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Carbon tax is coming, and anyone who has a serious grasp of environmental issues, knows that a direct tax on polution is probably the only effective market based mechanism for dealing with the issue. Some people seem to think they can get away with having their cake and eating it too, but the fact is the only ways to actually confront the growing climate change problems are going to have an economic impact, one way or the other.
Of course, in a neo-liberal capitalist context this is going to arranged so that it hits the most marginalized first, but if you are serious about the environment the reality is clear. Our present standard of living can not be supported by this planet. Anyone who is trying to make it sound like it can be done, is willful blind or lying.
The Federal NDP's support for the "Bait and Switch" environmental program of Carbon Credits, amounted to so much green coloured packaging, and it did nothing for the NDP at all, other give them the opportunity to say they had an "environment plan." Poll results prove this conclusively, since the NDP did not increase it share of the popular vote.
People in Vancouver are probably more environmentally concious than the majority Canadians. Greenpeace was founded there for example. One can expect that they are well aware of the superiority of directly taxing poluters as a means curbing the increase of CO2 and the flaws in the Carbon Credits system, so overall, BCNDP will probably benefit in the long run.
Cap and trade DID NOT get the Federal NDP an increase in vote share in the last federal election. Therefore there is no reason to be wedded to it.
[ 30 October 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]