NDP remains the top choice for First Nations on reserves

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Mighty Middle
NDP remains the top choice for First Nations on reserves

The NDP received 58.4 per cent of the vote in polling divisions located entirely on reserves in 2011

In 2015 it was 46.4 per cent and this past October (2019) 40.2 per cent

The Liberals finished second behind the NDP three elections in a row, with the Conservative a distant third all three elections.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-on-reserve-voting-2019-1.5417763

 

 

Sean in Ottawa

The NDP has to show that it is viable to keep this support level: that means making a difference or able to grow. Otherwise people could turn to other parties, new parties or not voting.

I can make the same comment generally: the NDP was always relatively small but growing. Going backwards is different than it was before it showed more potential. Without being able to bring it home, the NDP runs the risk of being a long-term failed experiment.

The reason support held this time is a testament to the lies and broken promises of the LPC. That does not mean that the NDP can count on this support in the future as either the LPC could perhaps decide to keep a promise to them some day. More likely they could abandon voting or form a new party themselves. If they did many others would consider voting for it I think....

iyraste1313

 or form a new party themselves. If they did many others would consider voting for it I think....

thanks for this...I have written some indigenous MPs/NDP re their lack of critical response to Canada´s support for the coup and ongoing repression vs. the Indigenous president and Party in Bolivia...what is obvious to me. based on the cowardly nature of the so called opposition Parties, is the need to build a sincere alternative, based on promoting truth and justice, not pandering to political opportunism....

kropotkin1951

I think the NDP needs to stand up and champion the UN committees view of UNDRIP and Site C, Coast Gas and TMX. Anything less is paying lip service to the rights set out in the Charter and UNDRIP, because those rights have to provide the right to deny consent for projects on their territories or they are meaningless.

VANCOUVER - A United Nations committee working to end racism is urging Canada to immediately stop the construction of three major resource projects until it obtains approval from affected First Nations.

The Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, which monitors a convention to end racial discrimination signed by countries including Canada, is calling for a suspension of the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion, Site C dam and Coastal GasLink pipeline.

The committee, made up of 18 experts, says in a written directive last month that it is concerned by the approval and construction of the three projects without the free, prior and informed consent of impacted Indigenous groups.

It also says it's disturbed by law enforcement's "forced removal, disproportionate use of force, harassment and intimidation" and "escalating threat of violence" against Indigenous Peoples.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/arts-and-life/life/greenpage/un-racism...

 

Sean in Ottawa

kropotkin1951 wrote:

I think the NDP needs to stand up and champion the UN committees view of UNDRIP and Site C, Coast Gas and TMX. Anything less is paying lip service to the rights set out in the Charter and UNDRIP, because those rights have to provide the right to deny consent for projects on their territories or they are meaningless.

VANCOUVER - A United Nations committee working to end racism is urging Canada to immediately stop the construction of three major resource projects until it obtains approval from affected First Nations.

The Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, which monitors a convention to end racial discrimination signed by countries including Canada, is calling for a suspension of the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion, Site C dam and Coastal GasLink pipeline.

The committee, made up of 18 experts, says in a written directive last month that it is concerned by the approval and construction of the three projects without the free, prior and informed consent of impacted Indigenous groups.

It also says it's disturbed by law enforcement's "forced removal, disproportionate use of force, harassment and intimidation" and "escalating threat of violence" against Indigenous Peoples.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/arts-and-life/life/greenpage/un-racism...

 

I totally agree.

When I say others could vote for an Indigenous party -- I mean that I am one of them. The NDP should take note that when it does nt stand for things strongly enough it cannot assume that it can keep the votes of people who care. I am sure there is a lot of support outside Indigenous people for them and the NDP risks finding out at their peril just how many are now voting NDP.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

The fall from 58% to 40% in only two elections is depressing and ominous.

It says the NDP is in serious danger of losing that vote to other parties.

 

iyraste1313

should take note that when it does nt stand for things strongly enough it cannot assume that it can keep the votes of people who care....

This is precisely why a new option is so critical....as a force politically...This must be the work of anti imperialist socialist leftists

Mighty Middle

Ken Burch wrote:

The fall from 58% to 40% in only two elections is depressing and ominous.

It says the NDP is in serious danger of losing that vote to other parties.

In 2011 Jack Layton was able to convince Canadians to vote for who you want, which resulted in the NDP highest seat count ever

2015 & 2019 were "strategic voting" elections and both NDP leaders at that time couldn't convince Canadians not to vote strategically, hence the drop of support.

Pondering

4.9%, so say 5%, of Canadians are indigenous peoples. That is significant but non-essential. The reason the NDP is still so lackluster with that population is still significant because the reasons might be the same reasons other Canadians don't find the NDP appealing. 

Pondering

Mighty Middle wrote:

Ken Burch wrote:

The fall from 58% to 40% in only two elections is depressing and ominous.

It says the NDP is in serious danger of losing that vote to other parties.

In 2011 Jack Layton was able to convince Canadians to vote for who you want, which resulted in the NDP highest seat count ever

2015 & 2019 were "strategic voting" elections and both NDP leaders at that time couldn't convince Canadians not to vote strategically, hence the drop of support.

All elections are strategic voting elections. Comes down to the last two weeks when people place their final bets. 

I often come across this notion that the NDP has a significant following that votes Liberal strategically. I don't see it. In my opinion most voters do not see themselves as supporters of any political party even if they almost always vote for that party. I think it is pretty much the default that people are voting for the lesser evil not for someone. 

https://biv.com/article/2019/02/canadians-put-more-trust-their-own-employers-politicians-survey

Perhaps more surprisingly, respondents in Canada had more trust in their own employers (80%) than either business in general (56%) or government (53%). In addition, as much as 67% said it’s “critically important” for their companies’ CEOs to take charge in challenging economic times, and 54% looking at employers as a trusted source of information on issues where there’s not general public agreement.

For Anderson, the responses show the degree of fear felt by the Canadian public in light of economic and social uncertainty. The survey found only 34% of the mass public – respondents who do not fit the “informed public” criteria of being between ages 25 and 64, college-educated, regular consumers of public policy and business news, and among the top 25% in household income in their age groups – believe their lives will be better in five years’ time.

This is scary. The left has to rebuilt trust in government as a an entity to deliver good. 

 

NDPP

Time to get fucking real about our settler-state and the collaborative efforts of all settler-political parties to keep it that way, no matter their lies and lipservice to the contrary.

Canada's Cops Were Ready to Shoot Indigenous Anti-Pipeline Activists

https://therealnews.com/stories/canada-rcmp-shoot-indigenous-pipeline-ac...

"RCMP officers were instructed to use as much violence as they wanted at the blockade of the Coastal Gaslink Pipeline. Kananhus Manuel, an Indgenous activist in British Columbia said it's part of Canada's long colonial legacy.

Pondering

An indigeneous 12 year old girl and her grandfather were recently handcuffed at the BMO when he tried to open an account for her even though he had been banking there for years because the attendent thought there was something wrong with their paperwork. 

Not trying to minimize the sniper issue it's just jawdropping to me that they would be handcuffed for nothing more than paperwork being odd. They were just opening a bank account not even cashing any cheques. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/indigenous-girl-grandfather-handcuffed-bank-1.5419519

NDPP

It's all of a piece and this fits perfectly. Settler-states act like this.