Youth-led global climate change protests

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Aristotleded24

jerrym wrote:
These young people had enough ingenuity to organize a global internet conference mocking the failure to act on the issue to get attention on the issue, while you sit at a computer and bitch at them.

Here is the issue I have with these conferences and the desire to be safe. In many parts of the world, being an environmentalist is not safe. Last year the climate strikes in Canada marched under police escort. In many countries, they would have been met with police violence. Environmentalists in many parts of the world are targeted, harassed, kindapped, and even assassinated. Less than a day's drive away from where I live, water protectors also faced police and state violence to try and block the Dakota Access Pipeline. In many cases, environmentalists understand the risks they are taking, and yet willingly accept those risks because they believe in what they are doing. And the risks of protesting in many of these places greatly exceed the risks of the coronavirus. That's what makes me angry about this, because the idea that we have to be "covid safe" smacks of elite priviledge which is disrespectful of the actual sacrifices people have made in order to defend the natural world. There was actuallly a local march planned in solidarity with First Nations fishers on the east coast that local organizers cancelled because of covid restrictions. Let's just set aside the fact that the odds of outdoor transmission of covid is slim to none. These fishers faced physical violence, and yet we're too afraid to meet for an hour because of a virus or because restrictions prevent us from meeting? Some solidarity there.

jerrym wrote:
Instead of bitching about what these young people have done about climate change, why don't you organize a climate change protest of all of your gung-ho friends who feel their rights have been violated by Covid-19 restrictions. Or is all you are going to do is complain about your rights being violated by Covid restrictions as the world continues to bake in the global warming oven?

I'm afraid this trend is going to continue unfortunately. The ruling class simply does not care how many webinars these activists have, because these webinars do not challenge anyone's power. The other problem with being "covid safe" is that they have just taught the fossil fuel industry exactly how to neutralize their movement. The second you agree to play by someone else's rules, they have control over you. We are very familiar with the idea that the ruling class likes to use crises for power. Why do you think a health crisis will be different? What is it about medical and health authorities that their motivations are pure and that a health crisis would never be manipulated by the ruling class to its own ends? All the fossil fuel industry has to do now is to try and use a health emergency in order to control people's movements.

Contrast this approach with the BLM protests earlier this year. Remember, the rule was no large gatherings. Well, BLM broke that rule in a big way. They understand how power works, unlike many environmentalists. BLM broke those rules and marched. They demonstrated. They made their voices heard. Most importantly, they got results. Minneapolis took steps towards dismantling its police department, and cops were kicked out of schools. The idea to "defund the police" made it into mainstream discourse. Has the environmental movement accomplished anything of such significance? Instead of playing within the rules, environmentalists need to be out in the streets as if our lives depend on this, because they do.

jerrym

Aristotleded24 wrote:

jerrym wrote:
Instead of bitching about what these young people have done about climate change, why don't you organize a climate change protest of all of your gung-ho friends who feel their rights have been violated by Covid-19 restrictions. Or is all you are going to do is complain about your rights being violated by Covid restrictions as the world continues to bake in the global warming oven?

I'm afraid this trend is going to continue unfortunately. The ruling class simply does not care how many webinars these activists have, because these webinars do not challenge anyone's power. The other problem with being "covid safe" is that they have just taught the fossil fuel industry exactly how to neutralize their movement. The second you agree to play by someone else's rules, they have control over you. We are very familiar with the idea that the ruling class likes to use crises for power. Why do you think a health crisis will be different? What is it about medical and health authorities that their motivations are pure and that a health crisis would never be manipulated by the ruling class to its own ends? All the fossil fuel industry has to do now is to try and use a health emergency in order to control people's movements.

Contrast this approach with the BLM protests earlier this year. Remember, the rule was no large gatherings. Well, BLM broke that rule in a big way. They understand how power works, unlike many environmentalists. BLM broke those rules and marched. They demonstrated. They made their voices heard. Most importantly, they got results. Minneapolis took steps towards dismantling its police department, and cops were kicked out of schools. The idea to "defund the police" made it into mainstream discourse. Has the environmental movement accomplished anything of such significance? Instead of playing within the rules, environmentalists need to be out in the streets as if our lives depend on this, because they do.

You still didn't answer the question. If in the street protests are the solution to the global warming crisis, why aren't you leading the way instead of sitting back and sneering at those who do something. You also seem to be conspiracy theory-oriented in the sense that Covid-19 is simply a means for the elite to control everyone, when in fact many would demand a government resign if no restrictions were introduced to attempt to reduce Covid infections and deaths. While there may be an advantage to a government in these restrictions reducing protests, the fact is these governments are still in power and Blacks continue to get shot regularly in the US despite all the street protests and discrimination against Blacks has not materially changed around the world. Protests have often occurred throughout history where the politicians and elites have mumbled the semi-correct thing and basically continued in power doing much the same. 

Changing who is in power is important and in-the-street protests do not do that by themselves, unless your planning to violently overthrow the government in the process, which usually leads to many deaths and a new elite that often has its own civil rights violations, in part because they themselves have often engaged in some civil rights violations in the process of overthrowing the government.

Promoting the issue can take many forms, including protests and what these young people have done, which involves keeping the issue in the public eye through their internet mock conference while trying to take on the responsibility of ensuring they do not spread Covid among their families and friends, especially for those who live in poor communities and countries with their elders under conditions that are the most susceptible to the spread of the disease. 

Again, if you think in-the-street protests are the end-all and be-all of change, why aren't you doing this leading the way on an ongoing basis in organizing protests to fight climate change instead of criticizing others who have done something?

Aristotleded24

jerrym wrote:
You still didn't answer the question. If in the street protests are the solution to the global warming crisis, why aren't you leading the way instead of sitting back and sneering at those who do something.

You would be very hard pressed to find anyone who wants to have a gathering these days. Furthermore, in the post to which you are replying, I specifically said that an in-person protest in the streets had been called off because of the covid restrictions.

jerrym wrote:
You also seem to be conspiracy theory-oriented in the sense that Covid-19 is simply a means for the elite to control everyone, when in fact many would demand a government resign if no restrictions were introduced to attempt to reduce Covid infections and deaths.

That's because people have been propagandized to believe that covid is the new plague (it isn't by a long shot) and that the only way to deal with is lockdowns (which is not true).

jerrym wrote:
Protests have often occurred throughout history where the politicians and elites have mumbled the semi-correct thing and basically continued in power doing much the same. 

Changing who is in power is important and in-the-street protests do not do that by themselves, unless your planning to violently overthrow the government in the process, which usually leads to many deaths and a new elite that often has its own civil rights violations, in part because they themselves have often engaged in some civil rights violations in the process of overthrowing the government.

That's true, but street protests are an important part of political change. That is how segregation ended in the United States, and how apartheid ended in South Africa. When people are in the streets, those in charge know that people feel strongly enough about something that they want action taken. Governments are afraid of large groups in the streets. They couldn't care less how many webinars we host.

jerrym wrote:
Promoting the issue can take many forms, including protests and what these young people have done, which involves keeping the issue in the public eye through their internet mock conference while trying to take on the responsibility of ensuring they do not spread Covid among their families and friends, especially for those who live in poor communities and countries with their elders under conditions that are the most susceptible to the spread of the disease.

Climate change has fallen off the media's radar. Plus, with large numbers of people out of work and not knowing when this will end or if their business will survive the next few months, I'm guessing that many of these people are far too worried about that to concern themselves with climate change.

And again, the odds of covid or any respiratory illness being transmitted outdoors is slim to none.

jerrym

Aristotleded24 wrote:

jerrym wrote:
You still didn't answer the question. If in the street protests are the solution to the global warming crisis, why aren't you leading the way instead of sitting back and sneering at those who do something.

You would be very hard pressed to find anyone who wants to have a gathering these days. Furthermore, in the post to which you are replying, I specifically said that an in-person protest in the streets had been called off because of the covid restrictions.

So you're just going to complain about that the young people who the experts admit have done more than themselves and who are trying to bring attention to the issue in the Covid environment while you do nothing. After all, you're the one saying the risk of getting covid outside "is slim to none", so there shouldn't be any problem of you leading a protest, unless your only goal is to complain about what others do. Since you go to multiple threads to take them off-track with your continual posts on this issue, this will be my last post in this regard because this will simply end up otherwise in an endless back and forth going nowhere.

Aristotleded24

It turns out that the climate strikes were actually a corporate PR scam that had been in the making for a long time:

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No, this was not co-optation. This was and is PR. A brief timeline:

August 20 2018: On the first day of strike, the third person to respond to the “lonely girl” plight on Twitter is We Mean Business co-founder Callum Grieve. He adds the hashtag #WeDontHaveTime and tags five additional accounts: The Climate Museum, Youth Climate March LA, This is Zero Hour Ft. Lauderdale, Greenpeace International, and the UNFCCC, the “official Twitter account of UN Climate Change”.

  • 2009: G20 gathering in London: The world’s major economies come together to stem the global financial panic triggered by the collapse of the sub-prime mortgage market in the US (and subsequent unprecedented bailouts for corporations and banks). They assure society that they will establish a more stable growth path going forward.
  • 2009: UN works on the prospect of a Global Green New Deal to reboot the global economic system. It simultaneously works on tools to assign monetary value to all nature, global in scale, with the goal of creating new markets (TEEB – later to be absorbed by the Natural Capital Coalition).
  • 2009-2019: In the years that followed the 2009 assurances to contain panic in markets and salvage a battered financial system, growth – crucial to keeping the capitalist economic system afloat – failed to find a firm footing.
  • 2011: IMF: “We have entered what I have called a dangerous new phase… today, we risk losing the battle for growth. With dark clouds over Europe, and huge uncertainty in the United States, we risk a collapse in global demand. This challenge could not be more urgent. In our interconnected world, we are all on one boat. Any thought of decoupling is a mirage.” — The Path Forward—Act Now and Act Together, opening address to the 2011 Annual Meetings of the Boards of Governors of the World Bank Group and the International Monetary Fund, Christine Lagarde, managing director, International Monetary Fund
  • 2014: Global economy continues to spiral downward. “Capitalism is in danger of falling apart”, Al Gore, Generation Investment, The Climate Reality Project
  • 2014: Purpose (PR arm of Avaaz): Language of “green economy” is killed in order to save “green economy”. They will build it, but they won’t say they are building it.
  • 2014: People’s Climate March. The march was organized by GCCA/TckTckTck (co-founded by 20 NGOs including 350.org, Avaaz, Greenpeace), the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Climate Nexus (a sponsored project of Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors), 350.org (incubated by the Rockefeller Foundation), the Rasmussen Foundation and USCAN.
  • 2014: We Mean Business is launched. Created with the assistance of many including then UNFCCC executive secretary Christina Figueres, Purpose (PR arm of Avaaz), and Greenpeace.
  • 2015: Global Youth Summit takes place (Keynotes: UN Figueres, Kumi Naidoo Greenpeace, 350.org McKibben), Climate Strike website is created.
  • 2015: The Paris Agreement largely attributed to Christina Figueres comes into fruition. [Further reading: This Changes Nothing – Clive L. Spash]
  • 2015: Mission Innovation (Breakthrough Energy, Bill Gates, Richard Branson et al.) partners with 23 states and the EU. Similar coalitions and partnerships follow (Under 2C, The Climate Group, etc.).
  • 2017: World Economic Forum founder Klaus Schwab: “Capitalism is in crisis”
  • 2018: A teleconference led by a 350.org/Fossil Free representative with Climate Reality Project (Al Gore’s NGO) proposes a large climate march. Greta Thunberg partakes in this call as well as others that transpire. The idea of a strike is presented. Thunberg is receptive
  • May 2018: Ingmar Rentzhog, founder and CEO of We Don’t Have Time, is featured at a climate event with Greta’s mother Malena Ernman.
  • June 2018: Greta Thunberg social media accounts are created.
  • Summer/Fall 2018: The Green New Deal (promoted by UN in 2009) is resurrected.
  • July 2018: The Climate Group, co-founder of We Mean Business, promotes This Is Zero Hour climate strikes in the US utilizing the hashtag #WeDontHave Time [“Join the youth revolution!”]
  • August 20 2018: Greta sits on a sidewalk with a sign. Rentzhog discovers “the lonely girl”. We Don’t Have Time, partner of The Climate Reality Project, and Global Utmaning (Global Challenge) are interconnected by board relationships.
  • September to October 2019: Arnold Schwarzenegger arranges a Tesla for Greta to tour Canada and visit Standing Rock reservation.
  • August 20 2018: Also on the first day of the strike – the “lonely girl” plight is shared Sasja Beslik, international financial expert (WEF), head of Sustainable Finance, Nordea Bank.
  • Fall 2018: New Deal for Nature and Voice For The Planet campaigns commence. Exploiting an increasingly anxious citizenry, utilizing emotive images and language, these campaigns are in fact, not to “save nature”, rather, they are to monetize nature, global in scale.
  • September 1 2018: Only 12 days after her first day sitting on a sidewalk, Greta is featured in The Guardian.
  • September 2018: The largest-ever philanthropic investment to combat climate change is announced by ClimateWorks, largest recipient of climate philanthropy in the world.
  • September 26 2018: Thunberg appears at a seminar organized by The Climate Reality Project and Global Utmaning (Thunberg’s father denies any relationship or affiliation with Global Unmanning).
  • September 26 2018: The Climate Finance Partnership – a vehicle for blended finance – is unveiled at the One Planet Summit.
  • October 31 2018: Launch of XR global expansion is highlighted by The Guardian and endorsed by an array of liberal celebrity signatories.
  • XR global expansion takes place in partnership with The Climate Mobilization Project.
  • January 3 2019: “Global economic growth ‘now in free fall'”
  • January 2019: Christiana Figueres brings Greta Thunberg to Davos where they share accommodations.
  • January 2019: International media amplifies “The House is on Fire” Thunberg speech delivered at WEF. The message and delivery mirror the stratagem laid out in The Climate Mobilization (XR partner) paper “Leading the Public into Emergency Mode: A New Strategy for the Climate Movement.” (“Imagine there is a fire in your house.”)
  • January 2019: Davos, Switzerland – “Standing outside in the pitch-black cold at the World Economic Forum on January 23, 2019, a panel including Future Earth and partners announced to a live audience their intent to launch an Earth Commission.”
  • February 2019: Joint event with European Commission president and Thunberg where it is announced that 25% of the EU budget will go to climate change initiatives. Unbeknownst to the public, this decision was made in 2018.
  • July 2019: Business For Nature is launched. The coalition founders are We Mean Business, the World Economic Forum, The Nature Conservancy, WWF, the Natural Capital Coalition, the World Resources Institute, the IUCN, The Food and Land Use Coalition, Confederation of Indian Industry, Entreprises pour l’Environnement (EpE), Tropical Forest Alliance, and the International Chamber of Commerce.
  • August 2018 to Summer 2019: An international media assault on the populace featuring Greta Thunberg, adored and promoted by the ruling classes, corporations, institutions, World Bank and finance – this is coupled with apocalyptic media saturation. In effect – the multiple ecological crises which have been increasing over decades, is now being fully exploited as a means to manufacture consent. Corporations and institutions seek 100 trillion dollars for “climate solutions”. The unlocking of pensions is identified as a prime target.
  • August 2018 to Summer 2019: The emergence of a green fascism. Those criticizing the said solutions or “movements” designed by the ruling class for our collective consumption are ridiculed and subjected to hate.
  • August 2018 to Summer 2019: Western “environmentalism” creates demand for the further plundering of the planet in order to “save” the climate – in essence, a globally mobilized de facto green lobby group. The planned “climate” infrastructure eyes the Global South. The scale is massive: equates to the building of a New York City – every single month for the next forty years. Despite the fact that this cannot be squared with protection of biodiversity or the climate, the populace clamours for those in power (who are responsible for the crisis) to “do something” and align with the suicidal Paris Agreement.
  • February 20 2019: We Mean Business and Global Optimist (founded by Christiana Figueres, funded by We Mean Business), highlight the reaction to the climate campaign now well underway: “People are desperate for something to happen”.
  • April 2019: The Rockefeller Foundation closes its 100 Resilient Cities initiative, joins the Atlantic Council to launch a new center. [Explored in Volume II, Act VII]
  • June 13 2019: The World Economic Forum – representing the richest and most powerful people on the planet – forms a partnership with United Nations.
  • July 2019: “US philanthropists vow to raise millions for climate activists” – The Climate Emergency Fund is launched. Serving on the board is 350.org founder Bill McKibben and Margaret Klein Salamon founder and executive director of The Climate Mobilization (partner to Extinction Rebellion) and author of the paper “Leading the Public into Emergency Mode: A New Strategy for the Climate Movement.”
  • September 2019: Greta Thunberg sails across the ocean in a yacht to attend the United Nations Climate Action Summit organized and led by We Mean Business and the World Economic Forum (now partnered with the United Nations).
  • September 16 2019: The Financial Times unveils its largest campaign since 2009: The New Agenda – a re-booting of the capitalist system
  • September 18 2019: Conservation International and the *Food and Land Use Coalition finance the “Natural Climate Solutions” promotional video featuring Guardian’s Monbiot and Greta Thunberg. The video reaches more than 1 billion people in less than 24 hours. [*Member foundations include ClimateWorks, the David & Lucile Packard Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the Gordon & Betty Moore Foundation, Good Energies, and Margaret Cargill.]
  • September 19 2019: WEF releases promotional video featuring Greta Thunberg for “Voices For The Planet”. This is the WEF-WWF campaign for the financialization of nature, global in scale (payments for ecosystem services) that accompanies the “New Deal For Nature” promoted by WWF, CI, The Natural Capital Coalition, TNC, etc.. Supported by Greenpeace, 350.org, etc. who are not yet publicly promoting it.
  • September 20 2019: Global Climate Strikes take place.
  • September 2019: Many smaller NGOs, including those from the Global South oppose the WEF-UN Partnership. Avaaz, Greenpeace, 350, etc. are conspicuously absent from the signatories.
  • September 26 2019: The UN calls for a Global Green New Deal (bailout)

You can also see that nearly every environmental organization in the industrialized world has been co-opted. Knowing this helps to put things into perspective. It helps explain why Thunberg and other environmental organizations called off street demonstrations in the name of "safety" even though being an environmentalist in many parts of the world (or an Indigenous land defender in Canada or the United States) is very unsafe. It also explains the eagerness of the environmental movement to use the covid crisis to impose ecofascism and punitive carbon taxes on the world's population while the billionaire class continues to live in the same luxury that is more threatening to environmental stability than ordinary people taking tropical vacations every year.

jerrym

Aristotleded24 wrote

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It turns out that the climate strikes were actually a corporate PR scam that had been in the making for a long time:

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No, this was not co-optation. This was and is PR. A brief timeline:You can also see that nearly every environmental organization in the industrialized world has been co-opted. Knowing this helps to put things into perspective. It helps explain why Thunberg and other environmental organizations called off street demonstrations in the name of "safety" even though being an environmentalist in many parts of the world (or an Indigenous land defender in Canada or the United States) is very unsafe. It also explains the eagerness of the environmental movement to use the covid crisis to impose ecofascism and punitive carbon taxes on the world's population while the billionaire class continues to live in the same luxury that is more threatening to environmental stability than ordinary people taking tropical vacations every year.

A24 ,the blog you're quoting is from Cory Morningstar, an alt-left conspiracy theorist who believes that there is a 'deep state' within world governments that controls almost all aspects of our lives. The following article dicusses  the fact that her work is full of wild-eyed statements without evidence and outright falsehoods. The article you quoted comes from is the Wrong Side of Green blog which is a conspiracy theory driven thread  by Morningstar that often supports dictators and quotes anti-vacciners, as well as many other conspiracy theories, even holocaust deniers. I know the wealthy and government elites have considerable power, but I not swallowing the line that every institution, including the youth-led climate movement are part of a global conspiracy run by the elite.

Like the alt-right, the alt-left lives on conspiracy theories and denial of easily-verified facts.

One example of a conspiracy theory that some members of alt-left promote is that the White Helmets, also known as Syria Civil Defense, are actually organ traffickers who stage attacks and rescues and are allied with terrorists. This conspiracy theory goes hand-in-hand with the conspiracy theory that the genocidal dictator Bashar al-Assad of Syria is neither genocidal nor an illegitimate dictator and is unfairly portrayed as evil by the Western mainstream media.

In reality, the White Helmets are a group of courageous volunteers who have saved thousands upon thousands of lives....

One of the first people to start arguing that the White Helmets were actually malevolent frauds was Cory Morningstar. She has several online platformsand currently operates a blog called “Wrong Kind of Green” with Forrest Palmer, who endorses and edits much of her writing.

Again, the White Helmets are the ones who are helping suffering Syriansand nothing that Morningstar or others like her (e.g. Michael Swifte, a blogger who calls the White Helmets a “propaganda construct”) says about them will make this fact untrue.

Morningstar calls herself an investigative journalist and has called her research “extensive and exhaustive,” but one look at the people who vouch for her and at the kinds of people and sources she presents as legitimate shows that this cannot be true.

One such person is John Steppling, a writer whose activities include defending dictators. He and Morningstar promote each other’s work online. ...

Meanwhile, Haeder defends Andrew Wakefield and seems to support his call for the suspension of the MMR vaccine. As is widely known, the MMR vaccine is safe and Wakefield has been soundly discredited.

Morningstar is friends with Eva Bartlett and Vanessa Beeley, two propagandists who work to slander the White Helmets, and deny Assad’s crimes against humanity (e.g. his horrifying chemical attacks). They have also been expertly debunked multiple times. Beeley, Bartlett, and Morningstar all share and promote each other’s work online.

On Bartlett’s Patreon page, a video of her can be found in which she argues that evil dictators Assad, Gaddafi, and Kim Jong-Un have all been unfairly vilified by the West. ...

Morningstar also promotes the work of Australian war crime denier and 9/11 truther Caitlin Johnstone as if she were a legitimate source. Morningstar also promotes the website Black Agenda Report, in spite of the fact that one of its writers, Ajamu Baraka, is yet another dictator-defender (as is grifter Jill Stein). And she promotes Tim Hayward (who is another war crime denier).

In addition, Morningstar treats the “news” websites 21st Century Wire, OffGuardian, Global Research, and American Herald Tribune as legitimate sources. The 21st Century Wire website is currently hosting articles which assert that vaccines are dangerous, that the ongoing cultural genocide against Uyghur Muslims in China might not be happening, that global warming is a scam, that Trump’s hateful transgender military ban “makes sense” and that Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán’s anti-refugee policy is fine.

Beeley is also an editor of this hideous website. She and Holocaust-denier/Sandy Hook truther Paul Craig Roberts (who currently has a lot of articles on Counterpunch) share the belief that the horribly tragic 2015 Charlie Hebdo shooting was a false flag. She is an anti-semite. She also vilifies philanthropist George Soros as a “Zionist Billionaire” who supports the “deep state.” Beeley also supports fascist Julian Assange. ...

OffGuardian has published anti-vaccine articles, and American Herald Tribune has published 9/11 truther and other bogus conspiracy theory articles. Global Research is also disgusting and rife with nonsense and anti-semitism.

Patrick Henningsen, the executive editor and founder of 21st Century Wire, equated the Oscar-winning Netflix documentary film “The White Helmets”to Nazi propaganda, and Morningstar currently hosts the article in which he asserts this on Wrong Kind of Green. ...

Morningstar thinks that leading environmentalist Bill McKibben and his organization 350 are not worth supporting. Recently she has spent a great deal of time in harassing and attacking the wise and courageous 16-year-old environmental activist Greta Thunberg and attempting to discredit her as a manufactured corporate pawn. Morningstar proved how odious and twisted her obsession with this child is by going so far as to publish her slanderous writing about her in a book that she is now selling on Amazon.

No news outlet or journalist is perfect or gets every single fact right one hundred percent of the time. But some journalists and news outlets have standards and work hard to use credible evidence to back up what they say, and some do not.

https://medium.com/@roheath/debunking-cory-morningstar-and-other-alt-lef...

 

Aristotleded24

jerrym wrote:
A24 ,the blog you're quoting is from Cory Morningstar, an alt-left conspiracy theorist who believes that there is a 'deep state' within world governments that controls almost all aspects of our lives. The following article dicusses  the fact that her work is full of wild-eyed statements without evidence and outright falsehoods. The article you quoted comes from is the Wrong Side of Green blog which is a conspiracy theory driven thread  by Morningstar that often supports dictators and quotes anti-vacciners, as well as many other conspiracy theories, even holocaust deniers.

I've never seen any holocaust denial on that website at all. Having said that, the fact that the author chose to engage in ad hominems and guilt-by-association smears rather than to deal with the substance of Morningstar's post proves that the author is correct.

jerrym

Aristotleded24 wrote:

jerrym wrote:
A24 ,the blog you're quoting is from Cory Morningstar, an alt-left conspiracy theorist who believes that there is a 'deep state' within world governments that controls almost all aspects of our lives. The following article dicusses  the fact that her work is full of wild-eyed statements without evidence and outright falsehoods. The article you quoted comes from is the Wrong Side of Green blog which is a conspiracy theory driven thread  by Morningstar that often supports dictators and quotes anti-vacciners, as well as many other conspiracy theories, even holocaust deniers.

I've never seen any holocaust denial on that website at all. Having said that, the fact that the author chose to engage in ad hominems and guilt-by-association smears rather than to deal with the substance of Morningstar's post proves that the author is correct.

That is really rich. You quote her smearing climate activist after climate activist with being part of a conspiracy theory and then claim that she is being smeared and then claim any attack on her proves she is right. It doesn't prove anything.  Start your own thread to promote your theories rather than bombing everybody else. I don't want this to be another thread of never-ending claim and counter claim. 

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