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quote: I thought about doing that but how does one go about asking strangers personal questions?
Jester, I see that your current from line puts you at the outskirts of civilisation. Ok, I don't mean to sound sarcastic or flippant, but it raises the question, how come I could think of half a dozen women right off the top of my head that I could ask that question. I guess a lot of it is that I work in a very multi-cultural setting, and a lot of people I've come to know quite well are Muslim women. So I don't mean to sound like "but some of my best friends are ****", but seeing as the question was asked, the answer is that at least with those I know, to the extent that they make these religious/cultural observances, yes it's voluntary.
I was reading an arcticle in the Star this morning, this one as a matter of fact, that made me think of this discussion. Haroon Siddiqui writes about the current struggle in Turkey between militant secularists and Islamists, both percieved and real, which leave a lot of people who just wish to observe their faith with personal expressions of piety stuck in the middle. As I suggested in my post above, (the second one, as the first one seems to have gone over everyones head and now I'm going to hell for nothing) there is nothing progressive about enforced secularism. This is a matter that should and will be worked out by women within Islam.
quote:Originally posted by bigcitygal: Hey inkameep, fyi, the Muslim Canadian Congress is not necessarily the group that you should be touting for your "progressive Muslim" cred. Check out the numerous threads on babble critiquing the MCC for more in-depth discussions.
I have more confidence in the progressive credentials of the MCC than I do in the progressive credentials of the defenders of feminine modesty.
quote:I have more confidence in the progressive credentials of the MCC than I do in the progressive credentials of the defenders of feminine modesty.
Progressive credentials hinge on How women should dress. And we blame the USA for running havoc, devastation and misery when it is showing How women in Afghanistan dress now under occupation..
Maybe before assessing others' "progressive credentials" you should check whether you are qualified for the task.
quote: At the World Tae Kwon Do Championships in 2005, women also competed wearing hijabs.
But Faucher disagreed saying: "That's how they may do it in other countries, but here we apply the rules."
Faucher said Quebec would continue to strictly enforce the WTF's competition rule 4.2.2: "Wearing any item on the head other than the head protector shall not be permitted," until a written confirmation for a change was received.
The sooner someone takes this Moslem hater to a human rights tribunal the better.
Jester, I see that your current from line puts you at the outskirts of civilisation. Ok, I don't mean to sound sarcastic or flippant, but it raises the question, how come I could think of half a dozen women right off the top of my head that I could ask that question. I guess a lot of it is that I work in a very multi-cultural setting, and a lot of people I've come to know quite well are Muslim women. So I don't mean to sound like "but some of my best friends are ****", but seeing as the question was asked, the answer is that at least with those I know, to the extent that they make these religious/cultural observances, yes it's voluntary.
I was reading an arcticle in the Star this morning, this one as a matter of fact, that made me think of this discussion. Haroon Siddiqui writes about the current struggle in Turkey between militant secularists and Islamists, both percieved and real, which leave a lot of people who just wish to observe their faith with personal expressions of piety stuck in the middle. As I suggested in my post above, (the second one, as the first one seems to have gone over everyones head and now I'm going to hell for nothing) there is nothing progressive about enforced secularism. This is a matter that should and will be worked out by women within Islam.
[ 06 May 2007: Message edited by: oldgoat ]
Martial arts Hijabis compete despite Quebec ban
http://www.themuslimweekly.com/fullstoryview.aspx?NewsID=7BE72BD85DC7FE9400D2E0DB&MENUID=INTNEWS&DESCRIPTION=International%20News
Progressive credentials hinge on How women should dress. And we blame the USA for running havoc, devastation and misery when it is showing How women in Afghanistan dress now under occupation..
Maybe before assessing others' "progressive credentials" you should check whether you are qualified for the task.
The sooner someone takes this Moslem hater to a human rights tribunal the better.