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Slumberjack wrote:

It's threads like this that make me want to go and tell about Anarchy from the mountains.

As an anarchist of state, or a full anarchist?

 

Slumberjack

Nothing less than full on of course.

jjuares

A evaluation of Kirsty Duncan, the new science minister.

“This is the most curious appointment since Caligula named his horse as consul,” scoffed McGill University’s Dr. Michael Rasminsky, calling the Zamboni ideas “profoundly non-scientific.”

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/...

quizzical

from the link of jj's.

more evidence the ministers of state are remaining ministers of state and we're being bs'd by Justin and Liberal shills.

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It’s unclear exactly what responsibilities Duncan will have as a “minister of state” under Navdeep Singh Bains, the minister of innovation, science and economic development. She is still being briefed and will not comment for now, said a spokeswoman this week.

jjuares

quizzical wrote:

from the link of jj's.

more evidence the ministers of state are remaining ministers of state and we're being bs'd by Justin and Liberal shills.

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It’s unclear exactly what responsibilities Duncan will have as a “minister of state” under Navdeep Singh Bains, the minister of innovation, science and economic development. She is still being briefed and will not comment for now, said a spokeswoman this week.


Yeah, this is a new ministry so what Treasury Board statutes would have applied here that would have prevented her from being a full minister?

quizzical

just keep finding proof as the interchangability between Conservative and Liberal politicians and pundits and head people.

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Tomorrow night will be Bruce Anderson's final appearance on "At Issue".

Now that his daughter, Kate Purchase, has become PM Trudeau's Director of Communications, Anderson feels it would be a conflict of interest for him to stay on CBC's political panel.......

...My wife was Joe Clark’s Legislative Assistant when he was Prime Minister, and served as a senior policy advisor to Ontario Premier Bill Davis, as well as Federal Ministers Mike Wilson and Lowell Murray.

My brother and business partner Rick has been a prominent Reformer and Conservative over many years, having started life in politics as a Liberal, in the 1960’s. He was an advisor to Stephen Harper in the campaign just ended.

 

quizzical

jjuares wrote:
quizzical wrote:
from the link of jj's.

more evidence the ministers of state are remaining ministers of state and we're being bs'd by Justin and Liberal shills.

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It’s unclear exactly what responsibilities Duncan will have as a “minister of state” under Navdeep Singh Bains, the minister of innovation, science and economic development. She is still being briefed and will not comment for now, said a spokeswoman this week.

Yeah, this is a new ministry so what Treasury Board statutes would have applied here that would have prevented her from being a full minister?

don't know. not much transparency.

swallow swallow's picture

Is it a new ministry? Ed Holder was minister of state for science under the last Harper cabinet. 

quizzical

Minister of State for the Environment and Climate Change

jjuares

quizzical wrote:

Minister of State for the Environment and Climate Change


So the article is correct it is a new ministry?

quizzical

yup it is.

quizzical

 MND is an arrogant fk wad and i'm so totalling lol @ Liberals voters who just wanted to get rid of Harper.

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The party’s “Real Change” platform document explicitly states a Liberal government would “restore access to the support that veterans are due, we will reopen the nine Veterans Affairs service offices closed by Stephen Harper,” a promise Prime Minister Justin Trudeau reiterated during a campaign stop in Halifax in September.

But on Wednesday, new Veterans Affairs Minister Kent Hehr wouldn’t say where or how many offices it would open.

“We made a commitment to go back and look at this situation and reopen many of the offices and look to the areas that need them the most. We’ve had a great many veterans who are no longer settling in traditional areas and we’re going to look to where they are settling and get our veterans affairs offices open and operating in those centres,” Hehr told The Chronicle Herald.....Hehr wouldn’t commit to a timeline for the opening of the offices, but said it’s something his department would be looking at over the next number of years.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1321999-liberals-no-longer-promi...

 

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

Charting corporate connections in the new Liberal cabinet

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During the election campaign, the Liberals faced widespread scrutiny over the tactless actions of then-Campaign Co-Chair Dan Gagnier. He resigned after the Canadian Press obtained a copy of an email he sent to five TransCanada Corp officials, which advised them on how they could best lobby a Liberal government on the approval of the Energy East pipeline. The party initially defended Gagnier, and the incident highlighted the Liberals’ connections to Canada’s pipeline power players.

A glimpse into Trudeau’s cabinet appointments paints a similar picture, and it doesn’t look pretty. With so many corporate heavy hitters, there is cause for concern regarding which economic philosophies will form the backbone of the Trudeau government.

So just who in the cabinet has big friends in rich places? And can we expect Liberal austerity to rear its ugly head?

mark_alfred

Murray Dobbin says some nice things about Trudeau's picks for cabinet in his recent article, Trudeau's boldness test: The TPP

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He has put numerous people in ministries who actually have a passion for their portfolios: a doctor in charge in health care, a potato farmer in charge of agriculture, a First Nation's former treaty commissioner in Justice, a former CIDA staff person in charge of International Development. Prime ministers who want to exercise executive control don't do this. Trudeau, it seems, genuinely wants to run a government by cabinet.

Dobbin goes on to say,

Murray Dobbin wrote:

But the real measure of how bold Trudeau will be is how he deals with the economy.

[..]

The biggest test Trudeau will face on this front is right on the top of the issues pile: the Trans Pacific Partnership trade agreement.

It seems possible Trudeau is more progressive than I had imagined he'd be.  However, as Dobbin states, the real test will be the TPP.  Dobbin concludes his article with the following:

Murray Dobbin wrote:

And even a cursory reading of the history of Liberal governments and their relationship to big business has to make us highly sceptical about the possibility that Trudeau will actually reject the TPP.  

But given that, his (and Freeland's) repeated promises to consult widely and have a full debate in the House of Commons is curious. So, too, was Trudeau's visit to the offices of the Canadian Labour Congress this week (the first PM to do so since 1958) -- where he repeated his promise of listening to Labour's TPP concerns.

If Trudeau intends to sign off on the TPP he is pursuing an odd strategy: encouraging civil society groups to criticize the TPP and raising expectations about his response. In any case he has thrown down the gauntlet. The obvious group to pick it up? The Leap Manifesto.

So, seems there may be a chance that Trudeau will do the right thing and reject the TPP (or demand it be renegotiated).  So, time to start writing to him with and his cabinet with our opposition to the TPP.

Cody87

mark_alfred wrote:

Murray Dobbin says some nice things about Trudeau's picks for cabinet in his recent article, Trudeau's boldness test: The TPP

Murray Dobbin wrote:
He has put numerous people in ministries who actually have a passion for their portfolios: a doctor in charge in health care, a potato farmer in charge of agriculture, a First Nation's former treaty commissioner in Justice, a former CIDA staff person in charge of International Development. Prime ministers who want to exercise executive control don't do this. Trudeau, it seems, genuinely wants to run a government by cabinet.

Dobbin goes on to say,

Murray Dobbin wrote:

But the real measure of how bold Trudeau will be is how he deals with the economy.

[..]

The biggest test Trudeau will face on this front is right on the top of the issues pile: the Trans Pacific Partnership trade agreement.

It seems possible Trudeau is more progressive than I had imagined he'd be.  However, as Dobbin states, the real test will be the TPP.  Dobbin concludes his article with the following:

Murray Dobbin wrote:

And even a cursory reading of the history of Liberal governments and their relationship to big business has to make us highly sceptical about the possibility that Trudeau will actually reject the TPP.  

But given that, his (and Freeland's) repeated promises to consult widely and have a full debate in the House of Commons is curious. So, too, was Trudeau's visit to the offices of the Canadian Labour Congress this week (the first PM to do so since 1958) -- where he repeated his promise of listening to Labour's TPP concerns.

If Trudeau intends to sign off on the TPP he is pursuing an odd strategy: encouraging civil society groups to criticize the TPP and raising expectations about his response. In any case he has thrown down the gauntlet. The obvious group to pick it up? The Leap Manifesto.

So, seems there may be a chance that Trudeau will do the right thing and reject the TPP (or demand it be renegotiated).  So, time to start writing to him with and his cabinet with our opposition to the TPP.

I skimmed that article but skipped the last paragraph. Glad you brought it up because it brings up an interesting point.

I believe Trudeau intends to sign the TPP, unfortunately, which has confused me because the TPP is just as bad a deal for government as it is for citizens, and to hear him say it Trudeau likes both citizens and government.

But, I like to be able to argue both sides of an issue, and I could argue that Trudeau's behaviour makes sense if he is deliberately trying to provoke opposition to the TPP, which he can then use as justification to kill the deal (that would be acceptable to a larger portion of the population then just killing it because it's a poor deal). This strategy lets him say "I didn't kill it because it was a free trade agreement, I killed it because Canadian's spoke loud and clear that it runs contrary to our values as a society."

Further, all of Trudeau's detractors on the left who are convinced of a hidden right-wing agenda have basically been reduced to one credible talking point - the TPP. Imagine the brownie points Trudeau could win by signalling that he supports TPP (which he has - Abe conversation), scaring the everliving s* out of the high-information portion of the population who thinks he's going to sign it (some one the right oppose the deal too, which is why I don't say progressive portion), letting parliament debate it, and then killing it at the last minute after "hearing the concerns of everyday, hardworking middle-class Canadians". He would become a hero.

mark_alfred

Cody87 wrote:

But, I like to be able to argue both sides of an issue, and I could argue that Trudeau's behaviour makes sense if he is deliberately trying to provoke opposition to the TPP, which he can then use as justification to kill the deal (that would be acceptable to a larger portion of the population then just killing it because it's a poor deal). This strategy lets him say "I didn't kill it because it was a free trade agreement, I killed it because Canadian's spoke loud and clear that it runs contrary to our values as a society."

I think that's the point Dobbin was making.  Regardless, I certainly agree with you.  I think rather than assuming it's a done deal, people should actively oppose it.  Trudeau's behaviour so far indicates that there is a window of hope if a loud enough voice of opposition can be mustered.  It's the same situation with publicly agitating for real proportional representation.  Trudeau has not made a definite commitment, but has opened the door to the possibility.  Time to enter the door and advocate for real change (IE, real change being having a government that listens to the population, which requires having a population that will speak up and make itself heard on issues like proportional representation and rejecting the current TPP).

Pondering

mark_alfred wrote:

So, seems there may be a chance that Trudeau will do the right thing and reject the TPP (or demand it be renegotiated).  So, time to start writing to him with and his cabinet with our opposition to the TPP.

My sense is that this will be debated until the US makes a decision. Then it will depend on how strong opposition in Canada is. 

Mr. Magoo

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Yeah, this is a new ministry so what Treasury Board statutes would have applied here that would have prevented her from being a full minister?

Actually, it's an existing ministry (of State) with a slightly tweaked name.

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Goodyear was re-elected in the May 2nd elections in 2011 and returned to Stephen Harper's cabinet as Minister of State for Science & Technology. He was replaced in this capacity by Greg Rickford on July 15, 2013.

Does everyone understand that if you're the new "Minister of Sports and Athletics" and you're basically given the same responsibilities as the previous "Minister of Athletics and Sports" then it's not really a "new" ministry?

montrealer58 montrealer58's picture

Surely Chrystia Freeland will be selling lots of Canadian arms and ammunition to Canadian allies left over from the Harper regime in her new position as Minister of International Trade. She will not be selling much to Russia, as she is on a Russian no-fly list along with other Canadian luminaries.

jjuares

" Morneau, Canada’s new finance minister, sounds like a great guy. ...
In a profile we recently posted online for Globe Unlimited subscribers earlier this month, Mr. Morneau said concern about job prospects for young adults is blown up by the press. “Most of the really smart people find jobs,” he said, “even when there’s high youth unemployment.” The reality is, it’s 13 per cent. That means 87 per cent are employed.”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/personal-finance/household...

A " great guy" indeed.

quizzical

wow an amazing man hey. just what we fkn need after the Conservatives!!!!! jeez and people here are trying to insist nothing negative is said about the poor poor Liberals.

mark_alfred

Photo from the Star.  Where's the gender parity? 

Debater

Is the photo from the Liberal Party or The Toronto Star?

Mr. Magoo

I feel like that might have been Photoshopped.

Debater

The women cabinet ministers of the Trudeau Government have been very prominent.

Particularly the Environment Minister, Catherine McKenna, as well as the Health Minister, Jane Philpott.

Carolyn Bennett, the Aboriginal Affairs Minister, has also been fairly visible.

And Trudeau also introduced Celina Caesar-Chavannes (Whitby) to Barack Obama in Washington, so he has made far more effort than Harper ever did to advance the women in his caucus.

I think the question here is, why did the sexist Toronto Star not include any of them in its photo?

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