NDP Leadership - Round 9

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NDP Leadership - Round 9

Continued from here.

Wilf Day

"Starting at the Topp" says Aaron Wherry in Maclean's:

http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/09/12/starting-at-the-topp/

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Charlie Angus thought about it and decided not to seek the NDP leadership. Peggy Nash and Peter Julian say they’re respectively considering it. Romeo Saganash says he’s still consulting. And Thomas Mulcair says the pool into which he may leap is filling up nicely.

But this morning at 11am Brian Topp will convene reporters in regards to “his intention to seek the leadership of the New Democratic Party of Canada.”

"Reach for the Topp!" says Kady O'Malley

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/inside-politics-blog/2011/09/orders-of-the-day---reach-for-the-topp.html

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. . . we'll just spend that time coming up with increasingly tortured Topp-related headline puns, of which there appears to be an all but inexhaustible supply . . .

Hannah Thibedeau:

Francois Boivin will join #NDP Pres Brian Topp's announcement #cdnpoli

 

robbie_dee

The [url=http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/brian-topp-... and Broadbent endorsements[/url] are big news and will make me take a second look at Topp. I'd been leaning towards Mulcair before, although I'd still like to see who else is in the field.

lil.Tommy

robbie_dee wrote:

The [url=http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/brian-topp-... and Broadbent endorsements[/url] are big news and will make me take a second look at Topp. I'd been leaning towards Mulcair before, although I'd still like to see who else is in the field.

My Thoughts exactly... i am not a fan that Topp has zero elected political experience, and am still leaning towards Tom until i see who else, and what they are proposing.

Anyone have an idea who might endorse Tom?

Wilf Day

Hard to see Peggy Nash running against Topp after Ed's endorsement.

I hope Peter Julian and Megan Leslie run, otherwise the field could look a bit sparse.

Hunky_Monkey

Wilf Day wrote:

Hard to see Peggy Nash running against Topp after Ed's endorsement.

I hope Peter Julian and Megan Leslie run, otherwise the field could look a bit sparse.

Why, Wilf?

I respect Ed but he's not god.

I think a lot of people will base their vote on who they think will be the best leader and Prime Minister in waiting... not who else may think so.

Ed backed Jack. Turned out well. Ed wanted Audrey in 1989 as well. That didn't work out so well.

Howard

I assume Topp will be using briantopp.ca (it looks like it is on the verge of going live) which was only registered May 23, 2011. In other words, after the NDP's landslide in Québec and before Topp ran for party president. This suggests Topp's interest in running for the NDP was spurred by the better circumstances of the NDP and that running for party president was a move to boost his profile, recently cut short. Opportunistic?

ETA: Topp said he will be headed to BC, where he will likely receive warm support from BC NDP leader Adrian Dix or others in his entourage. Topp and Dix share a CV as backroom boys. Dix however had 6 years of effective service as a high profile opposition MLA before he ran for his party's leadership.

Wilf Day

Howard wrote:
I assume he will be using briantopp.ca (it looks like it is on the verge of going live) which was only registered May 23, 2011. In other words, after the NDP's landslide in Québec and before Topp ran for party president.

The convention had been scheduled for months. Peggy Nash was not going to continue as Party President if she won her seat. She did on May 2. Immediately thereafter, and well before May 23, people would have been looking for someone to take on that job, and Brian agreed. Registering briantopp.ca was such an obvious move to any experienced political activist I'm surprised he hadn't done so earlier.

Howard

Wilf Day wrote:

Hard to see Peggy Nash running against Topp after Ed's endorsement.

I hope Peter Julian and Megan Leslie run, otherwise the field could look a bit sparse.

That would be a shame because Peggy Nash is a very talented person. I don't support Topp, but before I get too caught up in the reasons why I don't support Topp, I'll say a few nice things: Topp has wonderful French, he is very intelligent, he has been committed to the NDP, and he ran a good leadership launch. Don't like him, though.

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A Topp versus Mulcair race is sure to really excite the public.  Laughing

Does anybody have any idea what policy areas they might highlight to differentiate themselves from one another?  Or does that matter?

 

lil.Tommy

Northern Shoveler wrote:

A Topp versus Mulcair race is sure to really excite the public.  Laughing

Does anybody have any idea what policy areas they might highlight to differentiate themselves from one another?  Or does that matter?

 I think it should absolutely matter!

Charles

Wilf Day wrote:

Hard to see Peggy Nash running against Topp after Ed's endorsement.

I hope Peter Julian and Megan Leslie run, otherwise the field could look a bit sparse.

 

I certainly hope Nash's candidacy is not impacted by this one whit. Everyone loves Broadbent, hell I love Broadbent but he is not some kind of soothsayer/godlike presence. If that's the case let's cancel the convention and let Ed choose.

I am supporting Mulcair but I want to see a good race with different ideas and personalities challenging each other. One of the things that has been so satisfying thus far is the quality of the names bandied about. Robert Chisholm is someone I have deeply admired and worked for in the past; Peter Julian I have known for many years and think the world of him, and think he'd make a terrific leader; Megan Leslie is one of the most inspiring people in politics right now, and I'm proud as hell to have her as my MP; what I know of Romeo Saganash is nothing but terrific; while many have knocked Paul Dewar, he's been a pretty solid MP; and Peggy Nash would be my second choice for leader, she remains one of the most impressive people in the House of Commons and her return to the house was one of the highlights of the election. She would make an amazing leader. The idea that she or anyone else on the list would decide not to run because of Ed's latest laying on of hands is horrifying. 

Topp seems to be benefitting from sitting at the cool kids' table. He's the ultimate insider guy and insiders are drawn to insiders. That said I don't think party leader is an entry-level job. I'm disappointed by how much the process has felt like some folks are gaming the system. The Ed endorsement smacks of that but hey, he's a person and people will make their choices for whatever their reasons. I'm leaning another way for my own reasons. 

knownothing knownothing's picture

Pretty fishy.

OnTheLeft OnTheLeft's picture

Charles wrote:

I am supporting Mulcair but I want to see a good race with different ideas and personalities challenging each other.

Topp seems to be benefitting from sitting at the cool kids' table. He's the ultimate insider guy and insiders are drawn to insiders. That said I don't think party leader is an entry-level job. I'm disappointed by how much the process has felt like some folks are gaming the system. The Ed endorsement smacks of that but hey, he's a person and people will make their choices for whatever their reasons. I'm leaning another way for my own reasons. 

Agreed. Topp has the brains, the passion and is a brilliant strategist, along with being bilingual, but he has zero electoral experience, has never run for any public office, nor has he held any office. He doesn't strike me as particularly charismatic (but rather quite bland), nor as an electrifying speaker. He will be characterized as an opportunistic insider elitist with the media, Conservatives and Liberals having a field day. I am really looking forward to see who else jumps into the leadership race, but meanwhile, the media and Conservatives seem to really fear Mulcair, with the media hell bent on smearing and attempting to destroy him. The media's disdain for Mulcair is very similar to their treatment of Layton when he ran for the leadership, and perhaps view him as a genuine threat who could put the NDP over the top in 2015.   

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Just because the right wing media are vilifying the person they see as the likely winner doesn't mean they fear him more than anyone else it just means they are vilifying him.  Besides its not like the talking heads get it right on even a semi-regular basis so who really cares if they think the race is between Mulcair and Topp.  These are the same clowns that went after Jack in the last election for wanting to play with the two real contenders for PM.  

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I agree and hear what you're saying, but still, the media certainly have the knives out for Mulcair, moreso (so far) than Davies, Julian, Nash, Topp, Dewar, Boivon etc. They're scared.

Wilf Day
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If I was a Mulcair supporter I would love the story that the right wing fears my candidate the most.  Makes for another good reason to support him.  HMMM

flight from kamakura

topp's french is indeed quite good.  i don't at all blame him for bringing in ed and francoise, it makes the entire event that much more of a news story, and gives credence to his role as another 'frontrunner'.  while i'm not 100% convinced on mulcair, i'm still strongly leaning his way, and nothing topp said really changes that.  his announcement speech today was compelling, but the lack of parliamentary experience just eliminates him from even basic consideration at this juncture, when we have a muclair who is comes off like being genetically-engineered to be the perfect left parliamentarian.  still, i look forward to the debate.

he sounds very earnest, it'll be interesting to con contrast with mulcair whenever he announces http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/1221258968/ID=2126660505

JeffWells

Howard wrote:
I don't support Topp, but before I get too caught up in the reasons why I don't support Topp, I'll say a few nice things: Topp has wonderful French, he is very intelligent, he has been committed to the NDP, and he ran a good leadership launch. Don't like him, though.

Agreed.

My reservations aside, he is a quality candidate, and I'll be glad to hear more from him during the campaign.

I've always perceived Topp to be the establishment's choice, so Broadbent's presence didn't surprise me. It was Boivin's presence that did.

Here's to a strong field and a debate of ideas.

 

Hunky_Monkey

Charles wrote:

I certainly hope Nash's candidacy is not impacted by this one whit. Everyone loves Broadbent, hell I love Broadbent but he is not some kind of soothsayer/godlike presence. If that's the case let's cancel the convention and let Ed choose.

I love Ed... but I have to wonder how much of an impact this endorsement will have today.

Ed was leader in the late 70's to late 80's. He left the leadership 22 years ago. Our party has changed since then with regard to membership and new support. Just think about all the young Quebec voters who voted NDP for the first time... some weren't even born when Ed was leader. Think about all the Quebecers who voted for the NDP for the first time waiting to be signed up to the party... how much emotional attachement will they have with Ed?

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flight from kamakura wrote:

he sounds very earnest, it'll be interesting to con contrast with mulcair whenever he announces http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/1221258968/ID=2126660505

"We don't have to become Liberals to win. We don't have to abandon the foundations, the values, the heart and soul of our party to win."

High five for Topp on that one.

NicHull

Brian Topp has very good qualifications but I'd prefer someone with public office as well as activism experience. Jack wasn't a parliamentarian when he was elected but he had plenty of experience at Toronto City Hall and was front and centre in many public issues battles. Plus, being the Leader of the Official Opposition without a seat is a weakness for the Party. I really hope Romeo Saganash will run since I'm very impressed by his experience and think he'd bring a fresh perspective. For the time being, I'm keeping my mind open.

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I just had a daydream/flash of Topp being acclaimed because after his entry was backed by Broadbent and Boivin no one else wanted to enter the race. Surprised

Caissa

I think Topp is going to position himself as the heir of Jack's legacy. Since he was involved in writing the Letter he can portray himself as being in complete assnt with it. I'll be interested to see how the candidates choose to differentiate themselves. And we know, Boom Boom, that the Socialist Caucus will be putting forth a candidate. Unless of course they choose to endorse Topp. Wink Nah, hell hasn't frozen over yet. 

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Caissa wrote:

 And we know, Boom Boom, that the Socialist Caucus will be putting forth a candidate. Unless of course they choose to endorse Topp. Wink Nah, hell hasn't frozen over yet. 

LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing

JeffWells

In his press conference, Topp very wisely refused to adorn himself with Jack's mantle. I think he will be covertly running as heir, but I was impressed by his political smarts to not come right out and say it.

 

Howard

flight from kamakura wrote:

topp's french is indeed quite good.  i don't at all blame him for bringing in ed and francoise, it makes the entire event that much more of a news story, and gives credence to his role as another 'frontrunner'.  while i'm not 100% convinced on mulcair, i'm still strongly leaning his way, and nothing topp said really changes that.  his announcement speech today was compelling, but the lack of parliamentary experience just eliminates him from even basic consideration at this juncture, when we have a muclair who is comes off like being genetically-engineered to be the perfect left parliamentarian.  still, i look forward to the debate.

he sounds very earnest, it'll be interesting to con contrast with mulcair whenever he announces http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/1221258968/ID=2126660505

Good point flight from kamakura, Topp's entry will force Mulcair to raise his game. That is not a bad thing.

Sine Ziegler

robbie_dee wrote:

The [url=http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/brian-topp-... and Broadbent endorsements[/url] are big news and will make me take a second look at Topp. I'd been leaning towards Mulcair before, although I'd still like to see who else is in the field.

 

I was impressed with his news presser today. Of course I am still keeping my mind open as well. Topp has a lot of great qualities, but unlike Broadbent, I won't say that he has the top qualifications compared to all other candidates, because we don't even know who all the candidates are yet. 

Sine Ziegler

 

Thanks Wilf. I agree with supporting as many MPs and others to run for the leadership so that we may have many choices of diverse and qualified people to chose from. Anyone know of any other leadership draft campaigns/sites?

 

 

Hunky_Monkey

Sine Ziegler wrote:
Topp has a lot of great qualities, but unlike Broadbent, I won't say that he has the top qualifications compared to all other candidates, because we don't even know who all the candidates are yet. 

He lacks one qualification... he's never been elected to public office. I like Topp but to be honest, his candidacy scares the hell out of me. Here's a guy that's been in the backrooms for his political life and then decides he wants the top job of the party as leader... and top job in the country as Prime Minister?

He compared himself to Brian Mulroney... and while few of us on here agree with Mulroney's politics, it's easy to say that Brian Topp is no Brian Mulroney when it comes to political skills. Many say let's see what he got... we saw that today... and we've seen that when he's a commentator... zero charisma. And gravitas?

Will he be the federal NDP's Michael Cassidy?

I also have concerns that a group of insiders want one of their own. Is this best for them or best for the party?

We have so much at stake. We made such a breakthrough last spring and lets be honest... Quebec could easily say goodbye to many of our new caucus members in the next election if we don't pick the right person to lead us. This is probably the most important leadership campaign the federal party will have as we're picking a Prime Minister in waiting.

Krago

Trivia question: Who was the last candidate that Francoise Boivin endorsed at a leadership convention?

Stockholm

Hunky_Monkey wrote:
I love Ed... but I have to wonder how much of an impact this endorsement will have today. Ed was leader in the late 70's to late 80's. He left the leadership 22 years ago. Our party has changed since then with regard to membership and new support. Just think about all the young Quebec voters who voted NDP for the first time... some weren't even born when Ed was leader. Think about all the Quebecers who voted for the NDP for the first time waiting to be signed up to the party... how much emotional attachement will they have with Ed?

Yes, but so what? Winning the NDP leadership is largely about getting the votes of people who are CURRENT card-carrying NDP members - very few of those people are in Quebec right now and most of the current membership are people who know who Ed Broadbent is and will give a lot of weight to his opinion. Topp has lots of time to attract votes from new members in Quebec - right now he needs to establish his bona fides as a top tier contender who is backed by "opinion leaders" in the NDP.

Hunky_Monkey

Stockholm wrote:

Yes, but so what? Winning the NDP leadership is largely about getting the votes of people who are CURRENT card-carrying NDP members - very few of those people are in Quebec right now and most of the current membership are people who know who Ed Broadbent is and will give a lot of weight to his opinion. Topp has lots of time to attract votes from new members in Quebec - right now he needs to establish his bona fides as a top tier contender who is backed by "opinion leaders" in the NDP.

And even current card-carrying New Democrats have changed a lot especially in the last 8 years. Many signed up under Jack Layton's leadership... not Ed's or the two leaders before Jack and after Ed.

Not saying people don't know who Ed is. Just saying it's not as big as it would be 8 years ago when the party was on life support... or 22 years ago when he was leader.

Howard

Another strike against Topp is his endorsement by Dawn Black. She quit as MP months after being elected in fall 2008 to run provincially for the BC NDP in spring 2009. She retired from the BC NDP half-way through a first mandate after antagonising members of caucus, some of which spilled into the public, over the the putsch to remove Carole James. Dawn Black was supposed to be an interim leader that smoothed the transition to a new leader. Dawn Black was also NDP defence critic during a brief period when the NDP started fogging up the mirror on whether or not the party thought Canada should withdraw immediately from Afghanistan. Instead Black spoke about shifting the mission to a humanitarian one and moving troops from a counter-insurgency to a security role- essentially identical to the Liberal position at the time and now seemingly identical to the status quo (e.g. Conservative position). Had the NDP run on Black's comments in the last election in Québec, the wave wouldn't have happened. One of the key wedges the NDP ran on to differentiate themselves from the Bloc Québecois was the NDP's supposed steadfast call for the troops to return from Afghanistan. Someone should ask Topp where he stands on Afghanistan.

ETA: There is no mention of it or peace in Topp's campaign launch. It is reported that he was co-chair of the 2010 NDP platform committee, which issued a platform that called for billions to be spent on warships (the Joint Support Ships) for the Canadian Navy. It is also the platform that got torn apart in the media for its "science fiction" costing.

ETA2: I would be interested in where Topp stands on carbon pricing as a way of addressing climate change given as he helped run a national NDP campaign against carbon taxes and recently had been helping the BC NDP prepare for a campaign where all of a sudden carbon taxes, the environment, etc are okay again. Now that he doesn't have to speak for his bosses, what does he believe? Also does emoving the HST from home heating form part of Topp's vision of working towards a "better environment"?

flight from kamakura

during that news conference, boivin said that in just the past 2 weeks, without any campaign whatever, memberships in her riding were up 400%.  especially if mulcair repliques with a massive show of caucus support, and gets the new mps onto the task, quebec will come in from the cold. at any rate, because of recent leadership races, the majority of ndpers are now in the provinces west of ontario, and the membership signup pickings there will be much slimmer than in quebec and urban ontario, which could be decisive.

just in terms of strategy, i do worry that if mulcair does manage to replique to topp's announcement with massive caucus support at the outset (like 40+ members), many potentially interesting regional candidates could elect not to run.  a romeo saganash would be a great candidate, with no chance of organizing the sort of campaign to bring the vote home, but the potential to be a true inspiration nonetheless.  another question i have is the unions.  there can be no doubt that, at the outset, topp would have the inside track with many of them, but i'd guess that much of the leadership there would want to sit back for a while to see how it all develops.  there's no real incentive for them to try to take mulcair out if he's looking like he'll win it all, they want a winner as much as we do, but being union folks, they'll also want to make sure their interests are protected.  so in that context, it looks like we have topp with jack's team, a few mps and party figures, a host of good media contacts, a lot of party connections and favors he can call in, and potentially some robust union support.  against that, we have mulcair with an extremely high profile in quebec, a potentially massive level of caucus support (not just quebec, but following some recent comments by mps from all parts of the country, it could be very deep, indeed), a much more aggressive and full-throated personal style, political skills and cunning at least rivaling those of topp, plus the intangible that the guy is a winner, everything about him exudes it.  another intangible, every time i hear pat martin talk about it at length, he has mulcair's back, and who would want to mess with pat martin?  so it's the best of the backroom versus the best of the frontbench.  not much space for other candidates, really much more of a question of what sort of approach we want to leadership.

another note on the timing: this was obviously done to influence the flow of conversation at the caucus meeting in quebec city, a clear move to attempt to forestall any rush to mulcair and probably also to instill a sense of momentum behind calls that topp and his subordinates will make on his behalf over the next days.  man, i love leadership races.  this is going to be amazing.

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Krago wrote:

Trivia question: Who was the last candidate that Francoise Boivin endorsed at a leadership convention?

I gave her the benefit of the doubt and picked Dion but was wrong she liked Iggy. So she didn't back the left horse winner in that leadership election.  Iggy never really won a leadership race he just picked up the crown when Dion was knifed in the back.  

Howard

Northern Shoveler wrote:

Krago wrote:

Trivia question: Who was the last candidate that Francoise Boivin endorsed at a leadership convention?

I gave her the benefit of the doubt and picked Dion but was wrong she liked Iggy. So she didn't back the left horse winner in that leadership election.  Iggy never really won a leadership race he just picked up the crown when Dion was knifed in the back.  

Who do you think was holding the knife?

Tommy_Paine

"We don't have to become Liberals to win. We don't have to abandon the foundations, the values, the heart and soul of our party to win."

Well, that's certainly a departure from the Brian Topp who tried to broker the coalition.  A coalition-- if it came to fruition-- that would have given the Liberal political machine the keys to the treasury back, and breathed new life into it.

Even during negotiations, when the Liberals made it clear they were the ones doing us a favour (!!!???) and that they were not-- in these hard times-- going to sunder it's subordinate position to Bay Street and Banksters Topp still persued giving a life line to the Liberals.

I invite an argument over the deffinitions of tactics and strategy.  Topp might have some tactical smarts.  But strategically, I think he is very myopic.

OnTheLeft OnTheLeft's picture

^ Jack Layton was also a strong proponent of the coalition. So what. A Liberal-NDP coalition government, where we have some say, is a lot better than Harper.

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Wow Pat Martin kicked ass on the wheat board today on Power Play. For a Liberal he sure sounds like a socialist when he wants to. Don Martin was asking Gerry Ritz tougher questions than Solomon did. You can totally tell that Pat Martin is trying to behave but he gets worked up near the end. He calls it a "deluded free market wet-dream" and he calls Ritz an ostrich farmer from North Battleford, Saskatchewan...hilarious!

http://watch.ctv.ca/news/#clip530777

Don also gave a tougher interview to Brian Topp and he opened up with asking him why he was leaked a story that Topp was the "frontrunner" 1! day after Layton's death.

Oh yeah, and Topp's answer: "Journalists will do what they do"

http://watch.ctv.ca/news/#clip530760

Tommy_Paine

OnTheLeft wrote:

^ Jack Layton was also a strong proponent of the coalition. So what. A Liberal-NDP coalition government, where we have some say, is a lot better than Harper.

Not everything Jack Layton did was perfect. (gasp!)  I thought that was one of Layton's worst mistakes, and said so at the time and I will say it now.   It. Was. A. Dumb. Idea. 

No, a coalition would have been worse than Harper, because the Liberals would have dragged the NDP along with it while it did Harper like things.

And, at the next election we'd be sitting with either Harper or Iggy as P.M., and the NDP at 25 seats as the distant third party. 

Stockholm

flight from kamakura wrote:

during that news conference, boivin said that in just the past 2 weeks, without any campaign whatever, memberships in her riding were up 400%.

Hopefully that doesn't mean it went from 5 to 20!

nicky

Mulcair leads Topp 14 to 3 with many undecided:

 

A Leger poll conducted for QMI Agency indicates 51% of Canadians polled have no idea who could best lead the New Democrats.

Out of a list of five names, the two top choices - with 14% each - were NDP deputy leader Thomas Mulcair and Layton's widow, New Democrat MP Olivia Chow.

Mulcair, who is considering a run at the leadership, did better in his home province, where 46% of respondents picked the Quebec MP as top choice.

Chow, meanwhile, recently said she won't run and is committed to staying neutral during the race.

Party president Brian Topp and interim NDP leader Nycole Turmel tied at 3% support

 

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/09/12/ndp-leader-race-still-wide-open-poll

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Tommy_Paine wrote:

Not everything Jack Layton did was perfect. (gasp!)  I thought that was one of Layton's worst mistakes, and said so at the time and I will say it now.   It. Was. A. Dumb. Idea. 

No, a coalition would have been worse than Harper, because the Liberals would have dragged the NDP along with it while it did Harper like things.

And, at the next election we'd be sitting with either Harper or Iggy as P.M., and the NDP at 25 seats as the distant third party. 

 

Really? What else can you see in your crystal ball?

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Lets not attack boivin for her past when we don't know if she's changed or that if she's wisened, she may have crossed the ideological desert as many politicians have done throughout history, but I'm glad that she's in the NDP. S

 

Also attacking the hst, which is a regressive tax on consumers, is a good thing. You have to take into consideration that there is a rural Canada that doesn't have the awesome public transit we have in the south. There are no alternatives and pushes for a green energy economy at the moment from sir harpalot. I don't think that people would switch to greener transportation/alternatives when there are no incentives and true oppertunities to do so and instead would feel angry if they were getting more taxes. The reality of the enviromental catastrophe that we've created by dumping whatever we felt like into the atmosphere will probably be resolved when we start realize we can just creatively dump other things into the atmosphere(Geoengineering, which should be discussed ALOT more)  Anyways I'm getting off topic and I'm running out of liquor,  the focus should be on progressive taxation.

 

I'd personally wait for a debate or two until I decide who I will vote for.

Howard

The coalition was one of Topp's smarter moves in my opinion. Topp and the media spun it as the NDP holding the whip hand in the negotiations, despite being the smallest party in the talks, and the next election the electorate decimated the NDP's two coalition partners and handed the NDP the job of opposition. If Topp made mistakes with the coalition, they are that he was completely blind to the fact that a government propped up by the Bloc Québecois was DOA for the non-Québec public (it didn't even occur to him in his painfully self-congratulatory book or columns until Chantal Hébert pointed it out). That being said, the coalition was extremely popular in Québec and probably helped the NDP generate its 2011 wave. The NDP's slogan in Québec was "Travaillons ensemble" meaning "Let's work together." It was a direct reference to the popular, but failed, coalition. It was a direct reference to the repeated polls showing the idea of an NDP-Liberal merger or co-operation being very popular in Québec. 

As for Boivin's endorsement, it is certainly not a bad thing. For the last couple elections she has been fêted as one of the NDP's star candidates in Québec. Furthermore, she followed a similar path as Mulcair to find her way in to the NDP. In honour of Krago, new trivia: who's phone call did Boivin credit with convincing her to run for the New Democrats?

adma

The big, maybe tactless but everybody's-thinking-about-it question: will he be running in Toronto-Danforth?

samuelolivier

After watching Topp's press conference, I have to admit I will take a closer look at him and look forward to see him debating. Françoise Boivin pointed out a few really interesting points that got me more interested in his candidacy.

I still strongly believe Topp doesn't have the charisma to be engaging the Quebec population the way Jack Layton did. But he is certainly a strong added value to the race.

I am really thrilled at the idea of having Tom Mulcair and Brian Topp being part of the same leadership race with a few other strong candidates like Romeo Saganash, Megan Leslie, Paul Dewar, Peggy Nash and Pat Martin (as the "merger" advocate). It will showcase to the Canadians and the Quebeckers how amazing some of the MPs and leaders of the NDP are.

 

 

David Young

I don't care about Boivin's prior history.

I remember Pauline Jewett, who was elected to Parliament as an Ontario Liberal in 1963, lost in 1965, quit the Liberals after the War Measures Act was implimented, and became an NDP MP from 1979 to 1988 in New Westminister-Burnaby.  She was one of the best MPs during the years of the Mulroney landslide.  She was an inspiration to the female candidates who won seats in the NDP's previous best showing in 1988 in B.C. (Dawn Black, Joy Langdon, Lynn Hunter), just like Boivin was to some of the Quebec female candidates in 2011. 

And as for Topp running in Toronto-Danforth, the by-election will have to be called before the Leadership Convention takes place, so Harper could announce a date before March 24th, to create a little diversion from the Convention.

 

Howard

knownothing wrote:

Don also gave a tougher interview to Brian Topp and he opened up with asking him why he was leaked a story that Topp was the "frontrunner" 1! day after Layton's death.

Oh yeah, and Topp's answer: "Journalists will do what they do"

http://watch.ctv.ca/news/#clip530760

To me that exchange is already one of the iconic ones of Topp's candidacy. His answer was not reassuring.

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