George Galloway in Canada.

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George Galloway in Canada.

Defend Free Speech has the schedule of Galloway's triumphant return visit to Canada. Conservatives, bigots of all stripes, Zionists and other misanthropes are trembling in their basements.

 

Paul Graham has some excellent quotes already. Here are a few ...

Canada in Afghanistan

Paul Graham wrote:
Galloway was asked about Canada's role in Afghanistan now that the Harper government has announced troops will be staying until 2014 in a training capacity.

"Well I wondering when the people of Canada are going to ask how come these Afghans need so much training. That's 10 years of training with no noticeable improvement in theatre. No one is training these Taliban and they seem to be doing remarkably well, so I'm wondering just how long you are going to keep on using your tax dollars and risk the blood of your sons in order to "train" the armed forces of a corrupt and discredited administration of Hamid Karzai.

"Second, I don't think you should fool yourself that the Afghans resisting foreign occupation regard these soldiers as only trainers. In fact, any foreigner who is participating in the occupation of Afghanistan is, in fact, in a very life-threatening, endangered situation. And I pray that you don't add to the very considerable death toll amongst Canadian soldiers that you already have, because I don't believe that Hamid Karzai's administration is worth another drop of Canadian blood, or anyone else's blood for that matter.

"So I think it's a very serious mistake. Again, it's done for political reasons, to continue to provide cover for the war, so as not to add to the run on the credibility bank which is already underway in the world about this war - and I very much hope that Canada doesn't pay a further price for this."

 

Antisemitism

Paul Graham wrote:
When asked to comment on the mandate of the Canadian Parliamentary Coalition to Combat Antisemitism, which this month hosted a conference in Ottawa of the Inter-Parliamentary Coalition to Combat Antisemitism, Galloway was critical.

"Well, it's all very mysterious. That's the first point. The Canadian taxpayer paid a pretty penny for this conference, even though they were entirely locked out of it. No media were permitted in it. We have no proper record of who was there. The attendance list even has not been published despite the taxpayer funding the whole thing. And it's all very mysterious - what it's all about. And when we'll see its impact on Canadian public life. But it would be a fair inference that its impact will be malign and that the current assault on free expression on this issue in Canada is going to be intensified as a result of these protocols.

"I don't think that this kind of secret conclave, coming up with - until now - secret protocols - is going to combat any antisemitism in Canada. As a matter of fact, it's quite likely to generate greater feelings of enmity, which of course, I would deplore.

"Antisemitism exists. It is a racist phenomenon that has long existed in Christian countries for many, many centuries. Like all forms of racism it must be combated, and combated in the correct way which successfully, hopefully, one day, extinguishes it.

"But the answer to antisemitism is not to stop beating up the Jews and start beating up the Muslims. Instead, the answer is to conduct oneself in an unrelenting campaign against all forms of racism, bigotry and hatred - and that's what I have done all of my life.

"Insofar as I've seen anything from this secret conclave, it attempts something unique in the world - to make Israel the collective Jew. And this, itself, is a racist and therefore antisemitic idea. Israel is not the collective Jew. There is no collective Jew.

"There are huge numbers of Jews who don't want anything to do with Israel either from religious or secular, progressive standpoints. The population of Israel is not Jewish. There are at least 25 per cent of the population which is not Jewish and no one has the right to collectivize them as Jewish - to do what Lieberman is demanding they do themselves - to sign an oath effectively liquidating their place in the state as first class citizens.

"And of course there are well over two and a half million - in fact, getting on for three million Christians and Muslims living under illegal occupation within the de facto borders of Israel today. And they too cannot be collectivized as Jews by the whim of a secret conclave in Ottawa. So I think it's all rather disturbing.

"But it raises what we used to call the $64,000 question, which is: Why is Canada doing this? Why has Canada become this monomaniacal supported of the most extreme forms of support for Israel? Why has Canada allowed itself to become effectively an embassy for Netanyahu in the world?

"It's certainly not in Canada's interest. I don't believe it's in the interests of the Jews of the world. And I don't even believe it's in the interests of the State of Israel. And it goes without saying it's certainly not in the interests of the region as a whole and peace in the world."

Kick. their. bigoted. asses. George.

 

 

 

PSG

If you want to hear the interview noted by N. Beltov, you can get it at http://paulsgraham.ca/index.php/2010/11/17/george-galloway-pledges-to-he...

 

PSG

Don't forget -- it's not too late to participate in the Canadian Peace Alliance's Virtual March on Ottawa: http://www.acp-cpa.ca/en/VirtualMarch.html

And after that, check out how the Galloway tour is playing in Israel:

http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/george-galloway-to-kick-off-co...

NDPP

'Backers' Distance Themselves From Galloway Tour

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/Backers+distance+themselves+from...

"Vancouver NDP MLA Spencer Chandra Herbert has asked StopWar.ca to remove his name from the list...Dr [David] Suzuki twice asked since Tuesday that his name be removed from the StopWar.ca website...He said the Suzuki group 'does not get involved in Middle East politics'..Irene MacInnes, a founding member of StopWar.ca, said she personally requested and received Dr Suzuki's endorsement in the lead up to the 2003 Iraq War. She called the campaign ' a plan to disrupt George Galloway..'"

When Israel's defenders  speak the mighty quake in fear...

contact@davidsuzuki.org

s.chandraherbert.mla@leg.bc.ca

NDPP

University Threatens to Sue Rabbi Over Anti-Galloway Email

http://nationalpost.com/news/University+threatens+rabbi+over+anti+Gallow...

"York University this week threatened a Toronto rabbi with legal action if he continued to spread 'defamatory' remarks about the school's president and did not stop encouraging non-students to protest George Galloway's speech on campus...Rabbi Aaron Hoch sent an email to 700 people on his community mailing list last week informing them about the speech...asking them to 'take part in protesting this outrage...'

the threatened suit is more about what the rabbi said of the Uni pres than anthing to do with Galloway, looks like

N.Beltov N.Beltov's picture

Well, if the Zionists foam at the mouth and start biting everyone in sight, why not take advantage of it?

NDPP

York Slammed in House for 'Shelter' of Galloway

http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/11/19/york-comes-under-fire-in-house-f...

"A cabinet minister criticized York Unicersity in the House of Commons Thursday for threatening legal action against a Toronto rabbi who encouraged non-students to protest George Galloway's speech on campus on Tuesday night."

Looks like you're on to something NB - even Peter Kent is snapping and snarling

George Galloway Causes 'hate speech' debate in Vancouver, Confusion at Church

http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/thesearch/archive/2010/...

Go George Go

MCsquared

Why is George Galloway being feted? I would rather hear from bonafide Palestinians who understand the issue and does not have this buffoon's baggage. As far as I'm concerned Galloway is the Ezra Levant of the left . Phhhhht

Unionist

MCsquared wrote:

Why is George Galloway being feted? I would rather hear from bonafide Palestinians who understand the issue and does not have this buffoon's baggage. As far as I'm concerned Galloway is the Ezra Levant of the left . Phhhhht

George Galloway is being feted, in my humble opinion, because his bold, principled, and defiant stance scares the shit out of apologists for the Israeli murderers. They have no clue what to do with him.

In Toronto, they sent the JDL neo-fascist scum to "demonstrate" - pathetic. A flop.

In Montréal, Hillel House announced that they would not demonstrate, that no one should go, because Galloway is "fringe" and "irrelevant". Galloway attracted 500 enthusiastic participants - all the publicity was positive, lots of media interviews.

Similar to Hillel House, some of them call him a "clown" or "buffoon". It's because they're terrified. Their pretence at dismissiveness is belied by the frenzy of the Harper government, best friend of Israel in the world, which tried to keep him out of Canada. Canadians are far too democratic-minded to accept the crimes of Harper and his pro-Israel toadies.

So let them alternate between fascist suppression and nervous jokes. They will fail. The people will win. As they always have done.

 

MCsquared

I disagree Unionist. He is seen world-wide as at best a fringe fool and at worst emotionally ill. He is failed politician (which under any other circumstances would be something to cheer) while he has damaged his own credibility by stupid antics from reality TV participant where he inexplicably laps milk cat-like from a woman's hand to blustering in public about his fondness for homophobic dictators like the president of Iran.

I understand the frustration of getting the message out. Im only saying that for me, I would prefer a better messenger.

Lard Tunderin Jeezus Lard Tunderin Jeezus's picture

Just to be clear, you are equating Galloway, a defender of the weak who was elected to British Parliament multiple times, to Levant, an obsequious toady to the rich and powerful?

MCsquared

My comparison, just to be clear, is one of tactics. Galloway is a bully, he acts silly and is seen by too many as touched. If the message about Palestinian suffering is to get out to the general world instead of just the usual crowd, Galloway is not the one to deliver it.

Unionist

Actually I'm no longer amused by debating with boring pro-Israel Zionist talking points.

One, two, a thousand Galloways!

Lard Tunderin Jeezus Lard Tunderin Jeezus's picture

MCsquared wrote:

My comparison, just to be clear, is one of tactics. Galloway is a bully, he acts silly and is seen by too many as touched. If the message about Palestinian suffering is to get out to the general world instead of just the usual crowd, Galloway is not the one to deliver it.

I think you're entirely wrong. Galloway indisputably draws attention to the issue of Palestinian suffering, an issue otherwise ignored by the mainstream media.

Iwant Liberty

MCsquared wrote:

Why is George Galloway being feted? I would rather hear from bonafide Palestinians who understand the issue and does not have this buffoon's baggage. As far as I'm concerned Galloway is the Ezra Levant of the left . Phhhhht

Agreed, the guy is a loon, very dangerous.

Lard Tunderin Jeezus Lard Tunderin Jeezus's picture

...to the status quo.

The Woolfman

Unionist wrote:
Actually I'm no longer amused by debating with boring pro-Israel Zionist talking points. One, two, a thousand Galloways!

It seems to me that anyone who disagrees with Unionist is automatically labeled by him as a "pro-Israel Zionist".

As for Mr. Galloway, I fully support his right to be in Canada. I support his message but what should be clear to anyone with two eyes is that his message does get lost because of his past antics. The great unwashed see him as a bit of a nut and turn away. Speaking to the converted is not what is needed.

al-Qa'bong

Some loon; some nut.

 

George Galloway taking on the US Senate; "In everything I said about Iraq, I turned out to be right, and in everything you said about Iraq, you turned out to be wrong".

Maysie Maysie's picture

IwantLiberty wrote:
 Agreed, the guy is a loon, very dangerous.

Woolfman wrote:
 The great unwashed see him as a bit of a nut and turn away.  

Mod hat on.

Disagree with Galloway all you like, but don't use language like "loon" and "nuts", which is stigmatizing and insulting to those with mental health issues and other struggles.

And don't ever use the term "the great unwashed". That's classist bullshit.

Woolfman, Unionist didn't call anyone a pro-Israel Zionist. He called certain arguments "boring pro-Israel Zionist talking points". There's a difference.

The Woolfman

You don't get what I'm trying to say. George can be absolutely right about everything, doesn't matter. He has done such strange things that they surpass his message in the eyes of Joe average. Mianstream media continue to portray his behaviour as bizarre (much of it his own doing) and most people simply don't care to research otherwise. That's just life and while I like hearing Geroge speak and enjoy his wit, most people I know want nothing to do with hm, not because of his message but because they think he's strange. They are not listening!

The Woolfman

Maysie wrote:

IwantLiberty wrote:
 Agreed, the guy is a loon, very dangerous.

Woolfman wrote:
 The great unwashed see him as a bit of a nut and turn away.  

Mod hat on.

Disagree with Galloway all you like, but don't use language like "loon" and "nuts", which is stigmatizing and insulting to those with mental health issues and other struggles.

And don't ever use the term "the great unwashed". That's classist bullshit.

Woolfman, Unionist didn't call anyone a pro-Israel Zionist. He called certain arguments "boring pro-Israel Zionist talking points". There's a difference.

Quite right Maysie. I apologize on the terms and stigmitization. I look froward to the rules being applied equally to all.

PSG

In Canada, politicians submit themselves to humiliation every week on CBC's This Hour has 22 Minutes. In this regard, why should British MPs be any different. Whatever one might think of Galloway's performance on Channel 4's Celebrity Big Brother, his performance as a defender of the Palestinian people is unmatched by Parliamentarians on either side of the Atlantic.

Unionist

The Woolfman wrote:

That's just life and while I like hearing Geroge speak and enjoy his wit, most people I know want nothing to do with hm, not because of his message but because they think he's strange. They are not listening!

Really. [url=http://rabble.ca/babble/national-news/galloways-canada-ban-wont-be-revie..., the very day after the court decision, was the beginning of the new-style campaign against George Galloway. Now that he can't be called a "terrorist" any more, the new approach is to try desperately, frenziedly, to stop people listening to his views and to dismiss him as bizarre and irrelevant (as per the talking points of the Montréal Hillel House stooge that I alluded to earlier). No one should think that these campaigns are spontaneous or accidental.

From the babble thread linked to above - some excerpts only, from three different posters:

Quote:
I frankly never could care less about "Showboat Galloway". He changed his views/politics and exhibited such bizarre behaviour that any work he did was always suspect. ...

My thing with Galloway is that he is a friggin clown. I have no respect for this blowhard and do not see him as a person with much integrity. That said his being a silly twit should never have stopped him from entering Canada and all those who want to hear a man, who pretends he is a cat on public TV, can certainly do so. I will be picking my nose that evening. ...

I will defend your right to enjoy catman Galloway. ...

... his antics are childish and boorish. He is a pompous ass...

... jtleroy is also right when he points to Galloway as a total oddball whose ridiculous behaviour ...

George Galloway's behaviour is very disturbing ... If he is seen as deranged who would pay attention to his message ...

And on and on and on.

It would be extremely naive to consider all this as spontaneous.

Galloway, as mentioned before, is an eloquent and unapologetic ally of the cause of the Palestinian people. Were he not, the likes of Harper and the champions of the Israeli regime wouldn't spend two minutes trying to dehumanize him and impugn his credibility. Fortunately, as Galloway himself relentlessly points out, their efforts continue to backfire spectacularly.

 

Catchfire Catchfire's picture

Galloway is speaking Monday in Vancouver (and Tuesday in Calgary, and Wednesday in Yellowknife). Don't miss it!

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Galloway is extremely dangerous....To the Zionists attempts of mainstreaming Apartheid.

absentia

I watched him wipe the floor with Steve Paiken last night. Most satisfying!

Unionist

Is it on line?

absentia

Don't know. Should be. TVO, the Agenda. I'll check later, when i get faster reception, bacause i missed the first part.

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

You can see it here:

 

http://www.tvo.org/cfmx/tvoorg/theagenda/

 

eta:  This should work for a direct link:

 

http://www.tvo.org/TVO/WebObjects/TVO.woa?videoid?685882987001

Unionist

Thanks RP.

absentia

Thanks, RP

Ripple

Sideways glance around the room ...

 

[url=http://workingtv.com/]And here is Galloway in Vancouver[/url]

 

 

Waves to Unionist.

clandestiny

absentia wrote:

I watched him wipe the floor with Steve Paikin last night. Most satisfying!

Notice Paikin's eyeballs? Almost coming outta the belly cracker's skull; he was SO upset! George frisbee'd the rightwing stooge (all Galloway needed was a puppy to jumpencatch the 'flying object' hahaha!) and nonchalantly exposed the cranky bastard's warpig mentality Example: paikin: "Whatsa diference between you pushing the Palestinian pov and the Harper gov pushing the Israeli pov?"  George: "Well I'm not a nation state, and have no authority to dictate national policy  regards mideast- plus the netanyahu rightwing type does not necessarily reflect ISRAEL best interests, just because you say so"

I loved it!

And notice how REASONABLE david frump was in next segment? (with paikin's eyeballs back in the sockets) ...mister frum seems kinda shook up at the gop inability to control the reactionary rightwing 'tea party'  frum etc helped unleash on the world...sara Palin's is already the gop candidate for 2012, and frum thinks reason should prevail and stop it! 

1 million dead innocents too late, imo...

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture
thorin_bane

And they let Steve Paiken moderate anything. What a fucking useless weasel. Galloway responds and explains it clear as day and this jackhole can't figure it out. I was trying to find a contact email and i couldn't find it. What a disgrace our media is. If our media can't understand the difference of giving money to the elected government (and for doctors and nurses) and a terrorist organisation(basically equating them with al quiada) then is it any wonder that even more canadians aren't  confused. He make michael enright look good in comparisons.

Conservatives through and through run our media.

hsfreethinkers hsfreethinkers's picture

I like Steve Paikin - he just tends to go way over the top playing devil's advocate that's all.

N.Beltov N.Beltov's picture

The devil doesn't need an advocate. He needs a merciless beating and Gorgeous George is just the one to administer it. Hell yea.

PSG

Here's George Galloway speaking in Winnipeg last Friday:

http://paulsgraham.ca/index.php/2010/11/28/georgegalloway-video-of-his-w...

PSG
M. Spector M. Spector's picture

[url=http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Galloway+draws+capacity+crowd/3895865/... draws capacity crowd of 900 in Ottawa[/url]

Quote:
Estimating that almost 8,000 people have heard him speak on this tour, Galloway said the attempt to bar him from Canada only increased his popularity. "Any book you try to ban automatically goes on the best-seller list."

Only a handful of protesters have collected outside Galloway venues on the tour.

In Hamilton, his speech was held up for about an hour when people had to check their coats and bags as a security precaution.

But most of the controversy in Galloway's visit has been limited to newspaper columns and letters to the editor, some framing the controversy as a freedom of speech issue.

al-Qa'bong

absentia wrote:

I watched him wipe the floor with Steve Paiken last night. Most satisfying!

Thanks for the link, RP.  Does that Paiken guy really believe what he says, or is he just as uninformed and propagandised as a good MSM type ought to be?

He actually said that Karzai, as the ruler of Afghanistan, invited foreign troops to the country.  Galloway had to point out to him that Karzai was created by the West to govern Afghanistan for them.

Paiken stumbled a bit in testing Galloway on the importance of the question of Palestine, claiming that Iran would still be seeking nukes and Iraq would...would...(you could see he was too polite to say what he was thinking, that Iraq would still be populated by Arabs)...not be a thriving democracy even if Palestine were liberated.

NDPP

The report on him from Calgary is less so:

Galloway Needs to Change Tactics to Produce Results

http://thegauntlet.ca/story/15018

"The only part of the lecture that approached the introduction of opposing views was a two-part rant on 9/11 conspiracy theories (after Galloway was attacked in the second set of questions for his answer from the first set in which he labeled 9/11 conspiracy theorists 'insane')

Galloway dismissed 9/11 truthers as mad and missing the point. While Galloway's total contrarian insistence on the absurdity of these theories was admirable, it's a shame he resorted to the 'Bush was too stupid to pull it off' argument which once again, discredited legitimate points for the sake of populism.."

Lard Tunderin Jeezus Lard Tunderin Jeezus's picture

Actually, the news report is better than that opinion piece.

cruisin_turtle

RevolutionPlease wrote:

eta:  This should work for a direct link: 

http://www.tvo.org/TVO/WebObjects/TVO.woa?videoid?685882987001

Interesting interview on tvo. Galloway is an excellent debator. Quick, informed and graceful all throughout. Like Noam Chomsky, you enjoy listening to him if just for the mental stimulation and you end up with an enriching experience.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Meanwhile on the west coast the zionist propagandists are trying to vilify and delegitimize Stopwar.ca.  Corrigan at least is not about to let them set the agenda although he didn't overtly support Stopwar.ca only their right of expression.

The Burnaby NDP MP's tell the tale of the party. Some MP's have the courage of their convictions and others wait to see which way the wind id blowing.

Quote:

"If an organization brings in a speaker, we're not there to stop it," he said of the issue, adding council might not always agree with the opinions of speakers brought in by the organizations the city is involved with, but they don't try to control who is allowed to speak at events.

Two Burnaby New Democratic Party members of Parliament, Bill Siksay and Peter Julian, were also targeted in the e-mail campaign because of their endorsement of StopWar.

But Siksay, MP for Burnaby-Douglas, said he wouldn't revoke his endorsement.

"I think it is a very important coalition of peace activists," he said. It is important to hear diverse opinions on issues such as the war in Iraq and the conflict between Palestine and Israel, he said. "It's a very important group in Vancouver," Siksay said, "(creating) dialogue about issues of war and peace."

Julian, MP for Burnaby-New Westminster, did not return calls before press time.

 

http://www.burnabynow.com/news/Taking+sides+battle+over/3892192/story.html

PSG

In Manitoba, the Brandon NDP Women's Association is catching flack from the NDP brass because they endorsed George Galloway's speaking engagement in Winnipeg. 

More here: http://paulsgraham.ca/index.php/2010/11/29/manitoba-ndp-witch-hunt-regar...

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

Thanks for the heads up PSG. This is truly disgusting on the part of the Manitoba NDP brass. Galloway has never said an unkind word about the NDP, yet they are falling over themselves trying to defame and slander him, and label his ideas as outside the realm of acceptable debate.

A real anti-war party would be welcoming his presence and co-sponsoring his tour, for chrissakes.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Bill Siksay for Leader

NDPP

M. Spector wrote:

Thanks for the heads up PSG. This is truly disgusting on the part of the Manitoba NDP brass. Galloway has never said an unkind word about the NDP, yet they are falling over themselves trying to defame and slander him, and label his ideas as outside the realm of acceptable debate.

A real anti-war party would be welcoming his presence and co-sponsoring his tour, for chrissakes.

NDPP

ergo they are NOT 'a real anti-war party'. A pity he so misses the boat on 9/11 though...

genstrike

We have to remember on this move two things:

1. It's the Winnipeg Jewish Review.  It is an internet publication edited by someone who appears to be extremely erratic to say the least.  I have had the displeasure of watching this "journalist" (sic) cover events before.  Her behaviour is erratic, she can't write worth a damn, and she seems to think screaming at someone and writing down everything they say counts as an interview.

2. It's Christine Melnick.  Her political views seem to be much more supportive of Israeli apartheid than anyone else in the NDP caucus (yes, probably even Chomiak), and that's saying something.  She has also actively worked to get IAW banned at the University of Manitoba.

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

Galloway's Ottawa speech now available on YouTube in Five Parts, beginning [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=538RFWgORWU]HERE[/url]

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