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Have you contacted the Toronto Star, or other newspaper? Given the current Facebook hype, there would be a great possibility for getting media exposure for this crap, if that would be helpful.
Local media is also a great idea:
cclark@guelphtribune.ca
newsroom@therecord.com
newsroom@southwesternontario.ctv.ca
[ 21 July 2007: Message edited by: writer ]
I have never been on facebook and I'm glad of that. I was quite late in getting accustomed to computers and the internet and I think I prefer the 'primitive' methods of socializing. At least that way, the thugs and goons had to appear in person to conspire and persecute.
writer has screen captures of all the comment pages, and almost everyone is using their real name, along with their city or school.
I'm hoping a journalist will actually do an investigative story, track these little pissants down, get comments from them, and use their full names along with some choice racist and sexist quotes from the group.
Does anyone who has taken a course in journalistic ethics know whether printing names of teenagers under 18 along with their quotes is allowed?
That's tricky. Each media outlet probably has its own policy. I assume since this is a public group and the comments are public that it would be acceptable because other people would have a reasonable chance to see them. There have been facebook bullying stories that I think named under-age kids (I'm not sure if they were quoted). I think the only difficulty would be confirming the identities. It is possible to make fake accounts now that Facebook is open to everyone. That's pretty unlikely in this case, but editors would want to cover themselves especially well when dealing with under-agers.
They will be dealing with two standards of course.
[ 21 July 2007: Message edited by: Cueball ]
Michelle, what a great idea! Some people may wish to EXPELL the students for saying racist things, but you think it's better to TEACH them the error of their ways. I agree with you.
In a way, it "remind"s me of another poster on Rabble who wants someone fired for saying something racist in an email. I thought that firing was too harsh, but you said I was trolling.
I don't believe in expelling kids from high school over stuff like this. I don't even necessarily think this should be something that haunts them forever. I think something like this should be a learning experience, and a little bit of writhing over their nastiness made a little more public than they'd like for a while (e.g. having parents, other people in the community, etc. finding out about it) is a good lesson.
If you have something to say about another babbler, and it conforms to policy, say it in the appropriate thread. Stop trying to be cute.
I'm only saying this to teach and support you in not coming across like a petulant twit.
You're welcome
Yeah, I'm outta here. It's clear that you HATE proud Jews, and I am going to launch a human rights complaint against this site for its vile treatment of people of the faith.
That's it, I'm resigning and I'm outta here too!
Lighten up, Moshe. I'm just asking you to stop carrying snark from thread to thread, that's all.
Once you're feeling a little more calm, feel free to come back and continue posting. You're not going to egg me into banning your account that easily! [img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]
[ 21 July 2007: Message edited by: remind ]
Seems the police representative on the other end of the line was more interested that she was a prostitute and might know some of her stalkers.
So, if anyone is contacting city reps this week, might want to mention how police inaction looks, too, given the Picton trial going on right now.
It might not be a good idea to get the police involved!
Wow.
I think a complaint to the Canadian Human Rights Commission should be considered. After all, we have the names of the group's creator and those of the offensive posters.
Maybe this will get some action.
Poster A. Hearth is taking them on. They don;t see the harm they are doing, they think its fun.
and from the you tube link
cleverwhite says
they claim they are not racist, but some individuals are posting this
There are sure a lot of white people in the group that keep claiming "this is not racist"
Along with reporting this group to Facebook admin I am writing a letter to the Cambridge Times about the harassment and abuse occuring in their community.
[ 23 July 2007: Message edited by: TemporalHominid ]
As I posted above I already contacted the police when I saw this thread. I spoke with the City of Cambridge Mayor's office this morning and his assistant requested I send the forwarded email to her and the Mayor himself. He is on vacation until July 31 but monitors his email. She assured me that she will pursue it with local police herself and discuss it with the Mayor and other city councilors. I also made it clear that this was not going to go away and that I was not the only one filing complaints and pursuing this.
All due respect to the Human Rights Commission but there is no chance this will recieve an immediate reaction as I believe the office is already overloaded with complaints. I will be very glad to be wrong on this impression but I think this needs to be pursued aggressively. This is also why sites like Babble are very necessary. I think some people on facebook may actually think that reporting the group is enough. I would never agree with that in a case like this.
I also included contact information for the police here and there so that your complaint would have additional support.
A number of people have e-mailed the municipalities in Waterloo, Kitchener and Cambridge.
Next: contact info for provincial and federal representatives.
I'm with you, as this person's safety is at risk. The descriptions of what some members want to do to this individual are graphic. They have already de-humanised her... I rally do think her personal safety is at risk
I kicked myself afterwards because I forgot to mention the speculation about running her over with cars, etc. I was focused more on the stalking and photographing. And I'm betting that the jokes about how people "should have" run her over probably aren't considered illegal either, because they're not specifically threatening to do so.
Anyhow, after I talked to her, I got transfered to someone else who would actually take the report. He sounded much less concerned about it than she did. He took the info, said he knew the woman in question (they've probably had lots of dealings with her before), and that apparently the little pukes on the stalker list have her name spelled wrong - it's actually very similar-sounding and I'm not going to post it here, but they have one of the vowels wrong and one of the consonants. So that one idiot on the stalker list who is claiming she "knows Obeeba personally" and that she's okay with it? Yeah. A little lying jerk, otherwise she'd know that "Obeeba" isn't actually the woman's name.
So, the cop who took the report thanked me, was nice enough, and told me that they'd "keep an eye on it" in case it escalates.
Clearly, there needs to be some public pressure brought to bear.