melovesproles
rabble-rouser
Member: 9868
Joined: Apr 15 2005

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That has nothing to do with which party people want to govern the province. If the referendum passes, BC will have STV - regardless of who wins the election.

True, where it will matter is if we have a similar result as the last referendum with a clear majority and far more support for STV than the government yet still short of the 60% threshhold. In that case, the best result will be a strong showing for the Greens and a dissapointing result for the NDP since parties only seem capable of acting in their own self interest. The BC NDP's "neutral" position right now is that my vote in the referendum is worth less than someone who supports the status quo.

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...and NO "unswerving support" for PR does NOT mean that the leader of a fringe party should be in a leaders debate. Its a different issue and you are really stretching things to say that because hypothetically under some PR models the green party MIGHT have elected some MPs - their leader should be in the debate is absurd. The debate about electoral reform is about election systems - not about who gets invited to a leaders debate.

Well, you and other NDP partisans clearly saw it that way, the public not so much.

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The Liberals went out of their way to suck up to EMay and her merry band of amateurs and they made a big deal about wanting her in the debate - doesn't seem to me that this did the Liberals any good the election since they had their worst result in over 100 years.

The Liberals had no credibility on electoral reform to lose or grow so its a completely different situation. And the NDP was forced into a 180 after days of being off message and looking like part of the old boys club. You are entitled to your opinion that this was a smart play....


Should Layton call on BC NDP voters to support Pro Rep in the upcoming referendum? By: Brian White (107 replies) January 29, 2009 - 11:20pm
  • Naci_Sey wrote:The NDP is By: Fidel (Feb 6 2009 - 12:30am)
  • As far as I can gather from By: Wilf Day (Feb 8 2009 - 12:52am)
  • Naci_Sey wrote: Had MMP been By: Peter3 (Feb 5 2009 - 11:48pm)
  • Don't think that's clear at By: Naci_Sey (Feb 5 2009 - 11:20pm)
  • So Carole James is not By: NorthReport (Feb 5 2009 - 10:20pm)
  • A complete answer. Did you By: Naci_Sey (Feb 5 2009 - 10:00pm)
  • I'm curious what answer By: Fartful Codger (Feb 5 2009 - 9:51pm)
  • From a blog post I wrote By: Naci_Sey (Feb 5 2009 - 9:33pm)
  • It is kinda funny that By: Brian White (Feb 5 2009 - 9:07pm)
  • Re: Should Layton call on BC NDP voters to support Pro Rep in th By: V. Jara (Feb 3 2009 - 3:49am)
  • theleftyinvestor wrote: By: Wilf Day (Feb 3 2009 - 12:12am)
  • I think the trouble is that By: theleftyinvestor (Feb 1 2009 - 1:11pm)
  • Peter3 wrote:I'm curious By: Wilf Day (Jan 31 2009 - 11:13pm)
  • Peter3 wrote:It is not By: Naci_Sey (Jan 31 2009 - 9:44pm)
  • When Ontario had its By: Peter3 (Jan 31 2009 - 8:48pm)
  • Am a BC resident and have By: Naci_Sey (Jan 31 2009 - 8:12pm)
  • remind wrote:No, it is none By: scott (Jan 31 2009 - 7:33pm)
  • Which some people can't By: Coyote (Jan 31 2009 - 7:01pm)
  • No, it is none of the By: remind (Jan 31 2009 - 6:23pm)
  •  I think most of the By: Brian White (Jan 31 2009 - 5:52pm)
  • Wilf Day wrote:I don't know By: scott (Jan 31 2009 - 6:51pm)
  • I don't know whether Layton By: Wilf Day (Jan 31 2009 - 3:51pm)
  • Re: Should Layton call on BC NDP voters to support Pro Rep in th By: munroe (Jan 31 2009 - 3:45pm)
  • Brian White wrote:  Pro rep By: the grey (Jan 31 2009 - 1:52pm)
  • Re: Should Layton call on BC NDP voters to support Pro Rep in th By: Stockholm (Jan 31 2009 - 12:35pm)
  • Some people cite Tommy By: Ken Burch (Jan 31 2009 - 5:05am)
  • What is the NDP "in By: Coyote (Jan 30 2009 - 11:16pm)
  • Actually  Pro Rep is By: Brian White (Jan 30 2009 - 10:22pm)
  • V. Jara wrote:I think it By: Brian White (Jan 30 2009 - 10:17pm)
  • I think it would be an By: V. Jara (Jan 30 2009 - 4:23am)
  • The federal party is By: Coyote (Jan 30 2009 - 2:32am)
  •  So they are not allowed to By: Brian White (Jan 30 2009 - 1:55am)
  • Has anyone seen By: NorthReport (Jan 30 2009 - 1:16am)
  • The provincial sections are By: Coyote (Jan 30 2009 - 1:04am)
  • Brian White wrote:  That By: jasonJ2 (Jan 30 2009 - 12:35am)