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Unions for Rental Units

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Palamedes
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Now, it's been long accepted that if there are unfair working conditions - all the workers band together - and gain collective strength.

A fact that isn't well known is that it was companies that started the concept of unions - because there was a lack of labour after the plague - and they wanted to protect the employees.

So, without similar plague-induced inspiration from the landlords, it seems to fall to the tenants to create such a parallel in the rental markets.

Here is how it would work:

If tenants feel that the landlord is being unfair - ie rent too high, poor maintenance, etc - then they contact a union rep.

The union rep - then spends time educating the tenants - and then a vote is done. If succesful, you have a tenant union.

This union then has the power to have everyone hold back the rent, and or have everyone leave and find other accomodation if their demands are not met.

The goal here is to prevent landlords from continually raising the rent, and making ridiculous profits.


Michelle
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James
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It would be legally untenable in any jurisdiction that I know of. It is hard enough to avoid evicton for with-holding rent for infractions applying only to your own unit. To do so in solidarity for a neighbour would just not fly.

Michelle
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This is true - I missed that line.

Although...I suppose if EVERYONE in a high rise refused to pay the rent until the landlord fixed the problem (and picketed outside to make it public) then what would they do, evict everyone?

However, as James says, I doubt you could muster up the solidarity for that. Unless, of course, the situation is so bad that everyone's looking for a new place anyhow and doesn't give a damn whether they get evicted. [img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]


James
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Well, it's also possible for a group of tenants within one complex to file a joint application for an order for improvements and rent abatements if they have similar complaints.

However, the whole residential rental legal scheme in Ontario changes effective Jan 31, and I admit to not being 100% on top of all of the changes. At least, no more default evictions without a hearing, and, at least, a tenant who is being threatened with eviction can now raise issues of landlord malfeasance without filing a separate application.


HeywoodFloyd
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They would plead cash-flow problems, shut off the power, water, gas, and sewer, change the locks on all the units, and wait them out.

James
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quote:Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd:
They would plead cash-flow problems, shut off the power, water, gas, and sewer, change the locks on all the units, and wait them out.

Heywood, that's Alberta. In a more enlightened province, that would put a landlord broke and in jail.


Politics101
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"and making ridiculous profits."

Care to back that statement up with some facts and what do you consider to be a fair return on your investment - 2% or 10%.


HeywoodFloyd
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quote:Originally posted by James:

Heywood, that's Alberta. In a more enlightened province, that would put a landlord broke and in jail.

I doubt it. If a whole high-rise quit paying, the REIT industry would back up the landlord in whatever action they took and you can bet there wouldn't be any jail time.

With the ownership of most mega-multi (+15) unit housing by REITS now, you'd be messing with retirees income, mutual fund income, etc. There's no way the industry would tolerate it.


Stargazer
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There is no incentive for landlords to comply with work orders. It's a 500 dollar fine. Most would suck that up instead of spending more money to fix the problem. Typical of slum landlords.

A factor preventing people from banding together is also fear. Many people who live in poor housing conditions are newly arrived, and some haven't got a good grasp of English. These people are easily exploited by landlords. Same as people fresh out of jail, people on assistance of any type, the list goes on. Landlords know this, and they know that tenants usually do not have the knowledge, tools and will to take them to a Rental Tribunal.

Read this for your typical slum landlord:

Bad Landlords: The case of the Wynn Brothers


TCD
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quote:Originally posted by James:
It would be legally untenable in any jurisdiction that I know of. It is hard enough to avoid evicton for with-holding rent for infractions applying only to your own unit. To do so in solidarity for a neighbour would just not fly.
All true, but, we should remember, that the first trade union strikes were similarly illegal as were the first industrial strikes.

The real key is organizing and finding people who are so desperate angry motivated and organized that they're ready to put their home on the line. A tough call.

It's not unprecedented.


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