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Boycott Israel (part 2)

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Unionist
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Slumberjack wrote:

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And which confirms our obligation internationally, as allies of the Palestinian people's quest for emancipation, not to second-guess their requests for aid but come forward and help in any way they request.

Isn't it ironic though, apart from individual divestment, that this can only be effectively achieved through the one of the primary vehicles for international white supremacy, the UN security council.

I don't understand why that should be the case. The Commonwealth played a very effective role (surprisingly) once it began ostracizing the South African apartheid regime. Individual countries can play a very significant role.

But you asked for a source where Palestinian civil society requests economic sanctions. Did you have a chance to review the document I cited?


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I'd like to address one particular defence put forward by supporters of the proposed academic boycott of Israel who I think are ducking the question of why Israel is being singled out and why not apply the same standards toa cademics from otehr countries that engage in human rights violations (including my country of citizenship and the country that employs me).

The argument that the fact that we're not boycotting EVERY country doesn't mean we shouldn't fight injustice perpetrated by ONE of them. I fully recognize the folly of the logic that "if you can't solve EVERY problem, don't bother trying to solve ANY." However, that simply doesn't apply to this situation and is a complete red herring.

There are things that we can do to affect change that are difficult and costly and there are things that we do which are easy and don't cost a thing. The absurdity of the "if not ALL, then why any?" would apply in SOME situations, but not this one. The fact that I can't afford to give a generous donation to support cancer research AND AIDS research AND heart disease research AND diabetes research shouldn't stop me from making a donation to support cancer research. The fact that I don't ahve time to volunteer at the food bank AND the homeless shelter AND the soup kitchen AND the senior's residence isn't an excuse not to volunteer at the food bank.

But the action proposed by CUPE takes no effort and costs nothing. It literally costs nothing because everyone, CIPE included, knows it will never actually be implemented. It is purely symbolic. So if you're going to take a purely symbolic action - and an easy and cost-free one - why not add other countries to the boycott list? What does it really take for CUPE to do this? 2 extra minutes of typing and an extra sheet of paper (sadly the list of human rights violators is a lengthy one). THIS is the reason that people think israel is being treated unfairly and ahve come to question teh motivations of those behind the proposal.

We wouldn't stand for this in other areas. I imagine, for example, that some people of Italian descent steal cars. People of Italian descent are certainly far from the ONLY group that steals cars. An Italian guy stealing a car isn't inherently morally worse than a Swedish guy or Mexican guy or Japanese guy or Dutch guy stealing a car. It doesn't take any extra effort on my part to condemn ALL car thiefs than it does to condemn ITALIAN ones. So, if I were to put out a public statement specifically condemning "Italian car thiefs", would it maybe be reasonable to suggest that I was treating italians unfairly? Could one plausibly suggest that I may harbour some sort of bigotry towards italians?

 That depends who stole your car. Laughing

Point being ... The issue of concern in this thread is the immediate bombardment and blockade of Palestinians by Israel, the immediate events and possible effective responses to stop the immediate atrocities ... by Israel.

 

 


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 the comparison to Apartheid ... Naomi Klein

http://www.alternet.org/audits/118332/want_to_end_the_violence_in_gaza_boycott_israel./?page=entire 

"Ronnie Kasrils, a prominent South African politician, said that the architecture of segregation that he saw in the West Bank and Gaza was "infinitely worse than apartheid." That was in 2007, before Israel began its full-scale war against the open-air prison that is Gaza."

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Hoodeet
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Does anyone have any realistic suggestion as to how to tackle the two most lucrative sectors  of Israel's economy (tourism and arms/technology), which would seem to be hard to crack? 

 Is there an effective campaign to challenge and refute the mainstream media figures who support Israel-right-or-wrong? (I mean demos, massive email campaigns, pickets) 

 Thinking of the Argentine "escrache":  an effective tool to smoke out former torturers enjoying impunity in their homes and places of business - graffiti, spontaneous demo, pickets, lots of noise and publicity.  Personalize the protest.

Re. boycott/sanctions hurting the weakest in a society:  I believe that is the case (e.g., Cuba, Zimbabwe, South Africa), and I would support it with a heavy heart,  but in this case it would always be a token gesture because the Diaspora will keep on pouring millions into Israel, so I wouldn't worry excessively about the little Israeli children suffering hunger and want from a boycott. 

 

 


Unionist
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Well, I'm flattered that Naomi Klein has come out in support of my call. Smile

 


Cueball
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Note Klein's clear insight on this popular riddlers quip:

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3. Why single out Israel when the United States, Britain and other Western countries do the same things in Iraq and Afghanistan? Boycott is not a dogma; it is a tactic. The reason the BDS strategy should be tried against Israel is practical: in a country so small and trade-dependent, it could actually work.


Maysie
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Letter of support from Canadian Union of Postal Workers
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JANUARY 7TH, 2009

The Right Honourable Stephan Harper
Prime Minister of Canada
Office of the Prime Minister
80 Wellington street.
Ottawa, On K1A 0A2


Re: Middle East crisis

On behalf of the 56,000 members of the Canadian Union of Postal Workers, I am writing to demand that the Canadian government condemn the military assault on the people of Gaza that the state of Israel commenced on December 26th, 2008.

Canada must also call for a cessation of the ongoing Israeli siege of Gaza, which has resulted in the collective punishment of the entire Gaza population.

Canada must also address the root cause of the violence: Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories.

Israel's current actions are totally out of proportion with any notion of self-defense. Israel's actions are resulting in the massacre of people in Gaza.

Israel's action will not bring peace to the region. they will result in Israel being less secure.

Professor Richard Falk, the UN's Special Rapporteur for Human Rights in the Occupied territories, has characterized the Israeli offensive as containing "...severe and massive violations of international humanitarian law as defined in the Geneva Conventions, both in regards to the obligations of an occupying power and in the requirements of the laws of war."

CUPW strongly urges the Canadian government to condemn the serious violations of humanitarian and international law by the state of Israel.

The Israeli Government's siege and military incursions into Gaza are not isolated events. It is a direct result of Israel's ongoing occupation of Palestine and the refusal of the Israeli government to abide by numerous United Nations security council resolutions.

Therefore, as a longer term strategy, the Canadian Union of Postal Workers is asking your government to adopt a program of boycott, divestment and sanctions until Israel recognizes the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination and complies with international law, including the rights of palestinian refugees to return to their homes as stipulated in UN resolution 194.

Yours truly,

Denis Lemelin
National President

cc.
Michael Ignatieff, Liberal Leader
Jack Layton, NDP Leader
Gilles Duceppe, Bloc Quebecois Leader
National Executive Board
Locals
Ken Georgetti, Canadian Labor Congress


Unionist
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Thanks, Maysie! I'm re-posting this in my other thread dedicated to such items.

Hoodeet
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The European Union exports over 500 million euros in weaponry.

France is No. 1.

Sweden is currently not exporting.

All individual country sales are supposed to be justified and cleared in Brussels, but there are loopholes. 
A Spanish-language website (rebelion.org) Jan 10 ran an article on this.

Anyone know of English-language sources?

Anyone know of Canadian exports to Israel?  This should be a logical target for the boycott and divestment (Canadian companies doing business with Israel).

Anyone have any ideas about tackling essential arms exports to Israel ?

Anyone know the best way(s) to deal with tourism?


Maysie
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Unionist, I forgot about that other thread, thanks for re-posting it.

Makwa
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Slumberjack wrote:

 

If Israeli's suffer as a result of economic sanctions, they have already proven time and time again they are capable and quite willing to bring down devastating catastrophy upon the defenceless for far less provocation.

Isn't that otherwise known as a hostage taking or kidnapping?

 

 

 


M. Spector
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Hoodeet wrote:

Anyone know of Canadian exports to Israel?  This should be a logical target for the boycott and divestment (Canadian companies doing business with Israel).

You'll find information here.


saga
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M. Spector wrote:
Hoodeet wrote:

Anyone know of Canadian exports to Israel? This should be a logical target for the boycott and divestment (Canadian companies doing business with Israel).

You'll find information here.

Great info re war industries in Canada exporting to Israel !

1993-2002

Anybody know of an update ?

It only lists Libs and Cons. Is that it?

 


M. Spector
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There are also concerns that sales to the United States aren't tracked and that most Canadian-made military goods cross the border without requiring export permits, owing to an agreement between the two countries signed in the 1940s.

"I think there's a huge loophole in the export controls," said [Janice] Stein, of the University of Toronto. "The export licensing requirements for what we sell to the United States are so minimal that it is possible that if some of that equipment moves to third parties, we would never know."

Source

Canada's biggest arms customer is the USA, and Israel is the USA's biggest arms customer. Undoubtedly there is a great deal of Canadian war materiel going to Israel via the USA, with no records or controls.

 

 


saga
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Sunday, January 11, 2009 Mark Regev shut up by Alex Thompson

here

You can turn off the music at the top right, next to the moving banner.

The banner contains names of companies doing business in Israel that can be boycotted/picketed, etc.

Here they are from the banner link:

http://inminds.co.uk/boycott-israel.php

 

I think it's critical that a credible Canadian body come forward with a list for Canadians to boycott effectively. Even those not actively involved may stay away from those places if the word gets out strongly enough.


Also, I got this info from a link provided above here" rel="nofollow">http://www.rabble.ca/comment/977957/M-Spector-wrote-Hoodeet

and I thought it might be useful to anyone organizing pickets, news releases about boycotts, etc:

Military Contractor’s Disclosed

Donations to Canadian Political Parties, 1993-2002

Corporation Totals

Total 7,924,185

Bombardier Inc Dorval 1,347,656

SNC - Lavalin Montréal 1,063,780

Magna International Metro Toronto 438,909

Pratt & Whitney Cda. Longueuil 401,793

Spar Aerospace Ste. Anne de Bellevue 310,098

Atco Ltd. Calgary 299,016

DuPont Cda. Inc. Mississauga 256,459

Nortel Networks Corp Ottawa 204,045

Canadian General Electric Mississauga 197,476

Rio Algom Ltd Toronto 182,961

Suncor Energy Inc Calgary 170,242

MDS Aero Support Ottawa 168,633

Inco Ltd Toronto 132,883

Stelco Inc Hamilton 128,464

MacDonald Dettwiler Richmond 128,246

Cameco Corp Saskatoon 109,304

AMEC Inc. Oakville 102,684

Rockwell Int’l. of Cda. Ottawa 96,708

General Motors Cda, Diesel Div. London 94,805

 

There are more, but these are the top ones.

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Oops! Sorry about the bandwidth. I thought I was copying just the names ... posted ... doorbell rang ... didn't check ... fixed now.

 


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laine lowe
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From AdBusters:

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Enough. Boycott Israel

Is it time we organized a broad campaign to boycott, divest and sanction Israel?

...

Naomi Klein’s assessment resonates with many people who are terribly upset by the injustice they see happening in Gaza. Now is the time that we should collectively act to simultaneously reject consumerism and the war in Gaza. Getting involved is easy:

First, visit the Boycott Israeli Goods website and begin actively refusing to buy any product made in Israel. You can also download a comprehensive guide of Israeli products.

Naomi Klein’s assessment resonates with many people who are terribly upset by the injustice they see happening in Gaza. Now is the time that we should collectively act to simultaneously reject consumerism and the war in Gaza. Getting involved is easy:

First, visit the Boycott Israeli Goods website and begin actively refusing to buy any product made in Israel. You can also download a comprehensive guide of Israeli products....

http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/rethink_capitalism_blog/enough_boycott_is...

 

 


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Quebec Professors and University Employees Call for Boycott

Over 80 professors and employees at colleges and universities in Quebec have signed a petition calling for a comprehensive campaign of boycott, divestment and sanctions, including a boycott of Israeli academic institutions. Below is the open letter that they have issued.

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We are a group of teachers and employees at Quebec colleges and universities who stand in solidarity with the Palestinian people, and with the people of Gaza who have suffered through the Israeli siege as targets of Israel's brutal military attack. It will take more than ceasefires to bring a just and lasting peace in Palestine and Israel. We are acting in response to an appeal for support issued January 2, 2009 by the Palestinian Federation of Unions of University Professors and Employees. In the wake of the Israeli bombing of the Islamic University of Gaza, the Federation of Unions has urged academics around the world to support a boycott of Israeli academic institutions.

We support this call and place it within a wider campaign of boycott, divestment, and sanctions. The struggle against apartheid in South Africa was supported through boycotts, divestment, and sanctions. We support a similar strategy against the Israeli state.

We will undertake actions within our own institutions to promote education on this issue, to support students, faculty, and employees to speak out on this question, and to pressure the institutions in which we work to participate in a boycott, divestment, and sanctions campaign that aims for a just and lasting settlement for the Palestinian people.

We strongly condemn the government of Canada's position on the ongoing conflict in Gaza and for its bilateral trade agreements that help sustain Israeli military actions. The Harper government has condemned Hamas, an elected government, as a terrorist organization. Yet it consistently supports the government of Israel, which has used weapons causing mass destruction on a mainly civilian population, including attacks on children and schools, and has violated International prohibitions against collective punishment through its blockade of the Gaza strip.

We call on the Harper government to re-evaluate its policies and to unequivocally condemn the Israeli siege and assault on Gaza, which constitute serious violations of international and humanitarian law. We further demand that the Israeli government immediately cease its violence.

As well, we urge that all economic relations between Israel and the governments of Canada and Quebec - including trade agreements - be suspended until there is not only a just and lasting peace for the Palestinian people, but that Israel, in compliance with international law, recognizes the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination.

Brian Aboud, Vanier College
Sajida S. Alvi, McGill University
Rachad Antonius, Université du Québec à Montréal
Sima Aprahamian, Concordia University
David Austin, Concordia University
Gregory Baum, McGill University
Rachel Berger, Concordia University
Martin Blanchard, Université de Montréal
James (Jay) Brophy, McGill University
Peter Button, McGill University
Joel Casseus, Vanier College
Jean Chapman, Concordia University
Dolores Chew, Marianopolis College
Jennifer Chew, McGill University
Aziz Choudry, McGill University
Jocelyne Couture, Université du Québec à Montréal
Mary Ellen Davis, Concordia University
Caroline Desbiens, Université Laval
Martin Duckworth, Concordia University
Maurice Dufour, Marianopolis College
Arwen Fleming, McGill University
Roy Fu, John Abbott College
Monika Kin Gagnon, Concordia University
S. Gourlay, Concordia University
Wael B. Hallaq, McGill University
Jill Hanley, McGill University
Michelle Hartman, McGill University
Sumi Hasegawa, McGill University
Oscar Hernandez, Marianopolis College
Christina Holcroft, McGill University
Homa Hoodfar, Concordia University
Helen Hudson, McGill University
Adrienne Carey Hurley, McGill University
Andrew M. Ivaska, Concordia University
Sandra Jeppesen, Concordia University
Yasmin Jiwani, Concordia University
Steven Jordan, McGill University
Denis Kosseim, Cégep André-Laurendeau
Anna Kruzynski, Concordia University
Marc Lafrance, Concordia University
Thomas LaMarre, McGill University
Diane Lamoureux, Université Laval
Andrée Lévesque, McGill University
Charmain Levy, Université du Québec en Outaouais
Abby Lippman, McGIll University
Margaret Lock, McGill University
Richard Lock, Vanier College
Ehab Lotayef, McGill University
Gada Mahrouse, Concordia University
Chantal Maillé, Concordia University
David Mandel, Université du Québec à Montréal
Rosanna Maule, Concordia University
Mark Patrick McGuire, John Abbott College
Elizabeth Miller, Concordia University
L. Monet, Université de Montréal
Norman Nawrocki, Concordia University
Holly Nazar, McGill University
Devora Neumark, Concordia University
Greg Nielsen, Concordia University
Kai Nielsen, Concordia University
Marielle Nitoslawska, Concordia University
Samuel J Noumoff, McGill University
Marielle Olivier, McGill University
Anthony Paré, McGill University
Andrew Pearce, McGill University
James Pettit, Marianopolis College
Veronica Ponce, Marianopolis College
Najat Rahman, Université de Montréal
Frances Ravensbergen, Concordia University
Trish Salah, Bishop's and Concordia Universities
Daniel Salée, Concordia University
Kim Sawchuk, Concordia University
Gale Seiler, McGill University
Eric Shragge, Concordia University
Lee Soderstrom, McGill University
Martha Stiegman, Concordia University
Miwako Uesaka, McGill University
Indu Vashist, McGill University
Julian Vigo, Université de Montréal
Sarwat Viqar, John Abbott College
Nadia Wardeh, McGill University
Thomas Waugh, Concordia University

 Source.


josh
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In the wake of Operation Cast Lead, a group of American university professors has for the first time launched a national campaign calling for an academic and cultural boycott of Israel.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1059775.html


M. Spector
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Here's the actual appeal for an academic and cultural boycott:

 

We stand in support of the indigenous Palestinian people in Gaza, who are fighting for their survival against one of the most brutal uses of state power in both this century and the last.

We condemn Israel’s recent (December 2008/ January 2009) breaches of international law in the Gaza Strip, which include the bombing of densely-populated neighborhoods, illegal deployment of the chemical white phosphorous, and attacks on schools, ambulances, relief agencies, hospitals, universities, and places of worship. We condemn Israel’s restriction of access to media and aid workers.

We reject as false Israel’s characterization of its military attacks on Gaza as retaliation. Israel’s latest assault on Gaza is part of its longtime racist jurisprudence against its indigenous Palestinian population, during which the Israeli state has systematically dispossessed, starved, tortured, and economically exploited the Palestinian people.

We reject as untrue the Israeli government’s claims that the Palestinians use civilians as human shields, and that Hamas is an irredeemable terrorist organization. Without endorsing its platforms or philosophy, we recognize Hamas as a democratically elected ruling party. We do not endorse the regime of any existing Arab state, and call for the upholding of internationally mandated human rights and democratic elections in all Arab states.

We call upon our fellow writers and academics in the United States to question discourses that justify and rationalize injustice, and to address Israeli assaults on civilians in Gaza as one of the most important moral issues of our time.

We call upon institutions of higher education in the U.S. to cut ties with Israeli academic institutions, dissolve study abroad programs in Israel, and divest institutional funds from Israeli companies, using the 1980s boycott against apartheid South Africa as a model.

We call on all people of conscience to join us in boycotting Israeli products and institutions until a just, democratic state for all residents of Palestine/Israel comes into existence.

Mohammed Abed
Elmaz Abinader
Diana Abu-Jaber
Ali Abunimah
Opal Palmer Adisa
Deborah Al-Najjar
Evelyn Azeeza Alsultany
Amina Baraka
Amiri Baraka
George Bisharat
Sherwin Bitsui
Breyten Breytenbach
Van Brock
Hayan Charara
Allison Hedge Coke
Lara Deeb
Vicente Diaz
Marilyn Hacker
Mechthild Hart
Sam Hamill
Randa Jarrar
Fady Joudah
Mohja Kahf
Rima Najjar Kapitan
Persis Karim
J. Kehaulani Kauanui
Haunani Kay-Trask
David Lloyd
Sunaina Maira
Nur Masalha
Khaled Mattawa
Daniel AbdalHayy Moore
Aileen Moreton-Robinson
Nadine Naber
Marcy Newman
Viet Nguyen
Simon J. Ortiz
Vijay Prashad
Steven Salaita
Therese Saliba
Sarita See
Deema Shehabi
Matthew Shenoda
Naomi Shihab Nye
Magid Shihade
Vandana Shiva
Noenoe Silva
Andrea Smith
Ahdaf Soueif
Ghada Talhami
Frank X. Walker
Robert Warrior


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Here's the home page of the U.S. Campaign for the Academic & Cultural Boycott of Israel.

 

ETA: Thanks, M. Spector. In fact, I forgot to use my own trick of cutting the entire text and re-pasting back with the T icon.

 

 

 


M. Spector
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Unionist wrote:

Here's the home page of the U.S. Campaign for the Academic & Cultural Boycott of Israel.

ETA: What the hell have the web people been doing? My colour tags don't work any more... Is it not possible for them to be a little more transparent and announce changes as they effect them?????

There was a hidden problem with your coding. I don't know what it was, but I solved it in the above quote by "Cutting" the first sentence and then "Pasting" it back in, using the "T" button below the Comment box. That stripped out the hidden formatting codes that were interfering with your coding instructions.


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Not quite a "boycott", but maybe even better:

Fans banned from Israel's Davis Cup tie in Malmo

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Instead of 4,000 noisy tennis spectators brought up on memories of Bjorn Borg and Stefan Edberg's on-court exploits in the Davis Cup, it now looks close to certain that Sweden's tie against Israel on Friday will go ahead in silence before just a handful of journalists and officials.

After a last-ditch attempt to switch the tennis match to Stockholm failed because of lack of time, spectators will be banned from the venue in Malmo for fear of anti-Israel protests. Ongoing attempts yesterday by Swedish tennis authorities and Davis Cup organisers decision to get the contentious decision reversed are considered unlikely to succeed.

The move by Malmo local authorities, overturning an earlier decision by the city's police force to allow the tie to go ahead in front of paying fans, has raised fears that the recent attacks on Gaza will continue to have ramifications for global sport and could set a worrying precedent.

 


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Are you applauding this, unionist? I find it appalling that a fucking tennis match is not even safe because of the antionality of some players.

A couple weeks back, a tennis tournament in Dubai barred an Israeli player from entering the country to compete solely based on her nationality. Thankfully, decent people like Andy Roddick refused to play in the tournament and the Tennis Network (that I subscribe to) refsued to broadcast it despite the millions in ad dollars they would lose. The tournament will be dropped from the tour next year. Glad to see my tennis community once again standing for what's right.


Star Spangled C...
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Are you applauding this, unionist? I find it appalling that a fucking tennis match is not even safe because of the antionality of some players.

A couple weeks back, a tennis tournament in Dubai barred an Israeli player from entering the country to compete solely based on her nationality. Thankfully, decent people like Andy Roddick refused to play in the tournament and the Tennis Network (that I subscribe to) refsued to broadcast it despite the millions in ad dollars they would lose. The tournament will be dropped from the tour next year. Glad to see my tennis community once again standing for what's right.


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If a tennis match isn't even safe, what's next? Hospitals, schools and universities bombed in our own backyard?

ETA: apparently babble has boycotted unionist's posts, since his original post has been eaten by the new babble length-censor. You can still read it if you 'quote' his post, though. Only the truly devout shall be rewarded.


Star Spangled C...
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Or who knows, catchfire? Maybe city buses or pizza parlors or yeshivas full of students? What's your point? Because the Israeli government engages in objectionable actions, it's acceptable to discriminate against an israeli woman solely because of her nationality?

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Star Spangled Canadian wrote:

Are you applauding this, unionist?

Yes, indeed I am, why do you think I posted it?

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I find it appalling that a fucking tennis match is not even safe because of the antionality of some players.

 "Not even safe" is your creative concoction. The problem was fear of "anti-Israel protests". We know that Israelis are not accustomed to the freedom of assembly and speech, but to call this "unsafe" is a bit of an exaggeration. At worst, their eardrums might have burst and their minds and hearts might have opened up a bit.

In Israel, Gaza, the West Bank, Golan, Lebanon, however, we see real situations that are (to use your amusing words) "not even safe because of the nationality of some players". Playing in a schoolyard while Palestinian is definitely unsafe.

But I do feel sorry for your poor poor tennis players. Imagine the suffering. Think of their families. Their children. 


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