The "orthodox position" on the Jewish state is basically handed down in the gemara for masecta Kesubos (concerning the three oaths) - essentially, that a "Jewish state" created in the land of Israel before moshiach is assur (prohibited). This was the view of virtually all orthodox pre-1948 and is still held by most charedim today.
Finally, the answer I was looking for!
Since Bubbles Bulka obviously doesn't share the "orthodox" view on the Jewish state, why would you expect him to expound the "orthodox" view on homosexuality!?
Sorry, I trapped you, but you see, I studied Gemara for many years, and that's how the chachamim taught us to argue. I see it now as indispensable preparation for negotiations, arbitration, and babble. And don't quote Shulchan Aruch at me. I still have all four volumes handy, and I'll tell you what sexual positions are permissible.
Finally, the answer I was looking for!
Since Bubbles Bulka obviously doesn't share the "orthodox" view on the Jewish state, why would you expect him to expound the "orthodox" view on homosexuality!?
Sorry, I trapped you, but you see, I studied Gemara for many years, and that's how the chachamim taught us to argue. I see it now as indispensable preparation for negotiations, arbitration, and babble. And don't quote Shulchan Aruch at me. I still have all four volumes handy, and I'll tell you what sexual positions are permissible.
More pilpul, anyone?
Long thread. :)
Reopening until I find out just what those are.
( although if listing them all would make things difficult for people on dialup, just a link would be great)
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