The Man Thread

The Man's Prayer: 

I'm a man

But I can change

If I have to

I guess ...

(from The Red Green Show)

Do I have to put the seat down in here?

Depends if you wanna get laid!

oops! wrong thread! I'm outta here!

R_P ... Not only that, but you have to wash your hands when you're done!

The seat stays warmer sitting up.

This is something I don't understand.

Doesn't everyone close the whole shebang; seat, lid and all?

Anything less wouldn't be manly.

I've got elastic waistbands on today Al-Q. How did you know?

Screw elastic waistbands. I prefer suspenders!

You guys are talking about this thing right?

Thanks for explaining I have always used the one without the lid. Now I know what it is for.

I'm not old enough for suspenders yet, Boom Boom.  I'm only 45.

Wait until you get your first hernia, although I hope you never do.  

I have been given to various levels of rotundness in my life thus far:  I have never crossed the elastic waistband rubicon.  Denial?  Deffiance?  

In other wardrobe news, after decades of experimentation, from tighty whities (hopefully whities) to boxers, and briefs and comando, I have settled on the jock strap style of underwear.  Don't let the straps fool you, they are not uncomfortable, though they look it.  Particularly in the summer heat you will find this style takes sweat away from where you need sweat taken away from, leaving a major heat sink of the male body better able to shed heat and greenhouse gasses most efficiently.

A shred of fashion sense? :D

(Okay, sorry, I'll quit invading the boys' treehouse now!) ;)

I tried boxers once. Eeek! Too much freedom (this is probably the only instance in my life where I wrote "too much freedom").

Tommy is that a way of saying thong without saying thong? 

No elastic waitbands yet.  But I do like to where suspenders from time to time.  You would be surprised at how comfortable they can be.

And then he looks down and realizes he is still wearing the track pants he likes for doing farm work at this time of year.  Do they count?

You're more than welcome in the tree house, Michelle. I always wished I had a tree house as a kid. We only had forts in the woods.

Thanks Caissa, but you might want to check with the other boys before you open this place up to us yucky grils.  You might get cooties!  ;)

Actually, boxers (and boxer-briefs, drool) are kind of sexy, and they've got elastic waistbands. So I suppose there are exceptions!

"A shred of fashion sense? :D

(Okay, sorry, I'll quit invading the boys' treehouse now!) ;)"

Well,  you've seen me in both summer and winter atire.   I'm not sure you could accuse me of being too "GQ".

Now, begone, before you fem up the place.  (throws an apple core at Michelle)  

It all depends on who is wearing them Michelle.  I wear boxer briefs and I expect your reaction to seeing me in just them would not be drool.  Unless it was because you were knocked unconsious by shock and were drooling that way, or your brain was forever scarred and you could do afterwards was drool and say I vote Conservative.

"Tommy is that a way of saying thong without saying thong?" 

I forgot to mention I've tried thongs, too.  (alright, alright, stop screaming) They're kinda neat in certain situations, but they aren't something I'd wear to work, or if I was walking any distance.   Not that I think they'd rub me the wrong way (so to speak) if I did, but the mere fear of that kind of sensation in that kind of place prevents me from finding out.

No, the underwear I prefer looks like the athletic supporter you'd slip a plastic cup into for sports,  only they fit a bit more snug.

Actually, now that I think about it "thong without a thong" is a very good description.

I like to keep my boys on a short leash.

That's almost too much information even for  The Man Thread.

Geez, what is a man thread anyways?

A "man thread" is the loose thread on any piece of clothing you break off to use as dental floss at a corn roast.

I'm A-Maized, Tommy.

Boxer briefs or nothing!

Also, I kind of like suspenders, they're very comfortable, but my family would go into open rebellion. (as opposed to the sort of quiet sullen rebellion they're in now) 

Nothing like snapping my suspenders and going "yee haw!" at a down home corn roast. Now, where's that hillybilly emoticon???

Doesn't all underwear have elastic waistbands? 

Also, what's "crinoline"? 

....sneaks into the treehouse....

  Crinoline was originally a stiff fabric with a weft [30] of horse-hair [31] and a warp [32] of cotton [33] or linen [34] thread [35]. The fabric first appeared around 1830, but by 1850 the word had come to mean a stiffened petticoat [36] or rigid skirt [37]-shaped structure of steel [38] designed to support the skirts of a woman’s dress [37] into the required shape

 ------sneaks out-----------

it itches

whispers ... 

why are the men talking about crinolines?

- exit stage left

Men have to know everything about every thread.  It's an illness of ours.  Bit of a control thing I guess.

Self-admitted.

Real men just go in their backyard and compete with their neighbours dogs for territory...or so I've been told.

A good pair of gitch is like a comfortable pair of shoes.  Once they're broken in to the point where they cannot be felt anymore, I tend to hang on to them well beyond their intended lifespan.  Which reminds me to do some shopping this weekend, as several pairs have reached the point of becoming vapourized.

Whenever I find comfortable shoes I buy multiple pairs and wear them until they are no longer comfortable.

Same here. I have runners from about 1998 that are too comfortable to replace, actually.

Oh, shoes. They're wonderful. 

You don't spend much time on "YouTube" do you?   If you did, you'd know that for some reason, some very large masculine men, the type you'd associate with truck driving or working on an oil rig, just love crinoline.

I have several pairs of footware that are super comfy, but I just can't find a worthwhile replacement. I mean, for me, it shouldn't be hard trying to find shoes that are cozy in the 11 1/2-12 1/2 size range (my current walkers are size 13, which shows that the shoe industry needs to be bailed out and nationalized), but damnedable everything it is! Normally when I go to the store I can never find the actual comfy shoes in that size range, just the crappy super expensive things I never buy. So, my shoes gradually degrade and fall apart. Right now, the soles of my hiking boots are held on by super glue and string.

I think I've posted here about the problems I've had with footwear.  Previously, I've chaulked it up to my "celtic foot", and that no one seems to be making shoes for that foot patern any more.

However, I've discovered that this hasn't really been the problem.  I've been taking years (decades?) worth of callous and built up dead skin from my heels and big toes.  And you know what?  My work shoes that seemed barely adequate when I bought them are now, actually, a tad too big.

I started off using a dremel sander, but one of my daughters bought me a "pediegg" which I am using now.  

Amazing.  Not only do my shoes fit, my feet haven't felt this good since I can remember.

Unfortunately, the "pediegg" captures the dead skin gratings, which takes away from the whole stinky gross man experience of dead foot skin removal, sorry to say.

On the upside, it keeps the mess off your crinolines.

ewww..,

But anyway, Celtic foot???

Have you tried these?

*sorry men*

But I have to say old goat, I was at a labour arbitrators training camp, a few years back, and a guy there actually had a pair just like that, only in gold with embellishments. I fell in love with them, and so wanted a pair, actually got to the point that I was wondering if I could steal them without getting caught.

He would wear them down to the hot tub area and park them right out in the open, even, which whetted my purloining them fantasies. ;)

They'd be nicely accessorized with colour coordinated spandex pants.

It's supposed to be a dreadful rainy weekend, so I was thinking it might be a good opportunity to do something about what's been loop playing in my mind lately.  Beef stew.  Figure I'd pan sear the heck out of some decent sized cubes, along with carmelized onion first.  Make a tomato based thickener sauce with the slightest hint of saffron, maybe lightly carmelize some veg along with it, plop it all into an oven roaster, along with the contents of a bottle of dark ale, and see what comes of it.  I'll have to make a second batch for my vegetarian partner, without the ale  as well, and hope that it doesn't all end up on the other side of the neighbors fence in the doggie bowl.  Nice doggie..look what Slumberjack made for ye.

What the heck are Celtic feet?

My feet are especially wide, making shoe, skates and boot purchases always a pain.

But you know what they say - wide feet -  wide...

 socks

You should tell your partner that ale is made from grains and herbs, not fermented yak meat.

Grains and herbs are not the issue in religious observances.

My man food tonight is ground buffalo. Yummy!!!

Where do you get 'ground buffalo'? I've never seen any. What does it taste like? Extra lean beef? fatty beef? something else altogether?

My father in law buys it from a Buffalo farm. It tastes similar to roast beef.

Thanks.

"What the heck are Celtic feet?

My feet are especially wide, making shoe, skates and boot purchases always a pain.

But you know what they say - wide feet -  wide..."

This came up here at babble some time ago, when I was complaining about my feet.  Someone asked if I had a "Cetic Foot"-- something I'd never heard of before.

So, I looked it up, and the story as I remember it runs like this:

Sometime after WWII or I,  a London, England podiatrist moved to Wales. There he encountered feet in such poor shape from ill fitting shoes-- which he did not see back in London, that he investigated.  He found that Welsh people's toes did not fall away at the same angle as did feet to be found amoungst presumably more Anglo Saxon, or French feet-- the pattern which all British shoe makers used.  When his Welsh patients were made shoes made for the "Celtic" foot, the foot disorders cleared up.

That's what I remember.  I'm sure it's googlable.

My "man food" tonight is tomato basil soup.  

_______________________________________

Eleutherophobics of the World...Unite!!!

Canada's food guide for men:  "Food should take longer to eat than it did to prepare." 

That's a joke, right?

I dunno; after I've spent 3-4 hours of a Sunday afternoon preparing something that I have to scarf down in 10-15 minutes (I always have to be somewhere in 20 minutes) I keep thinking that something isn't right.

I don't have time during the week to make anything that takes hours of preparation, though.

 This reminds me of last week when my missus mocked me and my buddy, a fairly conventionally macho (he's also a bow-hunter fer cryin' out loud) automobile mechanic, after we had a conversation about the benefits of using grapeseed oil to fry potatoes.

Damn!  I just remembered that we (my buddy and I) had this conversation at a fundraising dinner for women of Afghanistan.  Geez, I gotta go plane a board or something...

Hopefully Karzai wasn't the guest speaker? He is banned from the tree house.

Banned?  Who's banned?

This thread is more a "quit whining, siddown and have a beer" kinda place.

Although if Karzai hangs around here much, who knows if those sissy capes he wears will catch on...

I just had a Grolsch Weizen beer followed by a Black Isle Organic Blonde Lager. Is that manly enough?

Oh God help me, I'm drinking a fucking spritzer.

*slinks away*

"Geez, I gotta go plane a board or something..."

I usually do that in the quiet of the morning, before my shower.... oh, wait, that wasn't a euphamism...

I think any beer that sounds even vaguely European is considered unmanly-- except Pilsner Urquel.

Although, the exception might be the German beer "Warstiener".

There's a joke in there somewhere.

Out west we call it "pulling the goalie."

And oldgoat...damn!

My travels tonight need a safe place to puke.  The spritzer helped.

Many years ago, Mojo Nixon had this to say about wine coolers: "Why not just take lemonade and have Bruce Willis piss in it?"

Who's Mojo Nixon al-Q?  Looked it up.
 
HA!
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius
That's my kind of religion.

I don't know what that "Church of Bob" stuff is.  Look up "Mojo Nixon and Skid Roper."

One of the best times I've had at a concert was seeing Mojo and Skid in a bar on 8th Street in Saskatoon.  The venue was torn down years ago and replaced by a Stupidstore.

Anyway, the act included Mojo bouncing  plastic water-cooler bottles off audience members while singing "I'm a mush-room mani-ac, mush-room mani-ac" and spitting beer all over everyone.  A personal highlight for me was during "Elvis is Everywhere," when Mojo said something about "Dr. Spock and all that Star Trek jive" and I yelled out, "It's Mr. Spock!" and Skid looked at me and gave me a knowing nod.

Hmm, perhaps that's true even though they invented the damn stuff. But what is a beer-drinker to do if he lives in Europe? Drink Bud?

Another exception would be Löwenbräu for the low-brows.

I once had a beer called Alimony Ale--the bitterest beer in the world. Ha.

I agree that "Stella Artois" and "St. Pauli Girl" aren't very boyish-sounding names, but that's about it. What fuels the masculine rapish brutality of football hooligans, after all?

I don't know if you can find wine coolers in Europe, though; I don't recall ever having seen them there.

Bet he means shlong...heheh. I' gone

"schlong" (I think a 'c' should be in there)  is one penile euphamism that cracks me up.  I think it infers a penis of at least notable dimension, if not remarkable.

It beats "schmeckel."

Gonna correct my schlong I'll do your 'euphemism'. heheh

I googled "cervoise de ble noir" to see what I could find.  This is a beer they make in Brittany that's made of buckwheat.  It tastes something like Robert Charlebois' Unibroue "Maudit." Anyway, it ain't a girlie beer like Coors Light.

Oh yeah, the google search.  I found the site of the people who make Telenn Du, the Breton buckwheat beer I've tried.  They make others!   How about a manly beer like the one named Lancelot?  Apparently it has strange effects on sippers:

Now chug zat biere encore or I will taunt you a second time.

My review of "Warstiener":

A boisterus if not at times rude beer made from punctual hops, it starts off with an aggressive assault upon the olfactory senses before it manages a second front on the tastebuds.  Now allied, the nose and tongue eventually subdue this beer, leaving one to savour the bitter aftertaste.

Sounds like a normal Friday evening to me.

I'm a big fan of Slavutich and Lvivske beers. They are most radically delicious.

Also, I'm a big fan of Labatt Black Ice or any other strong beers - a bar I have taken to frequenting serves it at the base price, needless to say I'm quite happy about that. I have very fond memories of most Unibroue (minus the hangover - that beer is truly punishing). As for Coors? I'll drink it, but only when someone else has paid for it. It is too light for me. Certainly the least masculine beer I've ever had - then again, I do like the fact that every Coors I buy helps John McCain buy a new home that he will forget about. ;)

I haven't seen 50 Ale around here in a while.  Is it still available elsewhere?

We have a beer here called "Bohemian" that has a tag line, "A Saskatchewan Tradition." It used to be brewed in P.A. by Sick's Brewers, but Molson's bought them out.  I still like a Boh from time to time, but it bugs me that Molson's is taking my money.  Molson's also owns "Pilsener" beer here.  I believe they are in league with Coors as well.

Bah, I'm about to take a sip of my Garbage Pail Ale right now, then hit "Post Comment."

I used to like the smell of hops when I'd walk below the hill in my hometown. For me that was the smell of good beer being brewed. I dont know what theyre puttin' in beer nowadays. I think all those high turnover beers like Canadian and Bud, Coors, Bleu etc are fermented chemically in about a week's time. A decent beer aged naturally it supposed to take what, 28 days?

Coors and Molson are one company now, I believe.

And yes, 50 is still sold at many bars - usually under the lovely "cheapest bottle we got" category. <3

Speaking of garbage pail ale, I'd be hard pressed to find anything that compares to the swill that passes for brew in Newfoundland.  I refer to Black Horse, Dominion, BlueStar, and JockeyClub.  You'd want a pail nearby to even contemplate drinking the stuff.

- Edmund White, A Boy's Own Story

And it's definitely better than a 'schlort'

"Manly beer" encounters resistance.

Whatever turns your crank, marty.

Geez, you aren't going to turn this into a variation of your "I paid for hookers, how about you?" thread, are you?

Yep, I can remember being pushed outside into the snow by some big guy because Candy the peeler was paying too much attention to us at our table. I guess he'd spent a small fortune on sweet Candy by midnight and thought he owned her by that time. Those were the days. 

The first time I ever saw a peeler was up there in the  "weird things I've encountered" department. A couple of buddies from the mine and I were sitting in some saloon in downtown Brandon, Manitoba, when this girl at the table beside us suddenly got up, put a tape into a ghettoblaster, and started dancing around while taking her clothes off.

Nobody else in the place seemed to find this particularly odd.

"Nobody else in the place seemed to find this particularly odd."

Weird. Do you think "manly beer" could have had something to do with this loss of perspective? I mean, I'm sure "womanly beer" would drive women to bizarre behaviour too (if they were to glorify such a thing)...

No. I was drinking too, had worked a twelve-hour graveyard shift the night before, and then driven deep into Western Manitoba before ending up in this place. I could have been seeing lizards walking up the walls by that point and not thought the sight overly strange.

Since marty doesn't get the joke about beer and masculinity, maybe he can see the humour in the girl drink drunk.

I was drank drunk by an elementary school teacher once. Boy could she drink. And she wanted ME to drive us home ten miles from the downtown merengue club, which is where we ended up after sipping beverages in several different drinking establishments well beforehand, as in hours before. I wont say what we did next, because it was really, really crazy. Madness. We were a bad combo her and I.

AYE! IT BE A HEADY BREW!

How long do you have to soak in it?

Pitoui.

Ooops.  Sorry.  Someone moved the spittoon.

50 Ale was once Canada's most popular beer, back at the start of the baby boom.  Up until then, beers were of the sippin'  kind, deffinately "heavier" and not meant for chugging.  By accident or design, Labatt's 50 was the first "lighter"  tasting beer and it was a hit with the kids who looked to Jimmy Dean as a hero.

Time marched on to tail end boomers like me, and with the advent of more "light" beers and increased marketing, 50 fell from favour. No one could say anything good about it.

But, I will say I have had Labatt's 50 Ale in that time period at the "Amber Lounge"  here in London at the Labatt Brewery.  Much different from what one could have from the stubby bottle.  It was great, one of the better beers I ever experienced.  Fresh on draft makes a huge difference for any beer.

At Fryfogles tavern in those days, we used to order Old Vienna because it was the only cold beer in the place when it was busy, as it frequently was.  None of us ever got past the second one (we used to order two at a time, Fry's had notoriously slow service)  and, like every other group of guys who ever tried "O.V." we laid claim to being the ones who first dubbed it "Old Vagina".

I guess male white pride has got to lodge itself somewhere, now that scalping has fallen out of favour.

Eeesh.  I've never heard that one before. 

The town saloon used to sponsor our Senior hockey team, so we'd get a couple of cases of OV after every game.  The first one always went down like water...

A roughneck on one of the rigs I worked on used to sing the "Just say O.V." jingle, and he wasn't goofing around or anything.  He just liked the song. He could also pack a drillpipe up the catwalk instead of waiting for the catline, and he once during a tearout undid the BOP bolts under water instead of bailing out the sump.

Then there was this other roughneck who the others nicknamed "Braindead..."

no more typin answer dat question tho lol boxers too much freedom? na not enuff lol

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edit- n dam son when this weather gonna clear up so I can breath clearly lol

A more polite nickname for Old Vienna that my father (73) says is from his era was "Old Bananas".

Is it really humor to reduce manliness to stories of beer and drunken sex? More like complacency. Meanwhile, manliness remains connoted by violence and privilege.

898

OF THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN KILLED BY MEN AS MEN (OR BY UNKNOWN PARTIES)

IN QUEBEC ALONE SINCE DECEMBER 6, 1989

*Italics: Children and youths (192)                          Women (706)                                 Bold : the 14 women shot to death by an antifeminist at Montreal's École Polytechnique, on December 6, 1989

Ada Burns, Aïda El-Tomi, Agnes McCormick-McKenzie, Ai Ny Cai, Albina Arbour Cloutier, Alex Maheux-Royer, Alexandra McBride, Alexandre Blanchette, Alexandre Livernoche, Alexandre Riendeau, Alice Benoît, Alice Lépine-Reeves, Alice Tzokovitch, Alicia Moses, Aline Dubé, Aline Robidoux, Aline Taylor-Francoeur, Aloma Potvin, Alonzo Ortiz, Amanda Huard, Ana-Maria Salinass Norbakk, Anastasia De Sousa, Anastasia Siméon, Andréa Gagné, Andrée Gagné, Andrée Halpin, Andréanne Tremblay, Andrée Guénette, Angel Laskaris, Angela Moreau, Anita Lelièvre, Anita Roy, Ann Craig, Ann Lyons, Ann Tuyet Nguen, Anna Marden, Anna Yarnold, Anna-Maria Codina-Leva, Anne Brissette, Anne Laurin, Anne Morency, Anne-Lisa Cefali, Anne-Marie Edward, Anne-Marie Lemay, Anna Palmerone, Anne-Marie Morin, Anne-Marie Sharpe, Anne-Sophie Turcotte, Annette Wilson, Annick Babin, Annick Gravel, Annie Dominique-Normandin, Annie Lapointe, Annie Lefebvre, Annie St-Arneault, Annie Turcotte, Anthony Lefebvre-Richer, Antoinette Asselin, Antonia Cantin, Ashley Pluviose, Asife Saroussim, Audrey Danjou-Chrétien, Audrey Houde, Audrey Paquet, Audrey-Ève Charron, Aurélie Grimoux, Aurore Tremblay (2), Aylin Otano-Garcia, Barbara Daigneault, Barbara Erhardt, Barbara Maria Kluznick, Béatrice De Montigny, Béatrice Goyette-Spellir, Béatrice Lavoie, Béatrice Thibodeau, Bee-Leei Meng, Benoît Marceau, Bercuhi Leylekoglu, Berta Dimidjan, Berthe Dionne-Champagne, Berthe Hardy-Blanchette, Bianca Caron, Binh-Khieu-Thanh Tran, Bitha Mengo Munsi, Blandine Simoneau-Girard, Bonnie Dagenais, Born Samphorn, Brejnev Lee Maynard, Brigitte Gagné, Brigitte Pelletier, Brigitte Serre,  Brigitte St-Germain, Calliope Vournous, Carine Morneau, Carmel Louisjeune, Carmen Lagueux, Carmie Jeannot, Carmina Rivas, Carole Bienvenue, Carole Blanchette, Carole Boisvert, Carole Lachapelle, Carole Martin, Carole Nabhan, Carole Rajotte, Caroline Guimond, Caroline Landry, Caroline Laniel, Caroline Lyrette, Caroline Poulin, Caroline Veilleux, Carolle Deschamps, 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et Zacharie Hallé, as of May 20 2009.

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Thanks for killing a fun thread, Martin. Apparently, we're not allowed to just shoot the shit without first acknowledging what total fucking monsters we are.

What is with this catholic sense of overwhelming guilt that permeates every one of your posts? We can't talk about beer without Father Dufresne berating us for our sins.

Now, I like Ricard's White. Even though it's an industrial product, it is a good heffeweisen. The Keith's White ain't so good. Having said that, nothing beats an original German heffeweisen, especially the Dunkel varieties.

Last summer, I bought a minikeg of Warsteiner. It was under thirty bucks. This summer, it's almost $40.

I haven't tried Rickard's White yet. Ads aren't as interesting as the Rickard's red ads. Have you tried Rickard's White yet, Martin?

That will have to be a rhetorical question.  Yucky gril here to close the long thread and give y'all cooties. :)