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kropotkin1951

A video tweeted by incumbent Liberal candidate Chrystia Freeland, who served as deputy prime minister in Justin Trudeau's government, was given a warning label Sunday from Twitter, which marked it as "manipulated media."

Freeland's tweets, posted in both English and French, contain several edits and show Conservative leader Erin O'Toole answering a question about privatized health care during an online question-and-answer session in July 2020 during the Conservative leadership race.

Strangely when I heard this my response was how far down the rabbit hole can we go before we find a tea party? A foreign owned corporation inserting itself into our democratic process in aid of our furthest right party. Of course it is balanced by a former POTUS inserting himself into the campaign as well, on behalf of the other side of Canada's duopoly. While Canadians may not quite get it, clearly, America's elite understands we are a client regime not a sovereign nation whose internal affairs are sacrosanct.

Watch for further interference by our US rulers if the NDP surges to any dangerously high percentage.

NorthReport

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NorthReport

Lobbying rules which allow our Canadian government to keep these things secret from Canadians are a farce and probably need to be abolished.

Singh wants to end oil and gas subsidies, and fund renewable energy projects

https://ckpgtoday.ca/2021/08/23/singh-wants-to-end-oil-gas-subsidies-and...

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https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/federal-election-2021/singh-focus...

kropotkin1951

An interesting local development in Courtenay Alberni is that the Green riding association has voted to not run a candidate against Gord Johns. I saw a photo op with the Green candidate from the last election and Gord on the campaign trail. This is a part of the country where the ridings swing between the NDP and Conservatives.

Last election the results were NDP - 41.2 Cons - 33.1 Greens -  13.5 Liberals - 11.9 Marxist Leninist - 0.04 It should turn Gord's seat into one of the safest in the country. I am really glad for that because I want him to be MP but I can't bring myself to vote for his party this time.

Are there any other Green riding associations who have done the same thing as Courtenay Alberni?

NDPP

Vast majority of Canadians believe Trudeau could have waited a year until calling election seen as a 'power grab'

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/vast-majority-of-canadians-believ...

'The Liberals' lead over the Conservative party has dwindled to barely two per cent as a tightened race heads into second week.'

"Nearly seven out of 10 Canadians think that Liberal party leader Justin Trudeau could have waited until at least next year before calling the current federal election, and a large majority believe he did it now as a 'power grab' to win a majority government, according to a new Leger poll.

Throughout the first week of the campaign, Trudeau has faced repeated questions from both media and opposition parties about why he decided to dissolve the minority parliament earlier this month and plunge the country into a federal election, particularly in light of the COVID-19 pandemic..."

There is a palpable national anger about this unnecessary, unwanted election at a time when people would have expected politicians and the government to attend to the urgent matters, international and domestic, that so obviously call for  immediate attention.

kropotkin1951

It would seem that many pundits are starting to question the ability of the Liberal's to form a majority. I generally don't like Keith because he is a right wing hack who has a very strong anti-NDP bias. This analysis of BC's ridings is a good breakdown of which party owns which region of the province. I agree that if Trudeau loses seats to the NDP it will be because he loses seats in the Lower Mainland especially Burnaby, Vancouver and Surrey.

This province has 42 ridings and about 15 of them are strongholds for the various parties. The Conservatives, whose 17 seats are the most of any party, are almost unbeatable in the eastern Fraser Valley, some of the Interior and most of the northern region of the province. The Liberals, with 11 seats, are entirely confined to Metro Vancouver when it comes to areas of strength. Especially in Vancouver and Surrey, where they won six of nine ridings in 2019. The NDP is strongest on Vancouver Island, where it won five of seven ridings last time around (the Green Party won the other two) and the east side of Vancouver and nearby suburbs. Unless there is a significant shift in voting patterns, only about a dozen or so ridings can be considered truly competitive and liable to change hands on Sept. 20.

https://www.burnabynow.com/local-news/opinion-path-to-disaster-or-a-majo...

NorthReport

This is the part that O'Toole keeps avoiding to talk about with the Conservative approach to Canada's Health Care System. As a matter of fact to have fairness, we should be heading in the opposite direction, and eliminating the private clinics as much as possible, to ensure that the ultra rich don't always end up at the front of the line. And as the NDP keeps suggesting, we need to include Pharmacare and Dental programs as well to the public system.

 

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@Unbranded63

We have a limited number of health professionals in Canada. When you create private clinics, you're not taking pressure off the public system, you're taking professionals out of the public system. Leads to longer wait times in the public system which defeats access. #cdnpoli

Pondering

NDPP wrote:

Vast majority of Canadians believe Trudeau could have waited a year until calling election seen as a 'power grab'

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/vast-majority-of-canadians-believ...

There is a palpable national anger about this unnecessary, unwanted election at a time when people would have expected politicians and the government to attend to the urgent matters, international and domestic, that so obviously call for  immediate attention.

Editorializing. I haven't noticed angry Canadians stomping about grumbling about the election. Sure, everyone knows Trudeau is having this election to try to get a majority.  That doesn't mean they are angry about it or that it will impact their vote even if they were furious. 

NDPP

 Coalition urges voters to consider human rights for Palestinians in upcoming vote

https://canadatalksisraelpalestine.ca/2021/08/24/coalition-urges-voters-...

"Canada needs to take concrete measures to support freedom and justice for Palestinians..."

Stop supporting candidates that support Israeli apartheid and genocide. See link for list of 'asks' for your candidate...

josh

O’Toole has not explained how his support for allowing moreprivate, for-profit medical services squares with his assertion that he fully supports universal, public health care. Public health-care advocates say he can’t have it both ways.

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal-election/2021/08/24/truth-test-can-otoole-support-private-health-care-within-universal-public-system.html

NorthReport

Liberals announced they were going to tax the banks a wee bit more today, purposely the same day the NDP were discussing cell phone prices in Canada, but why didn't Trudeau actually do it during the past 6 years? The NDP to do well this election are going to have to go bold and big. The purpose of the exercise is to win. Why doesn't the NDP announce the elimination of the special capital gains tax (50% of any capitable gains is not taxable). If the NDP is serious about taxing the ultra-rich, it would be an ideal place to start.

josh

They're still hobbled by Mulcairism.  And Layton backed down from an inheritance tax in one of his campaigns.

NorthReport

BC handles their Covid19 infomation well, with accessibility to both their Public Health Officer and their Minister of Health for the media, on a regular basis, who always have some questions to ask. By the way they both must be exhausted.

Federal COVID-19 briefings stopped during election, sources say. Experts concerned

 

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/8139653/federal-covid-19-update-canada-electi...

NDPP

John Horgan's NDP BC 'handles' Indigenous ecocide/ genocide hand-in-glove with Trudeau Liberals. Please pay close attention to the reality of 'reconciliation' succinctly and accurately explained by an activist in the clip.

CBC: Trudeau challenged on BC's Fairy Creek logging by First Nations

https://youtu.be/_K7VcYEbTL4

"Dozens of Indigenous protesters gathered outside Justin Trudeau's hotel in Vancouver in one of multiple protests held this week. 'When Liberal leader Justin Trudeau touched down in BC there were dozens of indigenous activists accusing him of genocide and also saying they were unhappy with his policy on pipelines..."

 

NDPP

Observations from the campaign trail

https://twitter.com/bravo_alej/status/1430645768419954694

  1. Tax the Rich is a winner
  2. Deep anger at election call
  3. There's a youth-quake out here demanding Justice - climate, racial and economic.
NorthReport

Singh I presume will keep his powder dry concerning whom to support, until after the election on election nite when we will all see what the numbers are https://globalnews.ca/news/8140954/analysis-jagmeet-singh-wouldnt-back-s...

NorthReport
NorthReport

The NDP have an excellent candidate in the riding, so maybe they can take it.

Vancouver Liberal candidate makes series of rapid-fire home deals, insists he's no speculator

 

Local housing advocate Rohana Rezel was the first to go public with his concerns about Noormohamed’s dealings, and shared his research with our station — which we verified through land title records.

He argues what’s happened here qualifies as flipping.

“On the one hand, you have Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau promising to crack down on speculation and flipping, and at the same time, you have a candidate that’s engaging in that very behaviour,” Rezel said.

NEWS 1130 asked Noormohamed how many homes he has sold within a two-year period after purchase within the last decade, and he said he didn’t want to speculate.

His staff says they will try to provide some more information on this, but that it may take time.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/08/25/vancouver-liberal-flipping-homes/

Pondering

NDPP wrote:

Observations from the campaign trail

https://twitter.com/bravo_alej/status/1430645768419954694

  1. Tax the Rich is a winner
  2. Deep anger at election call
  3. There's a youth-quake out here demanding Justice - climate, racial and economic.

I'm curious as to how they measured the "deep anger".  Seems a little strong for an election call. I could see deep anger over Afghanistan.  Oh, I know,  Green and Conservative voters are deeply angry because they are going to lose seats. 

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

For those whose political memories don't go back 30 years. From wikipedia:

wikipedia wrote:

Notwithstanding all of this, Peterson's Liberal Party still retained a comfortable lead over the Progressive Conservatives and NDP in mid-1990 public opinion polls, as their party leaders Mike Harris and Bob Rae, respectively, were not expected to be strong challengers. The PC Party was broke after the 1987 election, and anticipating an early election call they held their leadership contest in May 1990 with a membership vote instead of a delegated convention, they still struggled due to newly minted leader Harris's inexperience as well as an association with Prime Minister Brian Mulroney's growing unpopularity.[26] The NDP having never won an Ontario election and Official Opposition leader Bob Rae was considering retiring from the legislature after one more term. As a result, Peterson decided to call a snap election, less than three years into his mandate. This proved to be his greatest mistake.[22]

Many voters saw the early election as a mark of arrogance, and a sign that Peterson's Liberals had become detached from the electorate. There was no defining issue behind the campaign, and many believed that Peterson was simply trying to win re-election before the economic downturn reached its worst phase. Some Liberal cabinet ministers, most notably Greg Sorbara and Jim Bradley, were strongly opposed to the early election call. Sean Conway, a member of Peterson's inner circle, would later acknowledge that most backbench MPPs also opposed the timing of the campaign.

The Liberals not only lost the election to the NDP, but Peterson lost his own seat in London to the NDP candidate. People were angry about the unnecessary election, even though there was no pandemic at the time.

NorthReport

The NDP and the CPC should remind voters every day from now until September 20th, that this is an unnecessary election, and simply an attempted power grab by the Liberals. Not only that, but Election Canada workers don't even have to be vaccinated. What kind of nonsenses is that. There is going to a huge vote by mail.

NDPP

Maybe less huge than you think. Don't assume everyone is as entranced with electioneering as the fandom here. People are angry and disgusted with these bourgeois political extravaganzas and empty political promises they know won't be kept. Especially given the existential problems we face. They don't trust politicians generally and know they are accountable to powerful interests that have nothing to do with making things better for them. Am I the only one that has noticed the barely there lawn signage around?

Douglas Fir Premier

NDPP wrote:

Am I the only one that has noticed the barely there lawn signage around?

I've certainly noticed that in my riding. Although I'm sure some of that can also be attributed to other parties somehow being caught flatfooted by an election call everyone should have known was coming. The NDP didn't have a candidate in my riding until two days ago.

NDPP

Afghanistan Crisis Dominates Campaign Trail as Canada's Evacuation Mission Ends

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/federal-election-2021-afghanistan-crisis...

"NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh called the government's withdrawal process a 'failure'. 'It's with a heavy heart that we now see thousand of our allies - people that put their lives at risk to support our troops - now being left behind.

So yes, it's sad that Canada has failed and Justin Trudeau knew about this problem, knew about the concerns and didn't act in a timely way, and as a result there's going to be lots of people now that are pretty desperate and not sure what's going to happen to them,' Singh said on Thursday..."

NorthReport

Singh appears to be doing OK but he needs to keep hammering away at global warming and Housing like he did today in Manitoba

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/oceans-climate-change-1.6154156

JKR

NDPP wrote:

Don't assume everyone is as entranced with electioneering as the fandom here. People are angry and disgusted with these bourgeois political extravaganzas....

It seems you are angry and disgusted while most people are unbothered by the election. People are probably more interested in things like returning to school, Thanksgiving gatherings, the upcoming NFL and NHL seasons, the Blue Jay’s, what to have for dinner, etc,...

melovesproles

We're going to see a low voter turnout which usually benefits the Conservatives.

josh

A party staffer has just informed travelling media former NDP MP Ruth Ellen Brosseau will be making an announcement tomorrow. She represented Berthier—Maskinongé from 2011 to 2019. Rumour has it she has been mulling over a run in this election. Nomination deadline with EC is Monday

https://twitter.com/EricGrenierTW/status/1430972629947752450?s=20

NorthReport

She is a real trooper and she has a working class background.

That could be just what is needed to light Singh's fire in Quebec

Ken Burch

NDPP wrote:

Maybe less huge than you think. Don't assume everyone is as entranced with electioneering as the fandom here. People are angry and disgusted with these bourgeois political extravaganzas and empty political promises they know won't be kept. Especially given the existential problems we face. They don't trust politicians generally and know they are accountable to powerful interests that have nothing to do with making things better for them. Am I the only one that has noticed the barely there lawn signage around?

So...what tactic, other than presumably an election boycott- a tactic which has been a catastrophic failure everytime the :eft has used it in ANY country- would you advocate?

I think we're all with you on the need for movement-building, but how would you say that should be manifested while the election is underway?

What is it that you personally want to see built, that you've been a part of trying to build?

What is it, in short, that you are FOR?

As the song asked, over half-a-century ago:  "You say you've got a real solution, oh, well you know, we'd all love to see the plan".

There's no way to build revolution solely by launching endless jeremiads.

 

NorthReport

It's been awhile since we heard from Dr Tam. Why has she been muzzled by the Liberals?

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/federal-election-2021/2021/8/2...

NorthReport

More Liberal dirty tricks at play here? Curious minds wish to know.

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal-election/2021/08/26/rethink-cho...

NorthReport

Apparently last nite Trudeau wanted to have an off the record private meeting with the reporters traveling with him and they told him to get stuffed and that there would be no inappropriate secretive meetings with them.

JKR

Canada ‘should be proud’ to raise flag again, O’Toole says on unmarked Indigenous graves; Global News; 26 August 2021
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Conservative Leader Erin O’Toole said Thursday Canadians “should be proud to put our flag back up” after it has remained at half-mast on the Peace Tower and other federal buildings for nearly three months to mark the finding of unmarked graves on the grounds of former residential schools.
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“I’ve been talking to Indigenous leaders since I became Opposition leader. Reconciliation will be important for me as will be pride in Canada, building it up, making more opportunity for more people including Indigenous Peoples. That will be my priority and I do think we should be proud to put our flag back up.”

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laine lowe laine lowe's picture

Douglas Fir Premier wrote:

NDPP wrote:

Am I the only one that has noticed the barely there lawn signage around?

I've certainly noticed that in my riding. Although I'm sure some of that can also be attributed to other parties somehow being caught flatfooted by an election call everyone should have known was coming. The NDP didn't have a candidate in my riding until two days ago.

Wow, I just noticed that there are absolutely no signs up around many parts of Winnipeg. And it's not about being adverse to putting up signs since all across the province there are signs against Pallister's Bill 64  Education Reform.

ETA: I find O'Toole's comment about the flag very tone deaf.

NDPP

Have all candidates running been vaccinated? Shouldn't their parties know and verify this?

NDPP

'Their blood will be on your hands': Chaos in Kabul hits Trudeau's Campaign

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/election-2021/their-blood-will-b...

"...Canada's rescue effort was half-hearted, falling far short of what other allies were doing. Some 54 per cent of Canadians think Ottawa should have acted more quickly to help Afghans, according to a Postmedia/Leger Marketing poll published on Wednesday.

'Canada's poor initial response in Kabul points to an extreme of centralized political micro-management,' said Andrew Leslie, a retired Canadian general and former head of the army who was a Liberal MP from 2015 to 2019.

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said Canada's exit was a 'failure.' Trudeau aides said they do not fear much damage from the chaos in Afghanistan ahead of the election, given voters are likely to be focused on domestic matters..."

The cynical calculation of probable evasion of consequence can always be counted upon by Canadian politicians.

Pondering

NorthReport wrote:
More Liberal dirty tricks at play here? Curious minds wish to know. https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal-election/2021/08/26/rethink-cho...

Trudeau has no control over Elections Canada. He can't tell them where to put polling stations.  Having said that I seem to recall before the election was called Elections Canada made a statement saying they could hold elections safely but would prefer a longer writ to give them more time to prepare due to the pandemic. 

I think asking Canadians for a fresh mandate due to the dramatic changes since the last election is reasonable. Refusing to give Elections Canada more than the minimum time to prepare has resulted in their inability to set up campus polls. 

Singh should double down on this without saying "Trudeau doesn't want you to vote".  Instead it should be worded as "because Trudeau wouldn't allow Elections Canada more time it will be more difficult for youth to vote. Conincidentally Trudeau doesn't do as well with younger people."

This is a good issue for Singh to get young people angry about. There are great soundbites available on this issue.  "Democracy is weakened when governments make it more difficult for people to vote." is a great one. It ties it in with Republican efforts.  "Government" includes Election's Canada so there is no direct defence on this for Trudeau. Especially when Election's Canada responds with "but we asked for more time". 

When I get the idea that someone is unfairly making something more difficult for me to do I get more determined to do it. Getting angry about being treated unfairly is a great motivator. 

Pondering

Would the NDP be allowed to set up stations on campus to help and encourage students to register to vote by mail? The NDP can't take registrations but could they set up an information booth with computers and scanners at the ready at even one big university. Somewhere that could provide photo opportunities for the MSM. 

Pondering

NDPP wrote:

Maybe less huge than you think. Don't assume everyone is as entranced with electioneering as the fandom here. People are angry and disgusted with these bourgeois political extravaganzas and empty political promises they know won't be kept. Especially given the existential problems we face. They don't trust politicians generally and know they are accountable to powerful interests that have nothing to do with making things better for them. Am I the only one that has noticed the barely there lawn signage around?

I have. Yesterday I saw a single Trudeau sign on a post on St. Laurent Blvd. 

Ken Burch

Pondering wrote:

NorthReport wrote:
More Liberal dirty tricks at play here? Curious minds wish to know. https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal-election/2021/08/26/rethink-cho...

Trudeau has no control over Elections Canada. He can't tell them where to put polling stations.  Having said that I seem to recall before the election was called Elections Canada made a statement saying they could hold elections safely but would prefer a longer writ to give them more time to prepare due to the pandemic. 

I think asking Canadians for a fresh mandate due to the dramatic changes since the last election is reasonable. Refusing to give Elections Canada more than the minimum time to prepare has resulted in their inability to set up campus polls. 

Singh should double down on this without saying "Trudeau doesn't want you to vote".  Instead it should be worded as "because Trudeau wouldn't allow Elections Canada more time it will be more difficult for youth to vote. Conincidentally Trudeau doesn't do as well with younger people."

This is a good issue for Singh to get young people angry about. There are great soundbites available on this issue.  "Democracy is weakened when governments make it more difficult for people to vote." is a great one. It ties it in with Republican efforts.  "Government" includes Election's Canada so there is no direct defence on this for Trudeau. Especially when Election's Canada responds with "but we asked for more time". 

When I get the idea that someone is unfairly making something more difficult for me to do I get more determined to do it. Getting angry about being treated unfairly is a great motivator. 

Why SHOULDN'T Singh just say "Trudeau doesn't want you to vote", though?  Why not be direct?

NorthReport

Agreed Ken

Singh needs to point out this unnecessary election and the disenfranchising of young voters every day until September 20!

kropotkin1951

Reconciliation, what reconciliation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJqY9Yxl7eE

kropotkin1951

Climate chaos? I'm f'ing sick of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7_ukohOgR8

Pondering

Ken Burch wrote:

Why SHOULDN'T Singh just say "Trudeau doesn't want you to vote", though?  Why not be direct?

You're right. I should follow my own advice. The fewer words the better. 

NorthReport

Here's a shot in the arm for the NPD in Quebec.

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/8146260/ruth-ellen-brosseau-ndp-election-2021/

NorthReport

Pharamacare is huge for all of us, but particularily for Seniors. Sounds like the NDP is the one party who wants to have a public plan for drugs in Canada. 

Singh says he could make good on NDP's $10B universal pharmacare pledge by late 2022

 

 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/federal-election-2021/singh-says-he-coul...

Pondering

I just got a text message from the Liberals saying:

Reply YES to confirm receiving updates. Msg frq varies. Reply HELP for help, STOP to end. Msg&Data Rates may apply. 

I was going to text NO feeling annoyed then remembered they had my number from when I voted for Trudeau as leader. Then I thought, wait, I should text yes. Then I will be able to tell everyone what they are texting out. 

Then I typed out the message here, and realized, I was going to text "NO" instead of "STOP", no being the opposite of yes. 

So, babble officially has a mole. 

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Pondering wrote:

So, babble officially has a mole. 

It all depends on your point of view. You say that babble has a mole in the Lib campaign. It looks to me more like the Lib campaign has a mouthpiece on babble. After all, any of us could subscribe to Liberal dreck if we wanted to.

NDPP

[quote=kropotkin1951]

Reconciliation, what reconciliation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJqY9Yxl7eE

[quote=NDPP]

Reposted also to 'FN's Don't Vote For Canada!'

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