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Slumberjack

arielc wrote:
 Just a comment about the role of police: Most police forces in Canada swear to uphold the Constitution ... and post-Caledonia, they are now very aware that that includes Aboriginal and treaty rights. They won't make fast and violent moves

Just a comment about the role of the police:  Fuck the police.

Slumberjack

I don't know how anyone can be impressed by the corporate mouth, represented in this instance through the filthy monologue of the Ottawa Citizen, when it determines for itself the strategies it will recognize as legitimate.  It should also be considered an offensive proposition to common sense to say that FN activism in support of their rights must pass the muster of the ones who have been denying their existence and circumstances for the past 500 years.  To say that one form of expression is real is to imply that the other is false.  The corporate empire routinely announces that all options are on the table in support of its own calculations, to the usual applause and support of the reactionary propaganda bureaus.

arielc

Slumberjack wrote:

I don't know how anyone can be impressed by the corporate mouth, represented in this instance through the filthy monologue of the Ottawa Citizen, when it determines for itself the strategies it will recognize as legitimate.  It should also be considered an offensive proposition to common sense to say that FN activism in support of their rights must pass the muster of the ones who have been denying their existence and circumstances...

Understood. His pronouncements are offensive, condescending and derogatory. My point was that they are also unnecessary and ill informed because INM is focusing on education and corporate disruption, strategies that will gain support of ordinary Canadians. INM is not treating Canada-and-all-Canadians as 'the enemy', a strategy doomed to fail. We are not monolithic. Many, even most, Canadians support Aboriginal rights and deplore the corporate bulldozer approach. We are allies and potential allies. INM's strategies recognize that. And since I can't navigate to the bottom of a post ... here's the rest of your post intact. for the past 500 years.  To say that one form of expression is real is to imply that the other is false.  The corporate empire routinely announces that all options are on the table in support of its own calculations, to the usual applause and support of the reactionary propaganda bureaus.

arielc

Oh balls!
My navigation problems are frustrating, so in future I'll write my responses above the quoted post.
sorry for confusion.

arielc

Slumberjack wrote:

arielc wrote:
 Just a comment about the role of police: Most police forces in Canada swear to uphold the Constitution ... and post-Caledonia, they are now very aware that that includes Aboriginal and treaty rights. They won't make fast and violent moves

Just a comment about the role of the police:  Fuck the police.

 

LOL
Reality sucks ...

Maysie Maysie's picture

The oppressor will not, and cannot, define the terms under which the oppressed assert themselves.

Although the oppressor will surely make some damned good attempts. In fact, the greater the movement takes hold, the greater the attempts. Many here have attempted to do so, under the guise of progressve thought and it's beyond the scope of my energy, or giving a shit, to challenge all of you who have done so.

Thanks for this, Slumberjack:

Slumberjack wrote:
 It should also be considered an offensive proposition to common sense to say that FN activism in support of their rights must pass the muster of the ones who have been denying their existence and circumstances for the past 500 years.  

 

onlinediscountanvils

Maysie wrote:

The oppressor will not, and cannot, define the terms under which the oppressed assert themselves.

Although the oppressor will surely make some damned good attempts. In fact, the greater the movement takes hold, the greater the attempts. Many here have attempted to do so, under the guise of progressve thought and it's beyond the scope of my energy, or giving a shit, to challenge all of you who have done so.

Thanks for this, Slumberjack:

Slumberjack wrote:
 It should also be considered an offensive proposition to common sense to say that FN activism in support of their rights must pass the muster of the ones who have been denying their existence and circumstances for the past 500 years.

Indeed. Or as Propagandhi sang; "Why do we pretend our approval is upon what they depend?"