Toronto Life's Misrepresentation of Aqsa Parvez's Murder + Action

Submitted by Stargazer on November 14, 2008 - 12:39pm.

TVParkdale wrote:
Blue56 wrote:

Stargazer, I'm surprised that you won't acknowledge that religious belief does not cause violence against women. Religions have been the main cause of violence and murder for centuries. What's so radical about that statement. I do say in my post that the father is clearly demented. That doesn't mean, however, that he wasn't led to justify his act by an appeal to religion. I guess where we disagree is that you think that all cultures and beliefs are equally misogynistic, and I believe that some are more so, and some less.

All religion is used to "prop up" the priveleged. That doesn't matter whether it's used as a basis for racism, misogyny, anti-semitism, classism etc. etc on the endless scale. 

Christianity can claim "humanism" but the fact remains--read the Bible.

Buddhism? Read it. Really read it. Find any major historical women in it that commit great saintly acts and obtained Buddhahood?

They are all equally guilty or perpetrating class systems and creating a priveleged class of religious and political figures. They are all designed to have the poor 'accept their lot in life' and 'do as your leaders bid'.

No major religion says, "Fight your oppressors. Stop the cruelty. Religion exists at the sole discretion of the wealthy and is being used to keep you down. Fight those that persecute you." 

Being "less misogynist" is like being "less pregnant".

It either exists, or it does not. 

 

I think you have mistaken me for someone who gives a damn about religion. I am well aware religion is oppressive. I am well aware it preaches intolerance on our dime. Just so you know, and so I won't ever have to say this - yet again - I cannot stand organized religion. In fact, I hate it with a passion and wish it would disappear so people can stop proping up corrupt churches, mosques, synagoges, what have you. Pull it's tax exempt status and make those "who believe" pay for their own intolerance. 

 

I hope I have made myself crystal clear on the religion issue. 

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Submitted by TVParkdale on November 14, 2008 - 4:48pm.

Stargazer wrote:
TVParkdale wrote:
Blue56 wrote:

 


No major religion says, "Fight your oppressors. Stop the cruelty. Religion exists at the sole discretion of the wealthy and is being used to keep you down. Fight those that persecute you."

Being "less misogynist" is like being "less pregnant".

It either exists, or it does not.

 

I think you have mistaken me for someone who gives a damn about religion. I am well aware religion is oppressive. I am well aware it preaches intolerance on our dime. Just so you know, and so I won't ever have to say this - yet again - I cannot stand organized religion. In fact, I hate it with a passion and wish it would disappear so people can stop proping up corrupt churches, mosques, synagoges, what have you. Pull it's tax exempt status and make those "who believe" pay for their own intolerance.

 

I hope I have made myself crystal clear on the religion issue.

Stargazer, I'm replying to blue's response to you--however weirdly that works itself out in conversation and however badly I may have set up the quote system.

I too think religions should not have tax exempt status. They are fundamentally, religious corporations that purchase property etc. which is a big discussion for another thread...

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