Canadians don't like American tourists

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Wilf Day
Canadians don't like American tourists

For those who don't read the Globe and Mail, this little gem of a story:

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Canadians aren't exactly tossing back celebratory mojitos at the prospect of Americans soon being able to travel freely to Cuba, an island many Canucks covet as their own.
 
In fact, recently introduced bills in Washington that recommend lifting the 46-year ban on U.S. citizens travelling to Fidel Castro's fief have many Canadians in a sweat that the island's laidback calm will be shattered once the Americans - typecast, fairly or not, as loud, crass vacationers - descend.
"As a tourist, it's really nice to go somewhere where everyone is treated equally. The Americans could change that. As tourists, they do have this built-in reputation as pushy and demanding.

 Liz Collings, a bank employee in London, Ont., who has vacationed in Cuba 11 times, said a sudden influx of Americans might be uncomfortable for tourists who are used to having resorts to themselves.

But one Canadian unenthusiastically said it had to be done; he was pro-freedom, even for Americans.

Boom Boom Boom Boom's picture

Why Obama doesn't lift the blockade on Cuba entirely, is my question.

Doug

Because he can't on his own. That would have to go through Congress, who might not be as fond of the idea. It's also reasonable to suppose the administration feels that holding that out as a carrot rather than doing it now might better induce the Cuban government to make more changes.

Michelle

I think that stereotype is kind of silly.  Not to mention that Canadians can be just as pushy and rude as Americans.  We're not THAT different when it comes to culture.

Every time I've visited the US, I've been treated with nothing but kindness, friendliness, and respect, both by people working in service jobs (from the ticket-takers in the Port Authority and Penn Station in New York City, to servers in restaurants in little towns in New Jersey, to clerks in stores in Syracuse, to gas station attendants in Pennsylvania), and by other people I encounter, who are always happy to share directions with a stranger, chat on the train, and be complimentary about Canada when they find out that's where I'm from.

With the exception of American border guards (and ours aren't so nice these days either), I've found average Americans to be as nice and friendly as the average Canadian.

thorin_bane

I think it's the abroad problem, and more importantly, we as canadians fit into their mold well enough so they don't mind us. Ask a mexican the same question and I am sure you will get a very different result. Border guards....geez if they had BG's like us I wouldn't have to wait 3 hours to cross because "I'm a security threat". As are the other 10,000 shoppers/those visiting friends/relatives. I live on the border so I get my fair share of rude abnoctious americans every weekend. They like to "tell you like it is" and "how great they are" Then do all kinds of crap like pissing on the sidewalk, saying"I didn't know I couldn't do that" Really? You didn't? Even my american cousins like to come over and tell me how useless my country is compared to the great work the americans do around the world. This is while visiting my place. The are far from humble, which is why they are viewed as RUDE.

I will say when I was in Kansas they were friendly, but I am also white and was sporting a handlebar moustache at the time. I look like a "common folk" to them as they described me, despite my weird sounding words. Can you guess which ones they were talking aboot.

Jerk Jaws

I think it's great that the U.S./Cuba trade blockade has been lifted (if only partially-- however, I understand Obama has pledged to finish the job).  A point that was raised by a Cuban-Canadian on our CBC supper newscast (Here and Now in NL) is that the end of the travel sanctions will mean that as Cuban-Americans are allowed to visit home as many times as they like (instead of once only 3 years as during the blockade) they will have the opportunity to bring home to their families amenities (toothpaste, shampoo, etc. along with $$) that are readily available here but cost-prohibitive there.        

torontoprofessor

It's the old "Americans are more obnoxious than Canadians" debate! Well, just as thorin bane gets his share of rude obnoxious Americans every weekend, I get my fair share of rude obnoxious Canadians every weekend (especially if I'm down near the club district). Oh, and they piss on the sidewalk too. And Canadians are just as prone to letting Americans know how much better Canada is than the US, as Americans are to letting Canadians know how much better the US is than Canada.

As for tourism in Cuba... As Americans are given more and more opportunities to visit Cuba, it will be bad for Canadians for a simple reason: the increase in demand for hotels, restaurants, etc., will likely send prices up.

Ghislaine

Wilf Day wrote:

For those who don't read the Globe and Mail, this little gem of a story:

Quote:

Canadians aren't exactly tossing back celebratory mojitos at the prospect of Americans soon being able to travel freely to Cuba, an island many Canucks covet as their own.
 
In fact, recently introduced bills in Washington that recommend lifting the 46-year ban on U.S. citizens travelling to Fidel Castro's fief have many Canadians in a sweat that the island's laidback calm will be shattered once the Americans - typecast, fairly or not, as loud, crass vacationers - descend.
"As a tourist, it's really nice to go somewhere where everyone is treated equally. The Americans could change that. As tourists, they do have this built-in reputation as pushy and demanding.

 Liz Collings, a bank employee in London, Ont., who has vacationed in Cuba 11 times, said a sudden influx of Americans might be uncomfortable for tourists who are used to having resorts to themselves.

But one Canadian unenthusiastically said it had to be done; he was pro-freedom, even for Americans.

I wonder if he was pro-freedom even for Cubans? Not if it violates a rich westerner's right for a cheap winter destination, I guess. who cares if Cubans aren't allowed to stay there and have sporadic electricity while resorts are all lit up 24/7? Who cares if Cubans are not allowed to leave freely to visit their relatives in the US or Canada? Who cares if they do not have the right to emigration?

I really hope Obama follows through (and gets congressional approval)  and ends the ridiculous blockade. This is a very positive first step.

And I agree with Michelle and TOprof - there is little difference overall in general. I worked in the tourism and service industries and there are many rude Canadians.  The stereotype here on the East Coast is about rude arrogant Torontonians that flood this area in the summer. I don't like any stereotypes, but believe me that one is very prevelant. And during a festival last summer, my apartment building was urinated on by a fellow Canadian.

 I am pretty certain that when the Cubans who wait on Canadians all winter already have plenty of rude arrogant tourist stories.

thorin_bane

My point was if I hadn't been white in Kansas I would not have been treated like one of them down home boys. Actually I find I am treated well most places that I don't call home. Windsor has many surly citizens. Or it may just be you are more perseptive to good and bad while abroad. I think the sewing of Canadian flags(heck even kits with how to pronounce words) is indicitive of us vs them. Yeah drunk canadians can be big jerks. I just get tired of our city being treated like a toilet and them sayin we are their backyard. "So like it or lump it cuz we protect your ass. "

How many instances have you seen of canadians saying crap like that? Seriously? That is why. People that come to canada may or may not be close to those that go to europe, but if you ask them I pretty sure they have a different POV of us vs them.

Again ask mexicans how their reception is in the states. Minute men guarding the border isn't a fairy tale, they take it seriously. My friend M says she like it here more than detroit cuz the people are nicer. Maybe that is just her POV but take it for what it's worth.

Daedalus Daedalus's picture

Michelle wrote:

I think that stereotype is kind of silly.  Not to mention that Canadians can be just as pushy and rude as Americans.  We're not THAT different when it comes to culture.

Every time I've visited the US, I've been treated with nothing but kindness, friendliness, and respect, both by people working in service jobs (from the ticket-takers in the Port Authority and Penn Station in New York City, to servers in restaurants in little towns in New Jersey, to clerks in stores in Syracuse, to gas station attendants in Pennsylvania), and by other people I encounter, who are always happy to share directions with a stranger, chat on the train, and be complimentary about Canada when they find out that's where I'm from.

 

Americans are some of the best and most hospitable hosts in the world - far, far warmer than Canadians imo. But a good host is not always a good guest, and this seems particularly true with Americans travelling abroad.

Michelle

Well, I suppose there is that.  But I still doubt they're any worse than the average Canadian tourist, especially tourists to sun spots.

Boom Boom Boom Boom's picture

I've been treated well everywhere I've travelled - all across Canada, the US, England, and Wales. If I could afford to, I'd travel again, but to places I've never been, like Italy and France, although I love parts of England, and in the US I'd like to return to New Mexico and Colorado (I have friends in Denver).

Daedalus Daedalus's picture

Michelle wrote:

Well, I suppose there is that.  But I still doubt they're any worse than the average Canadian tourist, especially tourists to sun spots.

 

 Hotel owners seem to disagree ...

 

http://space.canoe.ca/traveleditor/blog/view/227551

 

Despite the fact that we are rapidly becoming a political colony (maybe a refuge?) of the American right, we still seem to behave quite differently abroad.