Lefty guilty pleasures

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I think one of the possible problems with the Watchmen movie is the timing.  I think it would have had more impact a year or two ago, when we were still in the grips of the Bush administration. 

When the movie "V for Vendetta" climaxed with the explosion of the British House of Commons, I turned to my wife and said: "This isn't a movie-- it's a call to arms".

I don't have a problem watching a movie made from a book.  I don't compare the two anymore, just accept it as the same story told through two different media.    I think "Moby Dick" taught me that.  I love the two movie versions of it even though a movie doesn't stand a hope in hell in capturing the book, verbatim.   But I loved the book, too.





Tommy_Paine summed up my personal approach well earlier in the thread; I try to soak up enough pop-culture water-cooler stuff to remain generally conversant, though am an obscurantist geek at heart (especially musically).  I'm not sure why we progressives are fretting about whether our entertainment is 'left' enough, though; the tide of mainstream junk that I've been exposed to only serves to reinforce and strengthen my convictions.  Besides, I have no desire to live in an echo chamber.


" Besides, I have no desire to live in an echo chamber."

Good comment. 

I still love Nugent's early albums, and even have the vinyl and I've seen him twice when I was in my teens. But, I would not pay a dime to buy anything of his. He is so far over to the right that there is just no way I would help him acquire more money. 

I'll have to check out The Watchmen and Stardust. Thanks for the heads up. 

Anyone besides me into Alexandrp Jodorowsky? Amazing director of masterpieces  such as El Topo, Santa Sangre, Holy Mountain and Fando and Lis? He was set to make Dune with a Pink Floyd sound track and some amazing actors but could not get any funding for it, not being an established mainstream Hollywood director. 

Here is a link to what we will forever miss. Booo and hiss. 







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My growing kung fu weapons collection.  Well, actually, I don't feel that guilty about it...  It's just cool.  I'm hoping for another sword for Christmas.

Come to think of it, I'm getting more and more unapologetic in my old age.  We've been hooked on Desperate Housewives for a while, I suppose that qualifies.  Reading a novel when the accounting isn't caught up.  Cake for breakfast after the kids I insisted eat something healthy leave for school. 

Eh, what's the point of guilt, it just makes you tireder than you already are.  Waste of energy.


Desperate Housewives you say! I'm coincidentally just about to watch episode 10 from season 5.


Selected tracks from the musical quartet of James Hetfield, Lars Ulrich, Kirk Hammett and Robert Trujillo, such as One, Sanitarium, Fade To Black, Master of Puppets etc, played at an ear splitting decibel level.


I admire the metalurgy and craftsmanship behind the Katana and I don't feel in the least guilty in that.

It's interesting that so much of the "guilt" here is centered on attraction-- on some level-- to violence.

Where are our lefty historians here? Seems to me there was much less pacifism on the left back in the 30's, when we were the first to fight fascism.

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I just got back from Berlin where I spent a few days, plus a small side trip to Prague. Over the last year, I've taken more planes than I had in my entire life previous. I suppose this is my biggest lefty guilty pleasure. Exploiting the cheap flights of Britain. My last trip was less than fifty GBP return, and that is actually quite expensive in general. The train, in contrast, which would entail a eurostar from London to Paris, then a sleeper to Berlin, would be minimum 250 GBP return, which doesn't factor in the cost of the extra day. Of course there are other factors that make the train more appealing--stress, comfort, leg room, restaurant car, a morning in Paris, etc. But most middle-class people wouldn't consider the train.

I think everyone should be allowed and encouraged to travel, but cheap flights--especially considering the expansion of both Heathrow and Stanstead in the face of the environmental crisis--are barbaric when it comes down to it. More than the environmental damage, which is immense, there's not much cultural exchange occurring, which for me, is the principal benefit of travel. British cultural enclaves are popping up throughout Spain, Greece and Italy--but they contain only the worst of British culture: lifeless pubs showing the football with Tennant's on tap, Karaoke, lounge singers, fighting louts and endemic rape. And you never have to speak a word of a different language, or indeed, to someone who is not also British.

I was actually reminded of Hitler's 'Strength Through Joy' campaign before WW2, where he invented the cruise ship industry: affordable vacations for middle-class workers and officers--whose sole purpose was to recharge their soul in order to bleed it more efficiently. Indeed, these cruise ships never docked outside of German borders, despite their lengthy tours, in order to keep all money spent on such trips within the nation.

Ick. So that's my guilty pleasure. Perhaps a bit darker (and a worse injury) than the OP had in mind.


Tommy_Paine wrote:


While I don't think it would be fair to single out Ted Nugent for mysogyny in song lyrics above and beyond what we can find from many other artists in many other genre's, his song "Stranglehold" is, perhaps,  a leading example of mysogyny in pop music.   I will admit that I love the slow grind guitar work in that song.  But the lyrics make it unlistenable for me. 


I dunno, I still like to drive around listening to Double Live Gonzo, especially that gentle tune he dedicated to "all that Nashville pussy" ( a line that is sorta like The Nuge playing Muddy Waters' role in naming the Rolling Stones), "Wang Dang Sweet Poontang." "Great White Buffalo" is purty good, too.

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I have to admit a certain liking for Toby Keith's "You Ain't Much Fun Since I Quit Drinking".


That reminds me of George Thorogood's "If you don't start drinkin'--I'm gonna leave."

I will admit to wearing the grooves off of "Double Live Gonzo" thirty or more years ago.  I liked it because it was a huge wall of sound-- a maelevolent force from some wicked fairy tale.   But when Ted talks, he's... embarassing, mostly, and I felt that way even back then.  I do get a kick out of the part when he asked if anyone "came to get mellow", and there's this hoarse voice from the crowd that screams "rock and roll!!!" it allways makes me laugh.  I can remember taping the odd Ted song for compilation tapes, but always cutting off the stupid noise endings Ted employed because finishing a song in a musical way was beyond his abilities.

Well, I don't know where they come from but they sure do come......


Anyway, enough of Ted. There is such a thing as too much of a bad thing.

Stargazer, my daughter arrived home from Ireland on Wednesday, and brought with her a copy of Neil Gaiman's "The Sandman:  Preludes and Nocturnes"  I highly recomend this one.


"I will admit to wearing the grooves off of "Double Live Gonzo" thirty or more years ago.  I liked it because it was a huge wall of sound-- a maelevolent force from some wicked fairy tale.   But when Ted talks, he's... embarassing, mostly, and I felt that way even back then. "


Yeah, back in the spring of 1978 I'd drive around listening to a cassette of the record.  I used to think Ted's banter was moronically funny back then.  I downloaded a torrent of the record recently.  The 30-year gap in listening has altered my view of Ted's "funny" qualities quite a bit.


[How do you find the "quote" function on babble now?]


I don't.  I just cut and past and put it in bold.   The quote function quotes too much, for my usual purposes.