In 2006, Harper was sued for wrongful dismissal by his former chef, who claimed the prime minister never paid him for additional duties that included babysitting, washing the family car and burying one of Harper’s pet cats.
Henrik Lundsgaard, who was employed at Stornoway — residence of the official Opposition leader — for over four years, was seeking $250,000 in lost wages and emotional damage. He alleged Harper and his wife, Laureen Harper, led him to believe he would become the head chef at 24 Sussex Drive if the Conservatives came to power. Instead, he was served with a letter of dismissal on Jan. 23, 2006 the day of Harper’s election victory.
Where did you get the information that the staff at 24 Sussex is being transferred to Rideau Cottage and that there is no staff there?
After a long meeting with the prime minister's wife, Sophie, the head of house staff walked into a relatively vacant 24 Sussex Dr. and delivered good news to staff with a smile, according to Wasylko.
For about the week the staff had been in limbo, wary of the election fallout, he said.
“Everybody gets to keep your jobs,” head of household told the staff.
In 2006, Harper was sued for wrongful dismissal by his former chef, who claimed the prime minister never paid him for additional duties that included babysitting, washing the family car and burying one of Harper’s pet cats.
Henrik Lundsgaard, who was employed at Stornoway — residence of the official Opposition leader — for over four years, was seeking $250,000 in lost wages and emotional damage. He alleged Harper and his wife, Laureen Harper, led him to believe he would become the head chef at 24 Sussex Drive if the Conservatives came to power. Instead, he was served with a letter of dismissal on Jan. 23, 2006 the day of Harper’s election victory.
So.... what happened? Successful lawsuit? O of C Settlement? Gulag?
The Trudeaus fired a chef. Other than the fact they should have said it to his face and own up to it, they can do whatever they want. The new Camelot is looking a little muddy!
And this littel move was classless. This is change, eh? What, Sophie is too good to share the same air? What a snob!
The Trudeaus fired a chef. Other than the fact they should have said it to his face and own up to it, they can do whatever they want. The new Camelot is looking a little muddy!
And this littel move was classless. This is change, eh? What, Sophie is too good to share the same air? What a snob!
A brain dead comment. Enjoy the political wilderness.
The Trudeaus fired a chef. Other than the fact they should have said it to his face and own up to it, they can do whatever they want. The new Camelot is looking a little muddy!
And this littel move was classless. This is change, eh? What, Sophie is too good to share the same air? What a snob!
A brain dead comment. Enjoy the political wilderness.
Why'd you post a reply if it was brain dead? Worried? You clown!
Actually, it's not her job to directly manage household staff. It's the responsibility of the head of house staff. It would be inappropriate for SG to issue a dismissal.
It's going to be a long 4 years. Every action/rumour/interpretation is going to be brutal. I'm hopeful and will give the government the benefit of the doubt, the same benefit I would have given Mr Mulcair.
Every other household worker would adapt we assume but you might think a chef, if you are having one, might best be hired to fit your choices and styles. Maybe they have a chef already who is a perfect fit (some speculated about this here). Sure. Maybe they have a chef who specializes in a particular favorite type of food -- or maybe they want one. It has been reported that Trudeau's family like asian food as their favorite.
It is not a pleasure to let someone go. I can't see why anyone would want to do it personally to someone they have no history with. Gregoire did not let her own chef go -- she had a household manager let Stephen Harper's chef go. There is no requirement to keep the Harper's chef and good reasons to want to have a perfect fit. There is no reason for her to do it personally since she does not know the chef personally and her position does not make her the one who should deliver the message personally.
Some of the comments about Gregoire here some really unfair to me. If you asked me what member of staff would be least likely to keep a household job in transition, I would say the chef. This is the position that has to be a fit for a family. So really nothing in this story seems odd to me excpet that it became news at all or that the chef commented th way he did.
In 2006, Harper was sued for wrongful dismissal by his former chef, who claimed the prime minister never paid him for additional duties that included babysitting, washing the family car and burying one of Harper’s pet cats.
I thought Rabble was suppose to be pro-worker. A chef getting fired because he worked for Harper and everyone is cheering about it.
I'm cheering. He wasn't unionized. I don't get his dues, he can fend for himself. Plus, he doesn't sound like a worker to me - probably just a manager of real cooks. My sympathy level is nil. Less, actually.
Were you thinking we should start up a collection for him? Or a labour board complaint to get him rehired?
I think humour is the best way to avoid saying what I really think about this diversionary bullshit waste of time so-called "story".
And your comment, I take it, is satirical in intent? Yup, I thought so. I apologize if my remarks intentionally offended you.
Well um, we already have a burried family cat tucked away in this thread, I thought ketchup would be more politically correct. The Trudeau's can eat whatever they want.
I thought Rabble was suppose to be pro-worker. A chef getting fired because he worked for Harper and everyone is cheering about it.
I'm cheering. He wasn't unionized. I don't get his dues, he can fend for himself. Plus, he doesn't sound like a worker to me - probably just a manager of real cooks. My sympathy level is nil. Less, actually.
Were you thinking we should start up a collection for him? Or a labour board complaint to get him rehired?
I think humour is the best way to avoid saying what I really think about this diversionary bullshit waste of time so-called "story".
And your comment, I take it, is satirical in intent? Yup, I thought so. I apologize if my remarks intentionally offended you.
So we only care about the unionized worker? That is pretty progressive of you.
I don't think we need to take up a collection or complain to the Labour Board however we shouldn't be happy that a worker got fired because he worked for a politician.
I don't think you are a worker, you likely make more money than 50% of the people on this forum. I would likely say you are part of the 10% of the richest in Canada judging by your comments.
I don't think we need to take up a collection or complain to the Labour Board however we shouldn't be happy that a worker got fired because he worked for a politician.
I haven't seen anyone say "Aw Yisss, this makes my day!".
But you need to read between the lines, Todrick. This thread wasn't started in support of someone who lost their job -- this thread was started to blame Sophie Gregoire for it.
I don't think we need to take up a collection or complain to the Labour Board however we shouldn't be happy that a worker got fired because he worked for a politician.
I haven't seen anyone say "Aw Yisss, this makes my day!".
But you need to read between the lines, Todrick. This thread wasn't started in support of someone who lost their job -- this thread was started to blame Sophie Gregoire for it.
I don't think it matters why the thread was started, a worker has been fired for no real reason yet no one seems to care.
So we only care about the unionized worker? That is pretty progressive of you.
Not even. I only care about union bosses.
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I don't think we need to take up a collection or complain to the Labour Board however we shouldn't be happy that a worker got fired because he worked for a politician.
I thought he should be fired because he's a whiner.
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I don't think you are a worker, you likely make more money than 50% of the people on this forum. I would likely say you are part of the 10% of the richest in Canada judging by your comments.
Correct. I'm rolling in dough. Like the idiot chef.
I would think that being the chef for the Prime Minister of Canada is a highly coveted and prestigious job to have. He worked there for ten years and has a very impressive resume. I personally am not worried about him. And if his duties are to babysit children and burry dead cats, maybe there is a more personal nature to being a chef at the Prime Minister's residence, and maybe Trudeau's have a legitimate right to choose who is going to make their meals for them, and listen to their political discussions and hear conversations with Liberal cabinet ministers. If I were in their shoes, I would want control over who I have preparing my meals, and I would like the reassurance that personal information does not get back to Steven Haroer or the Conservative party. But that is just me. This chef will have no problem finding work elsewhere.
Now, I'm not only a cat lover; when I was a wee tyke, I was convinced that I actually was a cat (I was in love with my cousins' black tomkitten). But does nobody think that it is a bit strange to bury someone (cat, human or any other life form) on the grounds of the official residence of the PM?
One thing this thread does show is just how toxic the "relationship" is between Lib and New Democrat. Its going to stay this way for a very long tome. It started really the night Junior claimed Jack Layton's (blessed be his memory) mantle as his own, at that nasty speech he gave. He made it worse with his words about Mulcair (even if it can be argued he wasn't saying what he was attributed to have, the damage was still done), and it isn't going to improve soon. You could see this coming. It really was set in motion when the Libs lost in 2011. They were going to make sure they let the NDP had it once they came back, and its only going to get worse. Expect Libs to start asking why there is even a need for the NDP anymore, that'll be the next thing. They are like Sharks. There's blood in the water. And its going to get a lot nastier. Expecially if Mulcair gets a chance to tangle with Trudeau in the House. He may be a lousy campaigner, but when it comes to going after A**h*** Prime Ministers, there is no one better. Junior better be ready. It isn't going to be pretty. And by the way, and just to finish the though, the right name is Junior. He may be my Prime Minister, but he ins't MY leader. Nope, wouldn't want to be in the same fox hole with him. I'd worry every momet whether he'd still be there when the going got rough. He isn't man enought to be.
no one except the Harpers could stand him longer than a year.....
If I'm reading that resume correctly, he had a pre-Harper government gig(Mexico City) that lasted four years, all under the Liberals.
And anyway, if the left is now going to pre-occupy itself with denouncing the ex-prime minister's CHEF(not to mention weight and skin-tone), well, I guess Justin can count on getting a pretty easy ride from the left during this tenure. Which is maybe what progressives want?
And anyway, if the left is now going to pre-occupy itself with denouncing the ex-prime minister's CHEF(not to mention weight and skin-tone), well, I guess Justin can count on getting a pretty easy ride from the left during this tenure. Which is maybe what progressives want?
Well, I'll tell you this for sure:
If the "left" is now going to pre-occupy iteself with denouncing Sophie Grégoire for firing Harper's chef - and some of the other nauseatingly childish issues I've seen raised here in recent days - then Justin (as you call him) will [b]really[/b] get an easy ride during his tenure.
Of course, I understand very well why some individuals focus on bullshit like the chef issue. If they denounced Trudeau for his policies on the economy, pipelines, foreign affairs, Israel... someone might ask: "Excuse me, but those policies are hard to distinguish from Mulcair's... so am I to understand that you're criticizing the NDP as well?" And of course, criticizing the NDP is [i]verboten[/i].
So, better to scream and shout about the poor chef who has lost his "job".
That's why I and some others have tried our best to turn this into a joke thread. But if you want to have serious conversation on this incident - you won't get it from this leftist. The crimes of Trudeau that are on the horizon are far far bigger than firing some Harper-loving chef - or even appointing second-class female ministers of state.
There's big fish heading for the frying pan, and we leftist chefs had better be up to the task.
Well, FWIW, and as you can see from my only other post on this thread, I don't think Justin(or whomever made the call) did anything wrong in letting the chef go. I do think it WOULD be an issue if he had fired the guy improperly, since, unlike Harper's eating habits, the labour practices of a sitting PM are a valid issue.
And I think the reason I call him Justin is because it seems somewhat strange for me(and possibly others old enough to remember the 70s) to refer to him as "Trudeau". Even though it would be obvious who I was referring to. Maybe I'll just stick with JT.
Frankly this thread never should have been started. Its going to stay nasty for a really long time. If anythig, I'd say the gulf between Lib and New Democrat is even greater now and that's Trudeau's fault. You can't don Jack's (blessed be his memory) mantle, tell New Dems its not their's and get out of the way, and then expect everything to be sweetness and light. I still say the NDP should have pushed back really hard right away, but that's just one more lost moment. But frankly, Trudeau is a smart ass, a punk, and he owns this. It's HIS!
Getting back to food issues, someone brought up the idea of a "personal chef" as part of a convalescence plan. Of course a full-time chef is only an option for the very wealthy, but it IS possible to have personalized, nutritious and tasty meals on wheels, as proven by Santropol Roulant in the Plateau district:
Frozen meals for neighbourhood people (who don't qualify for meals on wheels):
The Chef was pretty close to the Harpers. They requested menus that were of the meat & potatoes variety. Maybe the Trudeaus want to dine high off fine cuisine in comparison.
it is a personal-services type contract, I am sure; you cannot account for taste or expect a chef to match every palate;
someone who is an aide de camp and has to rise with the Chief and/or keep to crazy travel hours etc. is often hired by a senior executive on a personal compatability basis , and this applies surely to your household chef.
Pierre certainly had his tastes, which were radically different (and more worldy) from those of Lester Pearson and as I recall the 24 Sus kitchen staff changed accordingly.
In 2006, Harper was sued for wrongful dismissal by his former chef, who claimed the prime minister never paid him for additional duties that included babysitting, washing the family car and burying one of Harper’s pet cats.
Henrik Lundsgaard, who was employed at Stornoway — residence of the official Opposition leader — for over four years, was seeking $250,000 in lost wages and emotional damage. He alleged Harper and his wife, Laureen Harper, led him to believe he would become the head chef at 24 Sussex Drive if the Conservatives came to power. Instead, he was served with a letter of dismissal on Jan. 23, 2006 the day of Harper’s election victory.
After a long meeting with the prime minister's wife, Sophie, the head of house staff walked into a relatively vacant 24 Sussex Dr. and delivered good news to staff with a smile, according to Wasylko.
For about the week the staff had been in limbo, wary of the election fallout, he said.
“Everybody gets to keep your jobs,” head of household told the staff.
http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/11/06/pm-harpers-chef-served-pink-slip-fro...
The Chef (Tim Wasylko) reiterated his version of the events.
“Mrs. Trudeau has a chef,” Wasylko recalled being told by the household manager.
Wasylko said other staff were present in the room: “There’s lots of witnesses.”
“That was clear as day. He came walking in. I’ll remember that forever,” Wasylko said.
http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/11/06/sophie-trudeau-didnt-fire-24-susse-c...
OK then she had the head of household tell him his services were no longer required. Is that better?
So.... what happened? Successful lawsuit? O of C Settlement? Gulag?
The Trudeaus fired a chef. Other than the fact they should have said it to his face and own up to it, they can do whatever they want. The new Camelot is looking a little muddy!
And this littel move was classless. This is change, eh? What, Sophie is too good to share the same air? What a snob!
A brain dead comment. Enjoy the political wilderness.
Why'd you post a reply if it was brain dead? Worried? You clown!
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Actually, it's not her job to directly manage household staff. It's the responsibility of the head of house staff. It would be inappropriate for SG to issue a dismissal.
It's going to be a long 4 years. Every action/rumour/interpretation is going to be brutal. I'm hopeful and will give the government the benefit of the doubt, the same benefit I would have given Mr Mulcair.
Top Chef Babble.
What a story.
Every other household worker would adapt we assume but you might think a chef, if you are having one, might best be hired to fit your choices and styles. Maybe they have a chef already who is a perfect fit (some speculated about this here). Sure. Maybe they have a chef who specializes in a particular favorite type of food -- or maybe they want one. It has been reported that Trudeau's family like asian food as their favorite.
It is not a pleasure to let someone go. I can't see why anyone would want to do it personally to someone they have no history with. Gregoire did not let her own chef go -- she had a household manager let Stephen Harper's chef go. There is no requirement to keep the Harper's chef and good reasons to want to have a perfect fit. There is no reason for her to do it personally since she does not know the chef personally and her position does not make her the one who should deliver the message personally.
Some of the comments about Gregoire here some really unfair to me. If you asked me what member of staff would be least likely to keep a household job in transition, I would say the chef. This is the position that has to be a fit for a family. So really nothing in this story seems odd to me excpet that it became news at all or that the chef commented th way he did.
Mwahaha.
Yeah, it sounds like the chef found his firing difficult to swallow.
JJ, I'll bet you said that just for the halibut.
It was obviously a miscommunication. They thought he asked for a braise, so they fired him.
U, I think you got to the meat of the issue right there.
Nobody thinks these jokes are a little overdone?
I'd say the criticisms are half-baked.
Exactly. He baked them bread using synthetic ingredients. Sophie wanted Trudeau.
Tasteless humour, if you ask me, and all over a crabby chef. Go figure!
I hope the cat was dead first.
I wonder if the chef that Harper fired and sued him for $250,000.00 damages is now a renown sou chef?
I thought Rabble was suppose to be pro-worker. A chef getting fired because he worked for Harper and everyone is cheering about it.
Well, we do know that the chef got chopped. Poor kitty.
Maybe the Trudeau's don't have conservative food tastes and prefer to add their salad dressing and ketchup more liberally.
This is more like a roast.
Ahhh I see. We are acting like we have principals.
I'm cheering. He wasn't unionized. I don't get his dues, he can fend for himself. Plus, he doesn't sound like a worker to me - probably just a manager of real cooks. My sympathy level is nil. Less, actually.
Were you thinking we should start up a collection for him? Or a labour board complaint to get him rehired?
I think humour is the best way to avoid saying what I really think about this diversionary bullshit waste of time so-called "story".
And your comment, I take it, is satirical in intent? Yup, I thought so. I apologize if my remarks intentionally offended you.
There's the problem right there. The Harpers use ketchup, the Trudeaus use catsup.
Well um, we already have a burried family cat tucked away in this thread, I thought ketchup would be more politically correct. The Trudeau's can eat whatever they want.
So we only care about the unionized worker? That is pretty progressive of you.
I don't think we need to take up a collection or complain to the Labour Board however we shouldn't be happy that a worker got fired because he worked for a politician.
I don't think you are a worker, you likely make more money than 50% of the people on this forum. I would likely say you are part of the 10% of the richest in Canada judging by your comments.
I haven't seen anyone say "Aw Yisss, this makes my day!".
But you need to read between the lines, Todrick. This thread wasn't started in support of someone who lost their job -- this thread was started to blame Sophie Gregoire for it.
I don't think it matters why the thread was started, a worker has been fired for no real reason yet no one seems to care.
hmmm no real reason? he was let go as his services were duplicate as Trudeau's already had a chef. either way a chef had to go.
Not even. I only care about union bosses.
I thought he should be fired because he's a whiner.
Correct. I'm rolling in dough. Like the idiot chef.
I would think that being the chef for the Prime Minister of Canada is a highly coveted and prestigious job to have. He worked there for ten years and has a very impressive resume. I personally am not worried about him. And if his duties are to babysit children and burry dead cats, maybe there is a more personal nature to being a chef at the Prime Minister's residence, and maybe Trudeau's have a legitimate right to choose who is going to make their meals for them, and listen to their political discussions and hear conversations with Liberal cabinet ministers. If I were in their shoes, I would want control over who I have preparing my meals, and I would like the reassurance that personal information does not get back to Steven Haroer or the Conservative party. But that is just me. This chef will have no problem finding work elsewhere.
Now, I'm not only a cat lover; when I was a wee tyke, I was convinced that I actually was a cat (I was in love with my cousins' black tomkitten). But does nobody think that it is a bit strange to bury someone (cat, human or any other life form) on the grounds of the official residence of the PM?
Harper buried his humanity on the grounds. I wonder if he took it back with him. Doubt it.
Here is Tim Wasylko's work history, in case anyone is interested.
no one except the Harpers could stand him longer than a year.....
One thing this thread does show is just how toxic the "relationship" is between Lib and New Democrat. Its going to stay this way for a very long tome. It started really the night Junior claimed Jack Layton's (blessed be his memory) mantle as his own, at that nasty speech he gave. He made it worse with his words about Mulcair (even if it can be argued he wasn't saying what he was attributed to have, the damage was still done), and it isn't going to improve soon. You could see this coming. It really was set in motion when the Libs lost in 2011. They were going to make sure they let the NDP had it once they came back, and its only going to get worse. Expect Libs to start asking why there is even a need for the NDP anymore, that'll be the next thing. They are like Sharks. There's blood in the water. And its going to get a lot nastier. Expecially if Mulcair gets a chance to tangle with Trudeau in the House. He may be a lousy campaigner, but when it comes to going after A**h*** Prime Ministers, there is no one better. Junior better be ready. It isn't going to be pretty. And by the way, and just to finish the though, the right name is Junior. He may be my Prime Minister, but he ins't MY leader. Nope, wouldn't want to be in the same fox hole with him. I'd worry every momet whether he'd still be there when the going got rough. He isn't man enought to be.
If I'm reading that resume correctly, he had a pre-Harper government gig(Mexico City) that lasted four years, all under the Liberals.
And anyway, if the left is now going to pre-occupy itself with denouncing the ex-prime minister's CHEF(not to mention weight and skin-tone), well, I guess Justin can count on getting a pretty easy ride from the left during this tenure. Which is maybe what progressives want?
Well, I'll tell you this for sure:
If the "left" is now going to pre-occupy iteself with denouncing Sophie Grégoire for firing Harper's chef - and some of the other nauseatingly childish issues I've seen raised here in recent days - then Justin (as you call him) will [b]really[/b] get an easy ride during his tenure.
Of course, I understand very well why some individuals focus on bullshit like the chef issue. If they denounced Trudeau for his policies on the economy, pipelines, foreign affairs, Israel... someone might ask: "Excuse me, but those policies are hard to distinguish from Mulcair's... so am I to understand that you're criticizing the NDP as well?" And of course, criticizing the NDP is [i]verboten[/i].
So, better to scream and shout about the poor chef who has lost his "job".
That's why I and some others have tried our best to turn this into a joke thread. But if you want to have serious conversation on this incident - you won't get it from this leftist. The crimes of Trudeau that are on the horizon are far far bigger than firing some Harper-loving chef - or even appointing second-class female ministers of state.
There's big fish heading for the frying pan, and we leftist chefs had better be up to the task.
Well, FWIW, and as you can see from my only other post on this thread, I don't think Justin(or whomever made the call) did anything wrong in letting the chef go. I do think it WOULD be an issue if he had fired the guy improperly, since, unlike Harper's eating habits, the labour practices of a sitting PM are a valid issue.
And I think the reason I call him Justin is because it seems somewhat strange for me(and possibly others old enough to remember the 70s) to refer to him as "Trudeau". Even though it would be obvious who I was referring to. Maybe I'll just stick with JT.
Once again, Harpers fault!
Some never even tried and all it went swimmingly in that regard I have to say.
Frankly this thread never should have been started. Its going to stay nasty for a really long time. If anythig, I'd say the gulf between Lib and New Democrat is even greater now and that's Trudeau's fault. You can't don Jack's (blessed be his memory) mantle, tell New Dems its not their's and get out of the way, and then expect everything to be sweetness and light. I still say the NDP should have pushed back really hard right away, but that's just one more lost moment. But frankly, Trudeau is a smart ass, a punk, and he owns this. It's HIS!
Getting back to food issues, someone brought up the idea of a "personal chef" as part of a convalescence plan. Of course a full-time chef is only an option for the very wealthy, but it IS possible to have personalized, nutritious and tasty meals on wheels, as proven by Santropol Roulant in the Plateau district:
Frozen meals for neighbourhood people (who don't qualify for meals on wheels):
http://santropolroulant.org/en/activities-and-services/frozen-meals/
The meals on wheels (bicycles as much as possible)
http://santropolroulant.org/en/become-a-client/ Further subsidies are available for people who can't afford the fee.
http://santropolroulant.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/calendarSR_web_20... sample menus - but these can also be adapted to special needs.
it is a personal-services type contract, I am sure; you cannot account for taste or expect a chef to match every palate;
someone who is an aide de camp and has to rise with the Chief and/or keep to crazy travel hours etc. is often hired by a senior executive on a personal compatability basis , and this applies surely to your household chef.
Pierre certainly had his tastes, which were radically different (and more worldy) from those of Lester Pearson and as I recall the 24 Sus kitchen staff changed accordingly.
save the elite chefs! good lord.
actually, i think this non-story is still fermenting simply due to the dead cat bounce effect.
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