Polling thread the pre-election edition

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Unionist

janfromthebruce wrote:

So supporting getting a billion dollars for workers and their families through positive changes in EI appears to make folks feel better.

Isn't that nice. It made them feel better about the Cons too (who came up with the plan - it certainly wasn't the NDP's idea, I hope). And it made them feel worse about the Bloc (who also announced they would support this move). Polls are such a wonderful substitute for analysis.

 

 

Bookish Agrarian

Actually the idea of providing extra support for older workers has been around since at least the late 80s, early 90s free trade recession.  It became obvious that older workers had a much harder time finding work, for a variety of reasons, and needed extra support at a time when it was being cut back.

Ironically I remember Buzz Hargrove speaking to this issue at a CUPE convention while a guest speaker and talking about how it was an important issue for us labour people to support.

Times change I guess.

SCB4

Mr.Canada_ts wrote:

Doug.  The Tories are polling a full 12 points ahead of the Liberals in Ontario.  Harper and the Tories are at 46% in Ontario currently.  If IGnatieff doesn't find a real issue and soon to fix his image I don't think he'll be able to recover.

Don't you mean 41%? 46% support for the Tories in Ontario is a 1995 Mike Harris landslide nightmare scenario.

But yes, the 12 point gap is bad news for the Libs. In 2006 and 2008 they had the benefit of a relatively popular Liberal provincial gov't. That doesn't appear to be the case anymore.

Stockholm

Here are the details about the EKOS poll:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/pdf/EKOS-Data-Tables_Sep-5.-17_.pdf

It confirms that a big shift has occurred in Ontario and the Tories lead by 5 points. The NDP is close what it got in the last election in every region and in BC and Atlantic slightly higher. If these were the numbers in a general election (which they won't be), we would lose some seats in Ontario and gain some in BC and Atlantic.

I'm not at all surprised to see the NDP gan some ground compared to last week. Its largely a function of being in the news and over the last few days the NDP has been a centre of attention in a way that it hasn't since the convention.

Of course needless to say, the MSM will ignore the Ekos and Angus Reid polls showing the NDP with a perfectly respectable 17% and instead will continue to talk as if that total outlier from Ipsos was the only poll that mattered - because it fits their current narrative.

janfromthebruce

And it is a function of being in the news and also being followed closely by those in the labour movement. But you are right stock, it doesn't fit their narrative.

Frmrsldr

Unionist wrote:

janfromthebruce wrote:

So supporting getting a billion dollars for workers and their families through positive changes in EI appears to make folks feel better.

Isn't that nice. It made them feel better about the Cons too (who came up with the plan - it certainly wasn't the NDP's idea, I hope). And it made them feel worse about the Bloc (who also announced they would support this move). Polls are such a wonderful substitute for analysis.

Vox Populi Vox humbug!

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NorthReport

Debater wrote:

It will be interesting to see the next set of polls in Quebec after Harper's latest video about the separatists came out.  Will the Conservatives begin dropping again?

Chantal Hebert said on CBC a couple nights ago that she watched the video during lunchtime on french television earlier in the week with a group of francophones and said they were quite upset to say the least.  She predicted Harper may lose more seats in Quebec as a result.

It sure is interesting as we see the Liberals continue to drop in the polls. What a useless leader Ignatieff has turned out to be, as the Liberals appear to be heading back down to the 26 whatever % that the Dion Liberals received in the last election.

NDP and Conservatives rise as Liberals drop again in the polls. 

 

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/09/16/ekos-poll.html

 

 

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