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So I just admonished people to not engage in thread proliferation and direct their comments to threads already open, then I went and closed most of them for length. So I guess I should start this one.
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Talking to people you know about the coalition

I'm curious what experiences other posters here have had with other people they know since the fiscal update was first announced.  I haven't talked to anyone, not a single person, who is against the coalition.  Every single person I've talked to has been angry about Harper's games.  Even people I know who don't normally follow politics were angry when they heard about things like proroguing government.  My experiences obviously don't line up with the story the media is giving us.  Have other people had similar experiences?  Have you talked to people who are backing the Conservatives on this, and if so, how frequently?

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Coalition: Iggy going around it

There is still a general coalition discussion thread. But its moving pretty slow, and is long enough to give me a problems. Given the new turn of events I'm going to do what is intended as a replacement thread. There is a thread about Iggy and his intentions. This follows discussions from there, but is more focused on the where goes the Coalition.

Ignatieff consults political brain trust on economy

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081211.wignatieff_economy12/BNStory/politics/home

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Harper checkmated?

At the Prime Minister's request, the newly minted 40th parliament of Canada has been prorogued, closed until January 26, creating a situation unprecedented in Canadian history - a government has avoided defeat by dismissing the nation's lawmakers.

Over the next seven weeks, we will see a wave of propaganda and mobilization, amply funded, from the Conservative Party attacking the opposition leaders. This spending will take place outside the election writ period and thus, like the attacks on Liberal leader Stéphane Dion over the past two years, will be subject to no spending limits whatsoever.

At the end of January, on the date that he has chosen, Mr. Harper will meet Parliament and present a budget.

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The Lesser Evil?

Was Ignatieff's coronation a dark night for the Liberals, or will this be just what it takes to rid Ottawa of that Joker, Stephen Harper? (http://johnmaclennan.ca/)

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| December 10, 2008
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Class combat, Canadian style

The late Ralph Miliband, renowned Marxist political scientist (and father of British Labour Foreign Minister David) liked to point out how class warfare was waged against working people from above, by political parties allied with capitalists.

We saw an example of this last week in Ottawa. Stephen Harper denounced the NDP-Liberal coalition-in-waiting as socialist (it was also framed as lining up with the Bloc - the supposed threat to Canada). He suspended parliament to stop it. On the weekend, Liberal John Manley attacked his party for agreeing to a deal with the NDP. His call for his party leader to step down came straight from the boardroom.

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The sound of one democratic hand clapping

After 141 years is Canada finally, albeit accidentally, on the path to modern representative democracy? Don't pop the champagne cork yet. We still have a way to go, but the law of unintended consequences may be at work in Ottawa.

The drama began on November 28 when Jack and Gilles went up the Hill. They joined Stephane Dion to announce the Liberal - NDP coalition agreement, along with support from the Bloc. If this partnership forms government at some point in the coming months, it would give Canadians an experience rarer than a Leafs' Stanley Cup victory parade: true majority rule.

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Ignatieff takes over as Liberal leader

Looks like the much anticipated poop-storm at Liberal Party Headquarters is finally hitting the fan. According to the Star, Dion might resign as early as tomorrow. LeBlanc is expected to step aside and support Ignatieff, and predictions are a quick caucus vote would favour Iggy.

 

 

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Bob Rae steps down, Iggy likely the new Liberal leader

So, it's Ignatieff who will be the new Liberal leader.
The guy who is great on paper, but not so good in person.

Every Iggy supporter I have talked to, has said they are supporting Ignatieff, not because of his leadership, or values - but just because they think he can win.

Now, the Liberals have bypassed the Liberal community completely and simply acclaimed Ignatieff - a battle of attrition to see who had money left over after the last leadership campaign. This should do wonders for Harper's message of the Liberals being undemocratic.

If Stephen Harper ever wanted to cement the mantle of the 'Canadian party' on the Conservatives, running against a guy who spent the last 20 years outside of Canada ought to do it. 

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