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Invariably, one of the main challenges facing us when we attempt to create a mass organization based on the principles of class struggle, whether it be a coalition, or a party, is how to achieve sufficient mass. Regardless of the politics of such an organization, if it does not achieve sufficient mass, it becomes just another small, far left group that provides in-services for the left.

To use an example, the IS has, for a while now, devoted most of its energies to the war resisters campaign. I would argue that much of this effort has been wasted. However, it has been wasted not because asylum for war resisters is in any way an undesirable or irrelevant goal (quite the opposite, it is an important cause, and would be a desirable victory). Rather, much of  the effort has been wasted because there have not been large enough mass mobilisations on this issue to actually force the Conservatives to implement the parliamentary resolution calling on the government to grant asylum for US war resisters.

 

RosaL wrote:
Unionist wrote:

Ok, RosaL, I'll bite. Take the IS and the CPC. Can you give me one, or two, or three big reasons why they are separate organizations? Be patient with me, because I know nothing about them.

Big reasons. Reasons that ordinary people can understand.

The only reason I know of is this: past history. (People in the Trotskyist tradition still use the word "stalinist" pretty freely!) As far as I'm concerned, there is no good reason. 

 

To take a recent example, the CPC supported the NDP-Liberal coalition (they have supported a coalition with the Liberals since 1935, when Stalin mandated that all official Communist parties adopt a "common front" policy). The IS opposed the coalition, their primary stated reason being that they opposed the NDP dropping any opposition to the Afghanistan war. Big Difference.

Another substantive difference is that the CPC supports the FARC in Columbia, while the IS does not. As far as I know, the CPC is the only Communist/Marxist group in Canada that supports the FARC.


Should the left split from the NDP? (Part 2) By: Jacob Richter (119 replies) January 2, 2009 - 1:21am
  • Do these parties even have By: genstrike (Feb 19 2009 - 5:37pm)
  • Re: Should the left split from the NDP? (Part 2) By: Olly (Feb 19 2009 - 3:17pm)
  • Unionist wrote:Ok, RosaL, By: RosaL (Feb 19 2009 - 1:24pm)
  • Ok, RosaL, I'll bite. Take By: Unionist (Feb 19 2009 - 1:16pm)
  • Unionist wrote:I spend no By: RosaL (Feb 19 2009 - 12:46pm)
  • RosaL wrote:Unless you spend By: Unionist (Feb 19 2009 - 12:23pm)
  • Coyote wrote:There are - as By: RosaL (Feb 19 2009 - 12:19pm)
  • skarredmunkey By: RosaL (Feb 19 2009 - 11:55am)
  • skarredmunkey wrote: By: Jacob Richter (Feb 18 2009 - 11:23pm)
  • Quote:And that is the By: skarredmunkey (Feb 18 2009 - 11:09pm)
  • Quote:Are you another Tory By: skarredmunkey (Feb 18 2009 - 11:01pm)
  • Re: Should the left split from the NDP? (Part 2) By: Coyote (Feb 18 2009 - 10:46pm)
  • In what sense? By: Jacob Richter (Feb 18 2009 - 10:42pm)
  • Well, if you believe "has By: Coyote (Feb 18 2009 - 10:39pm)
  • Pogo wrote: The Communist By: Jacob Richter (Feb 18 2009 - 10:41pm)
  • Re: Should the left split from the NDP? (Part 2) By: Coyote (Feb 18 2009 - 9:59pm)
  • RosaL wrote: An end to By: Doug (Feb 18 2009 - 5:38pm)
  • Ok-- I don't expect an end By: Sean in Ottawa (Feb 18 2009 - 5:10pm)
  • Sean in Ottawa wrote:What do By: RosaL (Feb 18 2009 - 3:42pm)
  • Re: Should the left split from the NDP? (Part 2) By: Sean in Ottawa (Feb 18 2009 - 3:39pm)
  • Sean in Ottawa wrote:If you By: RosaL (Feb 18 2009 - 3:41pm)
  • If you can't enter the NDP By: Sean in Ottawa (Feb 18 2009 - 3:34pm)
  • Pogo wrote:The Communist By: RosaL (Feb 18 2009 - 3:34pm)
  • The Communist Party (in By: Pogo (Feb 18 2009 - 1:47pm)
  • "Given the surge in the By: George Victor (Feb 18 2009 - 12:40pm)
  • Re: Should the left split from the NDP? (Part 2) By: Caissa (Feb 18 2009 - 8:25am)
  • Are you another Tory or By: Jacob Richter (Feb 18 2009 - 12:53am)
  • Jacob Richter wrote:Should By: skarredmunkey (Feb 18 2009 - 12:23am)
  • keglerdave wrote:  But I'm By: madmax (Feb 17 2009 - 10:44am)
  • Re: Should the left split from the NDP? (Part 2) By: Stockholm (Feb 17 2009 - 10:14am)
  • Re: Should the left split from the NDP? (Part 2) By: Caissa (Feb 17 2009 - 10:08am)
  • Re: Should the left split from the NDP? (Part 2) By: Stockholm (Feb 17 2009 - 10:00am)
  • I'll agree with what RosaL By: Lard Tunderin' Jeezus (Feb 17 2009 - 9:16am)
  • Well, I've said it before By: RosaL (Jan 2 2009 - 10:21am)
  • Jacob: I guess you have By: keglerdave (Jan 2 2009 - 1:59am)