Make the case for one Ontario School System By: wage zombie (123 replies) February 10, 2009 - 12:16amFidel, your use of "public By: M. Spector (Feb 10 2009 - 6:53pm) It is about dollars. This is By: Fidel (Feb 10 2009 - 6:45pm) wage zombie wrote:One cost By: Unionist (Feb 10 2009 - 6:35pm) Straw man much? Cost does By: wage zombie (Feb 10 2009 - 6:03pm) wage zombie wrote:The better By: Unionist (Feb 10 2009 - 5:34pm) M. Spector wrote: The By: Fidel (Feb 10 2009 - 5:24pm) M. Spector wrote:What better By: wage zombie (Feb 10 2009 - 4:53pm) Lord Palmerston wrote:And in By: Fidel (Feb 10 2009 - 2:56pm) I support the consolidation By: janfromthebruce (Feb 10 2009 - 2:53pm) Re: Make the case for one Ontario School System By: Lord Palmerston (Feb 10 2009 - 2:43pm) One school system to save us By: Fidel (Feb 10 2009 - 1:39pm) Bookish Agrarian wrote: By: Unionist (Feb 10 2009 - 1:27pm) Bookish Agrarian By: Lord Palmerston (Feb 10 2009 - 1:30pm) wage zombie wrote: These By: M. Spector (Feb 10 2009 - 12:04pm) 71,000 Ontarians lost their By: Bookish Agrarian (Feb 10 2009 - 9:17am) It's good to see the citizen By: wage zombie (Feb 10 2009 - 5:31am) The socialist case for one By: M. Spector (Feb 10 2009 - 4:19am) Quote:As politically astute By: M. Spector (Feb 10 2009 - 4:01am) I haven't read the previous By: saga (Feb 10 2009 - 3:57am) Canadian Civil Liberties By: M. Spector (Feb 10 2009 - 3:54am) No need to yell, I would By: RevolutionPlease (Feb 10 2009 - 2:02am) The NDP doesnt have to do By: Fidel (Feb 10 2009 - 1:28am) This school issue, and I By: NorthReport (Feb 10 2009 - 1:21am) Re: Make the case for one Ontario School System By: RevolutionPlease (Feb 10 2009 - 12:59am) NorthReport wrote: Maybe not By: Fidel (Feb 10 2009 - 12:59am) NorthReport wrote: Maybe not By: RevolutionPlease (Feb 10 2009 - 12:58am) Re: Make the case for one Ontario School System By: Unionist (Feb 10 2009 - 12:48am) Lord Palmerston By: Fidel (Feb 10 2009 - 12:47am) Maybe not supporting one By: NorthReport (Feb 10 2009 - 12:45am) Re: Make the case for one Ontario School System By: Doug (Feb 10 2009 - 12:42am) Unionist wrote: Is there a By: RevolutionPlease (Feb 10 2009 - 12:41am) Is there a way to discuss By: Unionist (Feb 10 2009 - 12:36am) Re: Make the case for one Ontario School System By: Lord Palmerston (Feb 10 2009 - 12:35am) I think one or both old line By: Fidel (Feb 10 2009 - 12:32am) This letter to Kathleen By: Lord Palmerston (Feb 10 2009 - 12:27am)
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Canadian Civil Liberties Association brief on the public funding of religious schools, September 21, 2007 [Executive Summary]:
• Public funding of religious schools could weaken the public school system and undermine its contributions to the vitality of our democracy.
• Having opened its doors to everyone, regardless of wealth, status, race, religion, and ethnicity, the public school system has performed an integrative and unifying function for Ontario society.
• Within living memory, this country jailed thousands of innocent Japanese Canadians, denied many aboriginal people the right to vote, restricted immigration from developing countries, and turned back Jewish refugees from Hitler's Germany. There is no reason to believe such behaviour could never again be possible.
• Our community must work to shore up our integrative institutions. One of the most important of these is the public schools.
• If the funding proposal goes ahead, public schools could lose significant numbers of students to the religious schools. If this were to happen, the public schools would no longer be able to perform their integrative role. In time, our community could become a much less tolerant place.
• In the event of such public funding, there may well be no legitimate or effective way to control any hateful or discriminatory messages espoused by particular religious schools. Although our democracy may defend the right of any group to hold and attempt to spread such views, it is repugnant for the public purse to subsidize the exercise.
• The impetus to inspect, monitor, and control religious programs in schools would raise thorny questions about government intervention in religious affairs.
• The sheer costs of funding many religious schools would likely reduce the quality of the entire educational system.
• Contrary to the arguments of some, the current public funding of Catholic schools cannot justify the critical risks associated with the proposal to fund more religious schools.
• A constitutional amendment should be enacted to end the anomaly of public financing for Catholic schools.
Accordingly, the Canadian Civil Liberties Association recommends as follows:
(1) At a minimum, there should be no new public funding of any religious schools and
(2) A constitutional amendment should be enacted to terminate the public funding of Catholic schools.
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