Torture: A Canadian Value?

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Sat, 2009-09-12 23:35

#1

NDPP

Torture: A Canadian Value?

Torture: A Canadian Value?

http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/22575

"Canada is one country where political links to torture in ecent years are unmistakeable. Ottawa's complicity in torture merits a national discussion.."

Sun, 2009-09-13 08:16

#2

GentleHush

I'm reminded of this (the video more than the thread). And this.

Can we get somebody in there who won't be complicit in this? Can we not jump on this scary slippery slope?

Sun, 2009-09-13 11:26

#3

Fidel

[url=http://archive.ndp.ca/page/6449]NDP MP Black introduces bill to prevent torture[/url] May 2008

NDP: the hardest working party in effective opposition

Mon, 2009-09-14 22:10

#4

mahmoud

of course torture not canadian value, but at least now, some anti-west govts where torture is known and daily life, like iran and saudi arabia...if you define death penalty and chopping fingers off as torture

maybe they will respect canada more a little?

Mon, 2009-09-14 22:24

#5

martin dufresne

The Guantanamo concentration/torture camp and their whole secret jails program has certainly garnered the U.S. a lot of respect...

Mon, 2009-09-14 22:32

#6

mahmoud

martin dufresne wrote:

The Guantanamo concentration/torture camp and their whole secret jails program has certainly garnered the U.S. a lot of respect...

i am not blind and look balanced and unbiased

US did bad, but 90% of nations did even worse

we just focus on US. Iraq and Afganistan kill many innovcents in torture places like guantenamo before 2000

Mon, 2009-09-14 22:57

#7

Fidel

[url=http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MCC409A.html]The Hidden History of CIA Torture:[/url] America's Road to Abu Ghraib

by Alfred W. McCoy

Quote:
American Prestige

This is not, of course, the first American debate over torture in recent memory. From 1970 to 1988, the Congress tried unsuccessfully, in four major investigations, to expose elements of this CIA torture paradigm. But on each occasion the public showed little concern, and the practice, never fully acknowledged, persisted inside the intelligence community.

Now, in these photographs from Abu Ghraib, ordinary Americans have seen the reality and the results of interrogation techniques the CIA has propagated and practiced for nearly half a century. The American public can join the international community in repudiating a practice that, more than any other, represents a denial of democracy; or in its desperate search for security, the United States can continue its clandestine torture of terror suspects in the hope of gaining good intelligence without negative publicity...

[url=http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/Gehlen_Org.html]The CIA's Worst Kept Secret[/url] [Gehlen Org]

Quote:

Members of the Gehlen Org were instrumental in helping thousands of fascist fugitives escape via "ratlines" to safe havens abroad - often with a wink and a nod from U.S. intelligence officers.
Third Reich expatriates and fascist collaborators subsequently emerged as "security advisers" in several Middle Eastern and Latin American countries, where ultra-right-wing death squads persist as their enduring legacy.
Klaus Barbie, for example, assisted a succession of military regimes in Bolivia, where he taught soldiers torture techniques and helped protect the flourishing cocaine trade in the late 1970s and early 1980

[url=http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/SOA/SOA_TortureManuals.html]Textbook Repression: US Training Manuals Declassified[/url]

Wed, 2009-09-16 08:34

#8

Frmrsldr

martin dufresne wrote:

The Guantanamo concentration/torture camp and their whole secret jails program has certainly garnered the U.S. a lot of respect...

Look at the Omar Khadr case. At one point France's government interceded on the Canadian government's behalf urging American clemency for Omar. How embarrassing is that? What the hell was the Canadian government's problem?