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quote:Psychics were recruited by the Ministry of Defence to locate Osama Bin Laden's secret lair, it was claimed yesterday.
Newly declassified documents revealed that the MoD conducted an experiment to see if volunteers could 'see' objects hidden inside an envelope.
It is claimed the ministry hoped positive results would allow it to use psychics to 'remotely view' Bin Laden's base and also to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
However, after running up a bill of Ј18,000 of taxpayers' money, defence chiefs concluded there was 'little value' in using psychic powers in the defence of the nation and the research was taken no further.
How can Osama Bin Laden be so hard to find? Since before 9/11/2001 the USA and it's allies have been after him and I'm surprised that they still haven't caught him. His image has been broadcast all over the world, everybody knows what he looks like and he's probably one of the most hated people on Earth. Even though his followers think he's some kind of 'holy man', they can't protect him forever, can they?
Perhaps we should blindfold Bush, spin him around a few times, and then have him pin the tail on the donkey with the donkey being a map of Afghanistan and then direct US bombing raids accordingly.
quote:US intelligence agencies are recruiting psychics to help predict future attacks and to find Osama Bin Laden. The recruits, known as "remote viewers", claim to be able to visualise happenings in distant places by using paranormal powers.
The US government established a remote viewing programme, known as Stargate, in the 1970s in an attempt to utilise the skills claimed by psychics to combat communism. The programme, at the Stanford Research Institute in California, was shut down in 1995 after the end of the cold war.
Now, however, US intelligence agencies are reactivating some of their old paranormal spies.
Prudence Calabrese, whose Transdimensional Systems employs 14 remote viewers, confirmed that the FBI had asked the company to predict likely targets of future terrorist attacks.
"Our reports suggest a sports stadium could be a likely target," she said.
The FBI and CIA refused to comment but confirmed investigators have been told to "think out of the box".
Well, now that we all know where Osama Bin Laden is, all of our problems are solved. Those psychics on the "Stargate Team" must be doing a really good job.
quote:Originally posted by Fidel: I wonder what the real reason for the evol empire using psychics was.
The real reason is that the brainstrust in charge of the evil empire has such little regard for science and such high regard for religion and superstition.
quote:Originally posted by Fidel: I wonder what the real reason for the evol empire using psychics was. Would any of you want to go to work for them ?.
You betcha! I'll send my resume via mental telepathy!
quote:Originally posted by M. Spector: The real reason is that the brainstrust in charge of the evil empire has such little regard for science and such high regard for religion and superstition.
Sure, and they spent a lot of money on off the beaten track research into mind control throughout the cold war. MK Ultra is said to have been an undertaking on a scale with the Manhattan project. Our own Canadian governments were in on it. Their covert shadow agency is said to be practicing extreme sensory deprivation and other human rights violations in these secret prisons all over the world still. We know who the evol empire is.
MK Ultra was a different bird from the baffling stupidity of the employment of "psychics".
Ultra was(is?) an experiment in using chemicals and drugs to alter the behavior of subjects unaware of their participation. It is a program that could have sprung from the mind of Dr. Mengele. Perhaps it did in a way, considering the vast number of Nazis engaged by US intelligence services after the war, and the enthusiasm shown by the US government for grotesque and horrific experiments on its own citizens.
The psychic remote veiwing nonsense is something about which Penn and Teller would have much to say. I think "bullshit" comes immediately to mind, and I ain't no psychic.
quote:Originally posted by Jingles: MK Ultra was a different bird from the baffling stupidity of the employment of "psychics".
Ultra was(is?).
Ultra was a big budget military project with dozens of sub-programs. Donald Cameron worked for the OSS before it became the CIA, and some of the people he worked with and whose work he drew upon did so-called research into everything from eugenics and torture to mind control, psychic driving and telepathy. There were a string of scientists in their employ who had the worst of luck falling out of tenth story and higher windows. Not all of the accident-prone were in the MK program.
CIA director Richard Helms(Watergate), no relation to Jesse Helms of the "Helms-Burton" (a different breed of ultra right-wing cold war whacko), is alleged to have ordered all Mk Ultra documentation destroyed and the program ended in 1973. Supposedly.
It's what happens when psychopaths take orders from sociopaths, you get a big bloated politically conservative shadow government bureaucracy where the right hand doesn't know what the other right hand is doing most of the time. Conservatives love bloated bureaucracies. Observe Homeland Security fiasco spilling over into Ottawa's agenda. I think our weak-minded, corrupt Conservative and Liberal politicos could be drone subjects of some MK Ultra sub-program gone awry.
It helps when the psychopaths (not to be confused with psychics) you hire have an impressive CV of service to Adolf Hitler and the SS. The OSS/CIA and the Dulles brothers had a particular fondness, nay love, for the most vicious murders and torturers the Reich could produce. Maybe it was the snazzy outfits; all that leather. If you want the finest German engineering, you get a BMW.
quote:Originally posted by Fidel: And the Japanese. The west recovered a wealth of Mengele-like so called research from them at the end of WWII. Little bastards.
I am still sort of new here, but isn't referring to the Japanese as "little bastards" a bit of a racist generalization, and not acceptable on babble.
I am still sort of new here, but isn't referring to the Japanese as "little bastards" a bit of a racist generalization, and not acceptable on babble.
[ 24 February 2007: Message edited by: oreobw ]
I was clearly referring to the war crimes committed. Anyone who commits war crimes is wide open to be called little bastards regardless of ethnicity. So let's not steer this thread into the rhubarb.
quote:Originally posted by aka Mycroft: Perhaps we should blindfold Bush, spin him around a few times, and then have him pin the tail on the donkey with the donkey being a map of Afghanistan and then direct US bombing raids accordingly.
the funny part is that before 9/11 the US Gov and the CIA had no trouble "finding" him and meeting multiple times hell he even got treatment at a Us military run hospital in Saudi Arabia during his time being on top of the FBI wanted list did he not?
Pure BS Bin laden and Bush are probably sniffing coke with obama right now.
Wait a second here! Bush speaks to God, who told him to invade and kill. Now if God can't find bin laden, what are the psychics supposed to do?
Obviously Bush didn't pray enough to the god of war. There will be no cookies and milk for him at bedtime!
Bloody hell - did their batphone line to God get cut or maybe they just aren't paying the bills.
RE: The Japanese - some awful experiments and killings went on there towards the Chinese and Russians. If you can stomach it, watch Men Behind the Sun:
A Report from Veteran News Bin Laden Never Mentioned in McChrystal Report or Obama Speech. "Hunt for Bin Laden" a National Shame
Conservative commentator, former Marine Colonel Bob Pappas has been saying for years that bin Laden died at Tora Bora and that Senator Kerry's claim that bin Laden escaped with Bush help was a lie. Now we know that Pappas was correct. The embarassment of having Secretary of State Clinton talk about bin Laden in Pakistan was horrific. He has been dead since December 13, 2001 and now, finally, everyone, Obama, McChrystal, Cheney, everyone who isn't nuts is finally saying what they have known for years...
The bin Laden scam is one of the most shameful acts ever perpetrated against the American people.
Are these psychics supposed to bring him back from the dead? They must be very skillful psychics.
There are a small number of psychics who can find missing people in remote locations. One psychic has been used to find missing people in Tokyo and is alleged to have located secret military stuff for them at remote locations in the former Soviet Union. And that's no small task considering how so much of Tokyo looks the same from neighborhood to neighnorhood, apartment block to apartment block.
They tried to hire twelve professionals who all refused to work with the military. They've resorted to using novices instead.
Read it here.
[ 23 February 2007: Message edited by: Snuckles ]
Oh, sorry, that's already been done.
Those psychics on the "Stargate Team" must be doing a really good job.
You betcha! I'll send my resume via mental telepathy!
Sure, and they spent a lot of money on off the beaten track research into mind control throughout the cold war. MK Ultra is said to have been an undertaking on a scale with the Manhattan project. Our own Canadian governments were in on it. Their covert shadow agency is said to be practicing extreme sensory deprivation and other human rights violations in these secret prisons all over the world still. We know who the evol empire is.
Ultra was(is?) an experiment in using chemicals and drugs to alter the behavior of subjects unaware of their participation. It is a program that could have sprung from the mind of Dr. Mengele. Perhaps it did in a way, considering the vast number of Nazis engaged by US intelligence services after the war, and the enthusiasm shown by the US government for grotesque and horrific experiments on its own citizens.
The psychic remote veiwing nonsense is something about which Penn and Teller would have much to say. I think "bullshit" comes immediately to mind, and I ain't no psychic.
Ultra was a big budget military project with dozens of sub-programs. Donald Cameron worked for the OSS before it became the CIA, and some of the people he worked with and whose work he drew upon did so-called research into everything from eugenics and torture to mind control, psychic driving and telepathy. There were a string of scientists in their employ who had the worst of luck falling out of tenth story and higher windows. Not all of the accident-prone were in the MK program.
CIA director Richard Helms(Watergate), no relation to Jesse Helms of the "Helms-Burton" (a different breed of ultra right-wing cold war whacko), is alleged to have ordered all Mk Ultra documentation destroyed and the program ended in 1973. Supposedly.
It's what happens when psychopaths take orders from sociopaths, you get a big bloated politically conservative shadow government bureaucracy where the right hand doesn't know what the other right hand is doing most of the time. Conservatives love bloated bureaucracies. Observe Homeland Security fiasco spilling over into Ottawa's agenda. I think our weak-minded, corrupt Conservative and Liberal politicos could be drone subjects of some MK Ultra sub-program gone awry.
[ 24 February 2007: Message edited by: Fidel ]
I am still sort of new here, but isn't referring to the Japanese as "little bastards" a bit of a racist generalization, and not acceptable on babble.
[ 24 February 2007: Message edited by: oreobw ]
I was clearly referring to the war crimes committed. Anyone who commits war crimes is wide open to be called little bastards regardless of ethnicity. So let's not steer this thread into the rhubarb.
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kill little bastards
I wonder what the psychics said about this?
Bin Laden Son Reported Killed In Pakistan
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106903109&ft=1&f=1001
Benazir Bhutto: Bin Laden was Murdered YouTube video
Jeez, don't be sayin' things like that or bad things could happen.
I found him! I found him! If you look at the map (above) he's hiding in shithouse number 3!
the funny part is that before 9/11 the US Gov and the CIA had no trouble "finding" him and meeting multiple times hell he even got treatment at a Us military run hospital in Saudi Arabia during his time being on top of the FBI wanted list did he not?
Pure BS Bin laden and Bush are probably sniffing coke with obama right now.
Wait a second here! Bush speaks to God, who told him to invade and kill. Now if God can't find bin laden, what are the psychics supposed to do?
Obviously Bush didn't pray enough to the god of war. There will be no cookies and milk for him at bedtime!
Bloody hell - did their batphone line to God get cut or maybe they just aren't paying the bills.
RE: The Japanese - some awful experiments and killings went on there towards the Chinese and Russians. If you can stomach it, watch Men Behind the Sun:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093170/
Osama Bin Laden, Dead or Alive? Years of Deceit: US Openly Accepts Bin Laden Long Dead
bin Laden is dead. Long live bin Laden!
discovery : bin laden is hiding in every neocons brain/wetdream... they know he's in their somewhere, they just can't seem to catch him!!
Are these psychics supposed to bring him back from the dead? They must be very skillful psychics.
There are a small number of psychics who can find missing people in remote locations. One psychic has been used to find missing people in Tokyo and is alleged to have located secret military stuff for them at remote locations in the former Soviet Union. And that's no small task considering how so much of Tokyo looks the same from neighborhood to neighnorhood, apartment block to apartment block.
They tried to hire twelve professionals who all refused to work with the military. They've resorted to using novices instead.