# 234: Primal Mind Primal Games -- A primer

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Hifzija and Paul duking it out

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In September 2014 Lynn Thompson recorded a conversation in Ottawa Ontario with Paul LeMay and Hifzija Bajramovic at the culmination point of nine years of intense collaboration on their book entitled Primal Mind Primal Games -- Why We Do What We Do. As of September 2015, the massive book exploring more than you can imagine about the human psyche has been split into two books, the second of which, Primal Mind Primal Games -- Dawn Breaks over Armageddon will be released in early 2016.

Today's podcast is an excerpt from their full 28 minute conversation that is featured on the Meet the Author page on their website.

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