Local riding on Green leader's radar: Elizabeth May might run in Bruce-Grey-Owen Sound: Part Two

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Local riding on Green leader's radar: Elizabeth May might run in Bruce-Grey-Owen Sound: Part Two

   

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Maysie wrote:

Long thread, which also seems to have gone hinky. Please continue in a new one.


Or has it gone hinky, hunky or hick (hilly billy)?
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Sorry, I had no sleep last night and I am working extended hours. I may have a bad sense of humour.

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too much rye?

Debater

Yes the previous thread seemed to get off track from the issue of where Elizabeth May might or might not run onto the subject of wind energy.

As to the main subject of Elizabeth May, I would say that it will be harder for her to win in rural Ontario compared to a more urban riding.  It also doesn't really make sense to run somewhere where you don't have any connections and when you have gone to the trouble of establishing a base in another riding.

There is also the fact that Elizabeth May said in October that she would only run in a) Central Nova in a general election or b) a by-election.

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The latter I would say, unless she has it in mind to play a spoiler somewhere else, and is just stating this to back away from her earlier position so that it doesn't look too suspicious.

Ken Burch

You're probably right.

Ken Burch

Does Ms. May still think she can actually win a seat in the House at some point in her life?  Or is she going to keep leading the "Green Party" and standing in unwinnable by-elections on its behalf until the Liberals finally take pity on the electorate and give her a Senate seat?

Or is this just attention-getting behavior?

David Young

If Elizabeth May doesn't run in the vacant riding next door, she will lose what little credibility she has left.

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But but,  if she did so, that might mean she might actually deprive a Con of winning, and that is not her purpose.

madmax

Why has this thread moved from Federal Politics Canada to  Central Ontario? Its still federal politics and obviously there are ridings from Coast to Coast that the GP leader can run in.  I don't see how blueskying about a riding in Ontario would suggest that this is a Central Canada only topic.

 

KenS

Frank deJong is sure sounding like he intends to run for the GPC leadership next year. [He already announced he is stepping down as GPOntario leader.]

That leadership contest [Fall 2010] will be decided in Ontario membership sign-ups. And May has not made herself popular among Ontario Green activists and organizers.

This turn of events may have something to do with her new found giving more than lip service away from where she is the centre of the Green universe.

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I never even noticed what forum it was in actually. But isn't central Canada, all of Canada anyway? ;)

Bookish Agrarian

As I am fond of pointing out Bruce-Grey or Grey-Bruce is the centre of the known universe.  For instance just look at how many babblers have a direct connection.  Some day we will rule all!!!

madmax

IS Grey Bruce where the Ground hog is???

Bookish Agrarian

We have quite a few more than one.  But if you mean Wiarton Willie than yes we have had a succession of Albino groundhogs. 

It is debatable of course, but Wiarton might be considered the logical capital of the nation of Bruce-Grey.

KenS

He's an imposter. Shubenacadie Sam is the real thing. Riding of King-Hants.

But I'll readily concede that there are many more groundhogs in any non-urban Southern Ontario riding than there are elsewhere.

If Elizabeth May can figure out how to get them on the electors list, and down to an advance poll, she's a weiner.

Bookish Agrarian

Getting to be less and less of them thanks to the growth in the coyote population.  (And I don't mean the Arizona kind)

And if you want to understand how some urbanites view places like Grey Bruce there was a call recently from a certain large urban centre to live capture their problem coyotes and release them into the 'wild' in rural Southern Ontario.  Like we don't have pets, or livestock, or children or what have you.  On my block alone last year coyotes killed three calves, a whole lot of chickens and probably more than a few rather adorable barn cats.

Now if Elizabeth May called for the release of our coyotes into the more affluent areas of Toronto she might actually have a winning strategy.

janfromthebruce

Bookish Agrarian wrote:

As I am fond of pointing out Bruce-Grey or Grey-Bruce is the centre of the known universe.  For instance just look at how many babblers have a direct connection.  Some day we will rule all!!!

 

Did someone call me???

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Webgear

BA, I would like to offer my services for the Grey-Bruce Liberation Army (GBLA).

I will follow you any where.

Give us liberty or give us death.

 

I also support your proposal of delivering coyotes and other large animals in to the GTA city limits.

 

Bookish Agrarian

Webgear wrote:

BA, I would like to offer my services for the Grey-Bruce Liberation Army (GBLA).

I will follow you any where.

Give us liberty or give us death.

 

I also support your proposal of delivering coyotes and other large animals in to the GTA city limits.

 

If we called it the Bruce Grey whatever

It could become known as the Bee Gees!

 

Some time I will have to go on my rant about the cottager who was being bothered by raccoons so live trapped them.  One morning while getting up early to walk down to our rented farm and bring home a load of hay I discovered her releasing them at the road just a few metres from our lane.  She explained to me that it seemed like no one lived around there.  It gets worse from there.

madmax

 

Bookish Agrarian wrote:

We have quite a few more than one.  But if you mean Wiarton Willie than yes we have had a succession of Albino groundhogs. 
It is debatable of course, but Wiarton might be considered the logical capital of the nation of Bruce-Grey.
Yep, the white spray painted Groundhogs...
.... you have made a strong case. How could any rational person argue against Wiarton......
 
KenS wrote:

He's an imposter. Shubenacadie Sam is the real thing. Riding of King-Hants.
But I'll readily concede that there are many more groundhogs in any non-urban Southern Ontario riding than there are elsewhere.
If Elizabeth May can figure out how to get them on the electors list, and down to an advance poll, she's a weiner.

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Threads as silly as the newspaper article.
Great stuff , but I go for the Albino, and while I think Nova Scotia is a nice place to visit, I am a supporter of Ontarios Ground hog.
Wiarton as Capital and May Stays in Nova Scotia, perhaps running in the Ground Hog Friendly King Hants Riding.
LaughingWinkTongue out

Tommy_Paine

 

I think it's fair to say that what makes Elizabeth May tick is attention.  Of course, one can fairly say that about any politician.  But May seems a tad pathological at times.

The groundhog, or marmot, is a frequent dweller in urban areas.  I saw one yesterday feeding along Cheapside street here in London.   I have a dusty memory about First Nations folktales that involve the Trickster being forever beholden to the groundhog because that's all he could find to eat when he first came to the area we know as Grey Bruce. 

The farm fences in Ontario used to have the occasional dead groundhog draped over it.  Hunters used to shoot them, and leave them on the fence to show the farmer that they'd cleared a pasture of the wicked beastie, whose burrows were said to break the legs of cows.

I always thought it a dubious idea, that cows stepped in groundhog burrows and broke legs.

On the other hand, I always give groundhogs a wide berth. Never underestimate their wood throwing abilities. How much wood?  Hard to say.  Maybe none if they can't chuck wood at all.

Best to play it safe.

 

Meanwhile, a coyote has been spotted around Spettigue's pond here in London, where Rebecca West and I went for a walk last week.  I did see some canine prints of the right size, but they looked to me like domesticated dog, not coyote.  The back pads of a coyote leave a different shape than that of domestic dogs.  However, I did see lots of scatological evidence, that is, canine poo that was shot through with hair. 

Indicative, I think of your coyote urban invasion plans, if you can believe that shit.

 

 

 

 

Webgear

Wind Turbine Health Concerns

The number of wind farms in the region is raising concerns from the head of the Bruce County Federation of Agriculture.

President Lorne Underwood spoke at the Bruce County Agriculture, Tourism, and Planning Committee meeting in Walkerton yesterday.

Underwood says there is a two kilometre stretch located Southeast of Ripley that is not completely buried.

He says he spoke with a few residents who are not living in their own homes because of the health problems cause by the nearby wind turbines.

Underwood says women are experiencing more of the symptoms -- like headaches and nausea -- than men because they are inside these homes more often.

He says men are often working outside doing chores but do develop the same problems.

Tommy_Paine

 

It's unclear from the article just what they are pointing to as the cause of health concerns.  Is it the turbines, or unburried power lines?  Both?

I know there was some controversy regarding the health of people living close to high tension lines, but I think that was debunked, and there's no discernable link between adverse health and hydro lines.

As I laid out before, I'm inclined to lend creedence to health concerns due to low frequency sound.  But, these things are measurable and testable.   I'm sure studies have been done.  My search skills aren't very good, but I'll give it a shot.  There must be data somewhere.

 

Tommy_Paine

 

It seems from looking at a few sites that infrasound isn't a human health issue.  But, I think that's based on the idea that the low end of the human range of hearing is 20hz, with some people being able to hear as low as 15hz. 

There is little I could find (which doesn't mean much, between my waning patience and poor search skills) which deals with human perception below 15hz.  I don't think it's been studied much. 

Which may be due to the idea that in order to be a receiver for sound waves, the receiver has to be larger than the distance between the waves.  When they say larger, I'm not sure if that's body size or ear size. 

However, I found no account for structures becoming a kind of resonance chamber for infrasound.   Which may explain why some people more often in the house near wind turbines feel affected while those more often outdoors less so.

 

rural - Francesca rural - Francesca's picture

don't be dissing the groundhog!

As for the martime knock off...can't hold a candle to our Willie

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