cross posted with you AarghMonkey
I haven't yet thanked you for starting this thread. I may not agree with you, but it is an interesting one.
And no, I'm not in favour of overthrowing the government by force. I definitely do not think we are there yet. And frankly, if people can't be convinced to take the many avenues of action that must be exhausted before we WOULD be at that point, how can you possibly think that they would be capable of overthrowing anything?
I'm not being pessimistic. Really, I believe change is far easier than you think. But the fact is you can lead a horse to water, but that is about it.
Its an important subject, glad its getting attention.
I have come to Rabble on and off for years and it gets pretty stale in here, I have tried this question in different ways, at differnet times and it usually gets shrugged off, ignored and swept aside, I think the fact that protests are happening around the world and the fact that things are getting really really bad (how bad?) REALLY BAD out there, that people are, even on the left side, waking up.
It bothers me to see the left so impotent and apathetic, we are the ones guarding the truth, we DESERVE our place in power, not the right.
I wish I had some peoples optimism but anyone that is optimistic about our future has blinders on, from the environment to living standard, we are screwed royally and its only a matter of time before something really big happens, I would just like to mitigate that big thing and try to steer the crashing car into the soft ditch and not wait for it to inevitably hit the brick wall.
Whatever puts the left in power should be considered, our "everyones voice deserves to be heard" approach has allowed the right to LIE, CHEAT and then DESTROY that liberal system, VILIFY the left and systematically shut us out of power.
The generation that dreamed up the midde class realized that a group that attacks the middle class should be attacked back, that the importance of an intelligent, liberal, thriving middle class is paramount, without that even the 1% is screwed.
Im rambling, I do that when I actually give a shit about something.
1. The left is impotent right now, all efforts havent worked for decades and instead have seen the right seize more power by driving buses through our "give everyone a chance" stance.
2. Theres nothing to be optimistic about, we dont make goods, wages are plummeting while cost of goods are sky rocketing, gas is expensive and running out, the 3rd world is beginning to create a small middle class and making demands on us (their right since we screwed them over for our own good), the environment is screwed, the weather is screwed and theres no sign, NONE, that the left will gain power anytime soon.
Sorry, its late and this shit is killing me, peace.