NDP Toronto Danforth Candidate

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Stockholm

There is so little Tory support in Toronto-Danforth in the first place that there are virtually no voters for them to "instruct". There is nothing there!

Stockholm

Boy the Danforth byelection is turning into more of a Liberal trainwreck every day!

Now itseems that anti-abortion freaks are staging a hostile takeover of the riding association...btw: its interesting to note that the anti-abortion guy trying to get the Liberal nomination ran twice for the Green Party....so much for Elizabeth May's "quality control"

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/breakingnews/liberals-fear-pro-l...

Lord Palmerston

Quote:
"They couldn’t find anybody and they were hoping for somebody to come out of the woodwork. And I’m sure they made all kinds of pitches,” said Nelson Wiseman, a political science professor at the University of Toronto. “It’s an incredibly bad omen.”

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1129106--liberals-pick-newcomer-gran...               

Wilf Day

Lord Palmerston wrote:

Quote:
"They couldn’t find anybody and they were hoping for somebody to come out of the woodwork. And I’m sure they made all kinds of pitches,” said Nelson Wiseman, a political science professor at the University of Toronto. “It’s an incredibly bad omen.”

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1129106--liberals-pick-newcomer-gran...               

Grant Gordon doesn't even have a Wikipedia page yet. But his partner does:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gill_Deacon

Howard

But Grant Gordon isn't even the candidate in Toronto-Danforth. Interim Leader Bob Rae is:

flight from kamakura

assessment:  rae poster is great for them; candidate poster's list of qualifications almost makes me laugh up against our candidate.

oldgoat

OMG, ... co-founder of the Toronto Bridge Club.  He's running for the Senate, right?

Stockholm

To think tha the liberals described Craig Scott as "lackluster"!! He's a Rhodes Scholar and co-author of the South African constitution and the Liberals run the founder of the Toronto Bridge Club?? I wonder if he plays "Blackwood Conventio"?

Lord Palmerston

I'm going to steal that!

edmundoconnor

Just when you thought Andrew Lang couldn't stir the pot any longer, look who pops up. Ah, Liberals: the blood feuds never disappoint.

 

edmundoconnor

oldgoat wrote:

OMG, ... co-founder of the Toronto Bridge Club.  He's running for the Senate, right?

If so, he's over-qualified.

janfromthebruce

Can anyone "trump" that juicy retort?

 

oldgoat wrote:

OMG, ... co-founder of the Toronto Bridge Club.  He's running for the Senate, right?

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janfromthebruce

I guess Mr. tor bridge founder had more support from Lib insiders than Lang. Lang sounds bitter and twisted  - and how different is that?

Howard

janfromthebruce wrote:

I guess Mr. tor bridge founder had more support from Lib insiders than Lang. Lang sounds bitter and twisted  - and how different is that?

"We're listening. We're changing. We want you* back."

*Andrew Langs not included.

flight from kamakura

edmundoconnor wrote:

oldgoat wrote:

OMG, ... co-founder of the Toronto Bridge Club.  He's running for the Senate, right?

If so, he's over-qualified.

 

hahahahhah!

flight from kamakura

the south african constitution, by the way, has the strongest gay rights protects of any constitution on the planet earth.

a neat bbc radio doc on how it happened: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/worldservice/docarchive/docarchive_2...

Stockholm

janfromthebruce wrote:

Can anyone "trump" that juicy retort?

 

oldgoat wrote:

OMG, ... co-founder of the Toronto Bridge Club.  He's running for the Senate, right?

______________________________________________________________________________________ Our kids live together and play together in their communities, let's have them learn together too!

If he plays duplicate bridge - maybe he can try to be a duplicate of Andrew Lang!

David Young

janfromthebruce wrote:

Can anyone "trump" that juicy retort?

 

oldgoat wrote:

OMG, ... co-founder of the Toronto Bridge Club.  He's running for the Senate, right?

______________________________________________________________________________________ Our kids live together and play together in their communities, let's have them learn together too!

I guess Andrew is a Liberal because it 'suit's him.  He hopes that he's no 'dummy'.  We have to wonder if he has the 'heart' for politics in his 'bid' for the seat, but I think we can tell that he's just a 'card',

The better the pun, the bigger the groan!

 

janfromthebruce

Young almost hits a 'grand slam" but with 5 "tricks" he makes a small slam on ode to bridge founder - good one to all! Kiss

algomafalcon

Howard wrote:

But Grant Gordon isn't even the candidate in Toronto-Danforth. Interim Leader Bob Rae is:

 

The Liberals need to run that last scene from "Shane" as their campaign advertisement.

"Shane!.... Come back!...."

 

gunder

"Please vote for us.  We'll do anything. ANYTHING.  If we win a  by-election in Ontario, Bob Rae will sit in a dunk tank and let you throw rocks at him! We also have cookies.  Cookies? No?..."

lil.Tommy

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1131505--poll-ndp-will-win-toronto-danforth-byelection-by-wide-margin?bn=1

Not a fan of how this might make us complacent, and i just don't think we can take any riding for granted. I do not see that happening from the Team in TD, good on Scott for fighting for it!

As much as i agree with it, and hey who dosen't like an ego boost... it might just get people to not vote and whoops there goes the liberals who now are going to be desperate to get every last voter out.

nicky

If the Liberals lose as badly as the poll suggests then this will be a particulary harsh verdict on Rae. Consider:

1. He has had lots of recent publicity, most of it quite fawning.

2.He has campaigned openly in the riding with his picture prominently displayed on the candidate's literature (and at twice the size of the candidate)

3. This is his old federal riding where people presumably know him best.

lil.Tommy

nicky wrote:

If the Liberals lose as badly as the poll suggests then this will be a particulary harsh verdict on Rae. Consider:

1. He has had lots of recent publicity, most of it quite fawning.

2.He has campaigned openly in the riding with his picture prominently displayed on the candidate's literature (and at twice the size of the candidate)

3. This is his old federal riding where people presumably know him best.

4. Rae own riding is right next door Toronto Centre

Stockholm

The gap is not that great between the Liberals and the Torioes according to this poll. i think the Tories shoudl spend the legal maximum and see if they can drive the liberals into third place!

Howard

Stockholm wrote:

The gap is not that great between the Liberals and the Torioes according to this poll. i think the Tories shoudl spend the legal maximum and see if they can drive the liberals into third place!

That was my thought too. Assert the end of Liberal fortunes in the GTA.

janfromthebruce

So Howard and Stock want an NDP "grand slam" - Go Craig - make us proud - NDP Danforth riding association rocks!

janfromthebruce

you should visit the comment section of the paper and give a few ticks here and there. It looks like the few people working on the Libs campaign are trying to suggest the poll results are not true. lol

Winston

The Liberals have absolutely nothing to lose in this race.  If they lose, especially if their vote goes up, then they say it was clearly a safe NDP seat.  If they win, then we have serious, serious egg on our faces.

Howard

Winston wrote:

The Liberals have absolutely nothing to lose in this race.  If they lose, especially if their vote goes up, then they say it was clearly a safe NDP seat.  If they win, then we have serious, serious egg on our faces.

It's up to the NDP to get the Liberal vote low enough, so that the Tory vote can be high enough, to push the Liberals into third place.

Stockholm

But, the Liberals couldn't even win Bob Rae's old seat! If they can't win in the old fiefdom of Bob Rae - they cannot win ANYWHERE!

flight from kamakura

just remember what happened in winnipeg north - twice!  and that was under the igg

lil.Tommy

Agreed, like i mentioned we can't get over confident and take the riding fro granted. In the case of TD i don't see that happening, the party is putting a lot of resources and Scott continues to say "were not taking it for granted" :P I think we learned our lesson on the ground

the MAIN difference between WN and TD, is there is no strong Liberal candidate. Lamoureux was a legitemate "star" candidate which is something thankfully we don't have to worry about facing.

 

 

Stockholm

In Winnipeg North the NDP also had to contend with a provincial government that was in a bit of a popularity trough and a some latent (and not so latent) racism against an aboriginal candidate.

edmundoconnor

Winston wrote:

If they lose, especially if their vote goes up, then they say it was clearly a safe NDP seat.

Agreed, but that's pre-supposing they come in 2nd. The poll indicates that might not be the case. If they come in third, that would be a serious embarrassment to them.

NorthReport

I find it astonishing that the polls were showing a creep like Rae was doing so well while the NDP was going through its leadership race.

But seeing this poll makes one wonder whether those rumours of a total Liberal collapse are coming true after all.

I am not in any way suggesting complatency but hopefully after the by-election we can firmly put those nonsensical msp media comments about a Liberal recovery to rest once and for all.

It would warm my heart to see the Liberals end up in 3rd or even possibly 4th place.

NorthReport

Liberals and Buzz Hargrove know the drill as they have been spewing it out for years and years. Strategic voting. Well if that is the case, to keep the Cons at bay, the Liberals should all be jumping on the NDP bandwagon now shouldn't they!

janfromthebruce

 

ha ha ha - yeah, make sure to vote NDP because voting liberal is a waste of a vote. I am just saying what you mean NR - but I so dispised strategic voting because often it was done in races between NDP and liberal and the cons weren't even a factor.

NorthReport wrote:

Liberals and Buzz Hargrove know the drill as they have been spewing it out for years and years. Strategic voting. Well if that is the case, to keep the Cons at bay, the Liberals should all be jumping on the NDP bandwagon now shouldn't they!

______________________________________________________________________________________ Our kids live together and play together in their communities, let's have them learn together too!

radiorahim radiorahim's picture

Oh well...to all the Dippers who cheered when Bob Rae was chosen ONDP leader back in 82, I just keep sayin'  "I told you so!"  I saw this kind of thing coming a mile away.   I worked on Richard Johnston's campaign for ONDP leader in 82 Tongue out

 

edmundoconnor

Looks Andrew Lang has realized his comments don't exactly help the Liberal cause, and is trying to deny he said what he said.

Meanwhile, Andrew Lang may no longer be the candidate, but his doucheyness lives on in Grant Gordon.

Howard

Is that what the Liberals meant by "we're changing," as in, we're changing the written record?

Or is it, "we're changing," sorry you had to see us in this state of undress.

Arthur Cramer Arthur Cramer's picture

So, can anyone who actually know this riding and its politics provide an informed opinion on what well happen tonight?

janfromthebruce

The NDP will win. Check out the Ontario threads on this by-election Arthur. Posters, although they do not want to assume anything and so getting out our vote is of prime importance today, are doing predictions on the election results.

lil.Tommy

Howard wrote:

Is that what the Liberals meant by "we're changing," as in, we're changing the written record?

Or is it, "we're changing," sorry you had to see us in this state of undress.

I hate predicting, but i'd say this is an NDP win. The riding is very progressive and left wing, esp. in the south in Riverdale and Leslieville (areas thats have in many cases successfully fought off big box stores and huge condo developments, there are many indie business's and artist who live/work there. a mix of young families, LGBTers, old time working class who wont/haven't sold their homes yet, large chinese, greek and south east asian populations as well. The North is largely working class too, much more greek i'd say but i'm more familiar with the south end).

I did a 501 Queen street car ride from end-to-end last week, here is my not so scientific sign war assesment:

- Between Broadview and Jones; i saw on average 5-6 NDP signs down each side street, 2 liberal signs and 2 geen signs, 0 tory signs. From Living in South Riverdale; i find this to be a strong area for the NDP, north of Gerrard is where you find the Liberal vote increase along with income.

- From Jones to Coxwell (i believe that the dividing line) this is where i started to see more Liberal signs, 1 liberal for every 4 NDP signs on average (some streets had more than 2 or three liberals signs but not much more than than, some streets had only NDP signs). My only conjecture here is that more and more "liberals" are buying homes in leslieville as they are being out-priced in Riverdale. some traditional liberal vote might be coming out of the closet too out this way (heading towards the beaches)

My guess is NDP 45-55% LIB 18-25%

 

socialdemocrati...

It's interesting to see the comments section in the globe and mail. A lot of furious Liberals (or Conservative anti-NDPers). I fully expect Mr. Scott to earn 60+% of the vote, reminding me that the comments section of the globe and mail is not representative of anyone or anything.

Michelle

edmundoconnor wrote:

Meanwhile, Andrew Lang may no longer be the candidate, but his doucheyness lives on in Grant Gordon.

Oh, come on, that's funny!  Made me laugh.

GregbythePond

Based on what I saw "in the field", while pulling the vote today, I would have to say that it will be and NDP win. But I don't believe the margin will be as large as some are expecting. A lot of the voters we were trying to pull had Liberal vote pulllers coming to the door as well. Some were feeling quite overwhelmed by the near constant blitzing that they have been under with constant phone and door knocking. Unfortunately, there may be some pushback and/or apathy caused by overkill on the campaign.

Sean in Ottawa

Scott 349........59.9%

Gordon 179.....30%

Conservative 26......4.5%

Polls reportin 5/196

Ottawa Centre-Left

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

Edit: Nevermind, you already fixed it!

Sean in Ottawa

Sorry I fixed the result right away...

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