Will capitalism survive climate change?
They do talk about environment and economics. Maybe I just don't get the question, but your topic inspires me to want to write about a couple of things.
From the mouth of the CEO of Canada's biggest pipeline and energy company: "it is wrong to risk the health of our economy over something that might not be real such as global warming". He may be wrong, but it is all about economics and environment.
The response I give to the CEO is:"It is the economic risks that are probably not real, whereas global warming is more or less a certainty". But at least we are still talking!!
I do go on, of course: it is wrong to say there is a risk to the economy, it is only a risk to oilmen ; even the energy industry will do just fine even if we reduce emissions and use less fossil fuels.
A gradual change from fossil fuels to renewables will stimulate the economy, plus it will eventually result in LOWER energy costs as the installations get paid off and are producing power without any further input costs [such as shovelling coal into a burner for every kilowatt of power produced]. To do nothing about emissions just to protect the vested interests of some of the wealthiest people on the planet is purely criminal.
Spreading the wealth around is purely "anti-capitalist", but it is DEMOCRATIC. We have to try to balance the two. Where energy costs can be lowered it will benefit the average person, but it takes away from the staunchest capitalists amongst us - the oilmen. No wonder they fight it and pretend that global warming is not real.
One more thing - the Canadian economy is not a purely capitalist economy. It is a mix of socialism and capitalism.There is probably no purely capitalist economy anywhere. Even in America the government is the biggest employer - one in three jobs is a government job. Consider the US Army - obviously a "government program" - it is also the biggest consumer of fossil fuels in the USA, and so even that great hallmark of capitalism - the oil industry - is closely tied to government.
Capitalism, such as it is, will survive climate change, yes. There are allways public concerns to be addressed by government, which is just our way of being organised when we need to address issues that affect us all, like needing an army.
Working for a capitalist government is no different than working for a capitalist private firm. Government workers are still required to produce surplus value that is appropriated by their employer for its own use.
Are you seriously suggesting, for example, that the U.S. Army is a socialist enterprise?
N.Beltov wrote:This is the second author that I have read recently who writes about non-capitalist markets. The other is Ellen M. Wood who wrote a very interesting book about the origin of capitalism.
The best book I have read about the role of markets in post-capitalist societies is Against The Market by David McNally. His main target is the concept of so-called "market socialism" but he demonstrates quite effectively how market economics stalls the development of socialism by perpetuating alienation, inequality, and all the other effects of commodity production.
Quote:The current obsession with GDP growth at all costs must be abandoned, shifting the emphasis to human welfare in a post-growth strategy where jobs, communities and environments are no longer sacrificed. Likewise, a shift to a post-consumer society is needed. So is a shift to much more participative and popular forms of democracy, capable of joining up environmental and social issues to tackle climate change coherently and urgently.
So says James Gustave Speth, the author of a new book, [url=http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2008/0809/1218206284125.html... Bridge at the Edge of the World: Capitalism, the Environment, and Crossing from Crisis to Sustainability[/url] (Yale 2008).
This April 3 item by Walden Bello seemed a natural for discussion, but I cannot find a peep, anywhere.
I actually posted a link to it [url=http://www.rabble.ca/babble/environmental-justice/ecosocialism-ii#commen..., two days before it even appeared on rabble.ca.