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And your guilt by association for all Obama supporters is very Rovian. To link a bunch of random anonymous comments to the entire campaign is also ridiculous.
Far worse things are said every day in comment boards everywhere on the internet. And these usually by teenagers in basements. No howls of protest there.
And I think Palin got the worse for wear, but her actions and her very public projection of her family life into the campaign invited this sort of thing. Identity politics really cuts every which way.
No that's not what she was saying at all there's more to the context of that statement. They came within reference to the article she wrote after Palin was announced and some of the controversy of her being accused of not siding with a woman, because she was a woman so it wasn't a statement that had to do with women leaders in general but to the specifics of this actual election. I'm going by memory here because I can't find a transcript yet.
I think it's probably best that if there is a indepth debate like this about her comments that they be taken in it's entire context as they are basically only reminds and I's paraphrasing.
** there is much more that I would say here about a man, no matter how "feminist" his credentials are, who keeps insisting women/feminists don't know what the fuck was being said/meant, or not! But I won't.
How is it an issue if it's not what she was said or meant? That makes no sense.
For the record - from Oprah's website, summarizing that part of her program:
She also credits Hillary Clinton for "being a real soldier for Barack Obama".
And yet that snippet is still not in context of the entire conversation and does not jive with your unsettling conclusion that the in that statement she was suggesting that somehow that the 'best woman for the job is a man' or leading to some sort of feeling that 'this was the best women could hope for.'
It's not even close.
What she was saying was in reference to two SPECIFIC men, not men as leaders in general, and frankly I agree that if what she says about them specifically is actually true then that is a good thing for women and men as well.
Now in taking your questions as an actual issue separate from her comments the answers are easy.
No and no.
Radio Hosts Prove Media Cavemen Are Alive, Well
by Sheila Gibbons
"Women's media treatment has moved ahead on many fronts, but a new Media Matters report finds right-wing radio hosts stuck in a time warp. Sheila Gibbons also flags the scarcity of Huffington Post female bloggers found in a FAIR study. (...)
(...) But that's kid stuff compared with what Media Matters for America found. In an analysis released Nov. 13, the media watchdog group confirmed that right-wing talk show hosts are especially vicious toward women.
Chris Baker, host of a morning drive show on Minneapolis' KTLK-FM, called Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin a "smoking-hot chick" who "shoulda had a little cleavage going" when she gave her acceptance speech at the convention.
Discussing John McCain's acceptance speech, Baker called the Code Pink protesters who briefly interrupted the address "another bunch that ought to have all their tubes tied. All right? I can't stand these Code Pink broads."
Lee Rodgers, whose morning drive-time talk program airs on San Francisco's KSFO-AM, said, "You look at many--perhaps most--of the women who are professed leaders of the feminist movement in this country and they're a bunch of hags . . . They couldn't get laid in a men's prison, let's be honest about it." He also ascribed Democrats' appeal to women this way: "A lot of women in this country who get knocked up and they don't have a husband. In effect, the government becomes Daddy in terms of paying the bills . . . that accounts for a large part of that vote."
Cincinnati-based talk show host Bill Cunningham made almost the identical remark on his show less than two weeks later. (...)"
Are they are getting talking points, or they are like ever other MSM, just copy catting one anothers terminology?
And what is up at the HP, one would think that they of all people would have gender equity in their org.
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