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Yeah, and all those pro life organizations should boycott BMO Mastercard because the NDP has an affinity card with them (and it's a pretty decent credit card, too). Give me a break. BMO has no political agenda with these cards. Any qualifying organization can generally get one if they're inclined.
Regarding the Credit Unions vs Big Banks. I am amazed that any babbler would choose a bank over a credit union. I see it as fundamental to our values. Why don't you shop at Wal*Mart?
Credit Unions co-operative / Banks competitve. Credit Unions local / Banks transnational. Credit Unions small business / Banks big business. Credit Unions ethical funds / Banks dirty money. Credit Unions community values / Banks everything sacrificed to the bottom line.
This list could go on and on but if your Credit union does not meet your needs, speak directly to the board. Better yet run for a seat on the board and advance the values we all talk about. Try that at BMO.
I agree that the BMO probably has no political agenda (re: abortion, anyways) - but I'm thinking about dropping my account with them anyhow - and letting them know why. If enough people pressure them, they may consider cutting their ties with LifeCanada. It seems like such a small, insignificant, action to take; but I'm sure that if the BMO had an affinity card for Morgentaler's clinics, the pro-life groups would protest in scores...and that the BMO would stop carrying such a card.
This story was on the National tonight. They said that BMO will be reviewing its policy for affinity cards due to complaints about the LifeCanada card.
While the BMO sucks anyways, this alone is not reason to boycott the whole bank. Unless you requested THAT CARD, then none of your money would go to pro-life groups.
Don't like Life Canada? Don't apply for their credit card. Simple as that.
Now Gir, would you be saying that to the "principled" crowd, who boycott/harass all things pro-SSM or pro-choice? No? I thought so.
I do not even have a BMO account, Coast Capital all the way for me, and I e-mailed them with complaints when I read this earlier today.
It is called a leveling a playing field, apparently we let the children out to play for too long unattended and they got a bit feral and started digging holes in our well grounded rights.
quote:Originally posted by remind: Now Gir, would you be saying that to the "principled" crowd, who boycott/harass all things pro-SSM or pro-choice? No? I thought so.
Actually, yes I would. But I don't deal with many of the "principled" anymore. All the so-cons I know personally aren't that insane. [img]tongue.gif" border="0[/img]
quote: I agree that the BMO probably has no political agenda (re: abortion, anyways) - but I'm thinking about dropping my account with them anyhow - and letting them know why. If enough people pressure them, they may consider cutting their ties with LifeCanada. It seems like such a small, insignificant, action to take; but I'm sure that if the BMO had an affinity card for Morgentaler's clinics, the pro-life groups would protest in scores...and that the BMO would stop carrying such a card.
BMO has no political agenda. Any group that applies can get one as long as they meet a certain criteria. Other babblers here have indicated that NDP has a creditcard - is it a BMO one? I don't know. I am certain that left wing organizations with prochoice views have an affinity card but were more discreet about advertising it.
And, yes, you are right if the prolife movement knew they might consider a boycott. Not sure, but they might. The prolife movement has proven itself to be effective at boycotting. They even have a whole website set up re: planned parenthood but due to misuse you now have to pay for the list. They've had dozens and dozens of businesses change their mind about donations.
quote: I do not even have a BMO account, Coast Capital all the way for me, and I e-mailed them with complaints when I read this earlier today.
My credit union is fantastic - I have an 'Enviro' card that sends cash to enviro orgs whenver I use it. That means they get about 3 pennies a year from me. [img]smile.gif" border="0[/img]
I wouldn't go back to one of the big banks for any reason, aside from necessity (i.e. when I lived in a small town and the only bank was CIBC).
Being open on Saturday is a bonus, and actually having branches in my neighbourhood helps - most of the big banks closed half their branches.
My credit union actually gave us the best mortgage rate we could find as well, with the most favourable terms.
My parents have been at their credit union for decades - after 25 years they no longer have to pay any service fees.
Yes, Hailey, the NDP card is a Bank of Montreal card, and they treat me decently as a client. Their customer service has been less than thrilling, but I have had no problems with billing or acceptance.
A lot of people here call credit evil, but I'm not prepared to stop buying things over the internet.
quote: And, yes, you are right if the prolife movement knew they might consider a boycott. Not sure, but they might. The prolife movement has proven itself to be effective at boycotting. They even have a whole website set up re: planned parenthood but due to misuse you now have to pay for the list. They've had dozens and dozens of businesses change their mind about donations.
Well, here's an article calling on pro-lifers to boycott BMO for "[excluding] LifeCanada because of poor-choice pressure tactics". I guess that answers the question about whether or not the pro-life movement would consider a boycott.
I renewed my VISA card in August, and today I get a statement outlining increased rates - a 5% increase in the annual rate, now 24.75%. This is outrageous - how do they get away with this? I guess I'll cut up my VISA card and rely on my MasterCard instead, which I don't use much, anyway. (sorry if this is the wrong thread, it's the only one I found)
ETA: isn't there a number to call to ask for a lower interest rate?
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I am amazed that any babbler would choose a bank over a credit union. I see it as fundamental to our values. Why don't you shop at Wal*Mart?
Credit Unions co-operative / Banks competitve. Credit Unions local / Banks transnational.
Credit Unions small business / Banks big business.
Credit Unions ethical funds / Banks dirty money.
Credit Unions community values / Banks everything sacrificed to the bottom line.
This list could go on and on but if your Credit union does not meet your needs, speak directly to the board. Better yet run for a seat on the board and advance the values we all talk about.
Try that at BMO.
Congrats, everyone!
Don't like Life Canada? Don't apply for their credit card. Simple as that.
I do not even have a BMO account, Coast Capital all the way for me, and I e-mailed them with complaints when I read this earlier today.
It is called a leveling a playing field, apparently we let the children out to play for too long unattended and they got a bit feral and started digging holes in our well grounded rights.
Actually, yes I would. But I don't deal with many of the "principled" anymore. All the so-cons I know personally aren't that insane. [img]tongue.gif" border="0[/img]
BMO has no political agenda. Any group that applies can get one as long as they meet a certain criteria. Other babblers here have indicated that NDP has a creditcard - is it a BMO one? I don't know. I am certain that left wing organizations with prochoice views have an affinity card but were more discreet about advertising it.
And, yes, you are right if the prolife movement knew they might consider a boycott. Not sure, but they might. The prolife movement has proven itself to be effective at boycotting. They even have a whole website set up re: planned parenthood but due to misuse you now have to pay for the list. They've had dozens and dozens of businesses change their mind about donations.
I wrote them and got a reply. Did anyone else?
I wouldn't go back to one of the big banks for any reason, aside from necessity (i.e. when I lived in a small town and the only bank was CIBC).
Being open on Saturday is a bonus, and actually having branches in my neighbourhood helps - most of the big banks closed half their branches.
My credit union actually gave us the best mortgage rate we could find as well, with the most favourable terms.
My parents have been at their credit union for decades - after 25 years they no longer have to pay any service fees.
I *heart* credit unions.
A lot of people here call credit evil, but I'm not prepared to stop buying things over the internet.
Well, here's an article calling on pro-lifers to boycott BMO for "[excluding] LifeCanada because of poor-choice pressure tactics". I guess that answers the question about whether or not the pro-life movement would consider a boycott.
http://conservativelife.com/blog/index.php/General/2005/03/26/bmo-mastercard-and-lifecanada.html
ETA: isn't there a number to call to ask for a lower interest rate?
I almost died from public education, so I can vouch for the concept.
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Another visitor from Spamalot. And I'll bet they'd be very happily to gore us, too.
God, I miss G. Muffin. Hope she's doing well. That was one of the funniest lines I've ever read.