Brian White
rabble-rouser-machine
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Joined: Jan 26 2005

 I think most of the resistance is knee jerk. Remember that Carole James claims to support MMP PR. You really support it, make it part of your platform.

 The cure for NDP twin personality disorder is to remove one of the personalities. People are much more likely to vote for you at all levels if you are consistant. If the provincials are saying "fuck the federal ideals, cos it does not suit us today"  it does not bring good optics. You understimate the power of idealism.  The poor voters, (the ones you depend on more than the other parties do) will just see you as just another shower of self serving bastards if you do not live up to your ideals.  And it takes very little to make a poor voter stay at home on election day.

 All sections of the NDP should support Pro Rep. Because it is fairer than first past the post. You have one side of the NDP being good and moral and another side trying to undo what the good ones are trying to build.

The federal NDP also needs to design a fair MMP system to put to the people federally (and provincially if they wish).  I know Wilf would be happy to help.  There are many MMP systems out there and it hinders their adoption because some are good and some bad . 

Currently the NDP can work at the attack ads on iggie. I am in favour. But thats half of it.  Making themselves more consistant and proclaiming themselves as the party for managing the government as opposed to the corporate raders of the other partys would pay dividends too.  

the grey wrote:
Brian White wrote:

 Pro rep IS NDP policy. The NDP  should be one national party, very short term local interests should not thrump the long term national interest.

 

I think, Brian, that some of the resistance to your position generally is that this comment misrepresents the structure and functioning of the NDP.  It suggests that the provincial NDP (here the BC NDP) should somehow submit to the federal NDP, rather than that the provincial parties exists as co-equals with the federal party.

It is entirely appropriate for individual MPs to comment on political issues facing the provincial parties.  While it would be acceptable for the federal leader to also comment, I would suggest that there are more important things upon which the federal leader should focus his attention.


Should Layton call on BC NDP voters to support Pro Rep in the upcoming referendum? By: Brian White (107 replies) January 29, 2009 - 11:20pm
  • Naci_Sey wrote:The NDP is By: Fidel (Feb 6 2009 - 12:30am)
  • As far as I can gather from By: Wilf Day (Feb 8 2009 - 12:52am)
  • Naci_Sey wrote: Had MMP been By: Peter3 (Feb 5 2009 - 11:48pm)
  • Don't think that's clear at By: Naci_Sey (Feb 5 2009 - 11:20pm)
  • So Carole James is not By: NorthReport (Feb 5 2009 - 10:20pm)
  • A complete answer. Did you By: Naci_Sey (Feb 5 2009 - 10:00pm)
  • I'm curious what answer By: Fartful Codger (Feb 5 2009 - 9:51pm)
  • From a blog post I wrote By: Naci_Sey (Feb 5 2009 - 9:33pm)
  • It is kinda funny that By: Brian White (Feb 5 2009 - 9:07pm)
  • Re: Should Layton call on BC NDP voters to support Pro Rep in th By: V. Jara (Feb 3 2009 - 3:49am)
  • theleftyinvestor wrote: By: Wilf Day (Feb 3 2009 - 12:12am)
  • I think the trouble is that By: theleftyinvestor (Feb 1 2009 - 1:11pm)
  • Peter3 wrote:I'm curious By: Wilf Day (Jan 31 2009 - 11:13pm)
  • Peter3 wrote:It is not By: Naci_Sey (Jan 31 2009 - 9:44pm)
  • When Ontario had its By: Peter3 (Jan 31 2009 - 8:48pm)
  • Am a BC resident and have By: Naci_Sey (Jan 31 2009 - 8:12pm)
  • remind wrote:No, it is none By: scott (Jan 31 2009 - 7:33pm)
  • Which some people can't By: Coyote (Jan 31 2009 - 7:01pm)
  • No, it is none of the By: remind (Jan 31 2009 - 6:23pm)
  •  I think most of the By: Brian White (Jan 31 2009 - 5:52pm)
  • Wilf Day wrote:I don't know By: scott (Jan 31 2009 - 6:51pm)
  • I don't know whether Layton By: Wilf Day (Jan 31 2009 - 3:51pm)
  • Re: Should Layton call on BC NDP voters to support Pro Rep in th By: munroe (Jan 31 2009 - 3:45pm)
  • Brian White wrote:  Pro rep By: the grey (Jan 31 2009 - 1:52pm)
  • Re: Should Layton call on BC NDP voters to support Pro Rep in th By: Stockholm (Jan 31 2009 - 12:35pm)
  • Some people cite Tommy By: Ken Burch (Jan 31 2009 - 5:05am)
  • What is the NDP "in By: Coyote (Jan 30 2009 - 11:16pm)
  • Actually  Pro Rep is By: Brian White (Jan 30 2009 - 10:22pm)
  • V. Jara wrote:I think it By: Brian White (Jan 30 2009 - 10:17pm)
  • I think it would be an By: V. Jara (Jan 30 2009 - 4:23am)
  • The federal party is By: Coyote (Jan 30 2009 - 2:32am)
  •  So they are not allowed to By: Brian White (Jan 30 2009 - 1:55am)
  • Has anyone seen By: NorthReport (Jan 30 2009 - 1:16am)
  • The provincial sections are By: Coyote (Jan 30 2009 - 1:04am)
  • Brian White wrote:  That By: jasonJ2 (Jan 30 2009 - 12:35am)