war resisters.    And, even when there was an old style draft, there was always the rich boys exemption for folks like Trump and Bush II.

In any case nobody really cares about folks having dual citizenship. The issue is that while attacking the dual citizenship of others, Scheer hid that he was a dual citizen himself.

There's lots of hypocrisy to go around from the leaders of this country's capitalist parties.

NorthReport

You nailed it!

cco

Mighty Middle wrote:

Andrew Scheer has now admitted that as a USA citizen, he did register for the draft! As required by law. How can we have a PM, that could be called into service if Trump pushes the button to re-instate the draft!

Even if it were reactivated, draft eligibility ceases at age 26. Besides, do you think he'd quit as PM and go to the US to report? That Trump would send the 82nd Airborne to extract him? Even during the Vietnam war, Americans who made it to Canada to dodge the draft were safe.

pietro_bcc

I don't care that Scheer has dual citizenship, I also have dual citizenship and would never renounce it to seek office because it is part of my family history and heritage.

I do have a problem with the Conservative party being hypocrites in attacking Mulcair to no end because he got French citizenship from his wife and then turning around and not caring about Scheer being a dual citizen. Either have a consistant stance on party leaders having dual citizenship or shut up about it.

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I agree. Hyoocrite yes. Issue of dual citizenship no.

Unionist

Utterly amazing that progressive-minded intelligent folks can get so partisanly agitated over Scheer's hypocrisy on dual citizenship, Trudeau's dual planes and dual face makeup, absolutely anything about E. May, ... And it's always about the glorious leaders, because they are the party, they are the platform... Is there no one with enough courage to tell the MSM (or anyone): "None of these things matters one iota. It's just flashy substitutes for real thought and analysis and concern, aimed at turning people's brains into mush, and collecting their votes accordingly." Apparently not. How sad.

Unionist

radiorahim wrote:

The issue is that while attacking the dual citizenship of others, Scheer hid that he was a dual citizen himself.

Sorry, I respect almost all your posts and opinions, but to suggest that this is "the issue" is to reduce the political needs of our time to irrelevant gotcha mudslinging.

Likewise in reference to your equating Mulcair with the NDP (you quit when he came and returned when he departed). Mulcair was only the leader. If he spoke in defiance of party policy, then it's the members who are to blame for tolerating that. The NDP constitution gives the leader no significant powers or latitude. If we allow ourselves to be hypnotized into this Leader trance, we seriously have only ourselves to blame.

We need change. Change will not come from the "top", nor will it come via the entertaining scandals offered up by the MSM with each news cycle. It will either come from us, or (being cynical for a moment) it won't come at all - except when it does come, it will be catastrophic and anarchic. I'd prefer that it come from us. And lacking ideas and optimism, I'd appreciate anyone's suggestions as to where and how that can start.

NorthReport

Our priority needs to be a system that is fair and that is perceived to be fair. The growth in inequality is at the root of the problem. Excessive greed needs to be addressed and severely curtailed, otherwise no significant progress will ever be made. I will continue to support political parties but only until something better comes along. 

KarlL

pietro_bcc wrote:

I don't care that Scheer has dual citizenship, I also have dual citizenship and would never renounce it to seek office because it is part of my family history and heritage.

I do have a problem with the Conservative party being hypocrites in attacking Mulcair to no end because he got French citizenship from his wife and then turning around and not caring about Scheer being a dual citizen. Either have a consistant stance on party leaders having dual citizenship or shut up about it.

I have dual citizenship as well and do not see an issue with most politicians maintaining theirs.  There are certain positions however, that don't sit well with allegiances, however nominal or subordinate, to other countries.  Head of government is one, GG probably another and I would throw in Defense, Foreign Affairs and Trade.  There are too many potentially conflicting interests there.  

I don't presume that there would necessarily be conflict on the big issues but let me give you a hypothetical. 

I also have UK citizenship and so, for the moment at least, right of abode and the right to work in Europe.  So would my wife and daughter if I pursued that for them.

I think Brexit is a disastrous decision, because it threatens the status of UK citizens in Europe and citizens of other EU countres within the UK.  It also threatens to reignite tensions in Ireland that have been much reduced since the Good Friday Accords.  And it looks likely to be bad for the UK economically.

The Borys Johnson Tory government has been using NAFTA as an example in the potential future relationship with Europe and has also been pursuing a bilateral trade deal with Canada in order to show that it can develop new or replacement trading relationships on its own. 

There might well be advantages to Canada in a trade deal with the UK and given the Johnson government's fragility, Canada might be able to drive an advantageous deal on market access, etc.

If I were the Canadian Trade Minister, could I really eliminate my personal views on Brexit and its implications from any consideration of a proposed Canada-UK deal?  Could I overcome any reluctance to provide cover to Johnson that would help him, even in a small way, withdraw from the EU?  Or, if I were like Harper and Scheer and supported Brexit, would there be an increased tendency to help Johnson out?

I am not saying that this rests solely with dual citizenship.  I might have renounced my UK citizenship and still have some conscious or unconscious bias.  But  think Canadians have the right to be assured that those in internationally-focused portfolios have done everything that they can to minimize ties to another country.

Paladin1

I had no idea the conservatives attacked other politicans for dual citizenship. Garbage move by them and stupid move by Scheer.

Being unethical works for Trudeau and his fan base, not so sure it will work as well for Scheer.

Paladin1

Unionist wrote:

We need change. Change will not come from the "top", nor will it come via the entertaining scandals offered up by the MSM with each news cycle. It will either come from us, or (being cynical for a moment) it won't come at all - except when it does come, it will be catastrophic and anarchic. I'd prefer that it come from us. And lacking ideas and optimism, I'd appreciate anyone's suggestions as to where and how that can start.

Social media and interactring with people online.

Being respectful and nice to each other. Not calling people trolls if they have a different opinion. Accept that you're not always right. Be okay with others having opinions and views not aligned with your own.

"Be excellent to each other"

Debater

Andrew Scheer's mid-campaign identity crisis

Oct 04, 2019

Aaron Wherry

From citizenship to same-sex marriage to pre-politics resumés, Scheer is struggling to define his own image

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/andrew-scheer-american-citizenship-2019-election-1.5308174