"He had a machete, shovel, two axes, a bunch of knives, a double-headed ax, a bulletproof vest, numerous sets of handcuffs, as well as the firearm used to kill him," Lt. Steve Cooper of the Charleston, West Virginia, police department, told The Huffington Post.
Police also found a list containing the names of an unspecified number of women inside the man's vehicle.
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"We have been able to locate most of them and they were all on a website advertising for escort services," Cooper said. "The stuff that we found is so alarming that we want law enforcement across the country to be aware of it."
Falls, 45, was killed on Saturday after he met a female escort through Backpage.com, an online classified ad portal often used by men seeking prostitutes. Falls went to the escort's Charleston apartment, and got into a brief but intense altercation with her, police said.
"Nearly immediately after he stepped into her apartment, he said 'live or die' and a struggle ensued," Cooper said. "[Falls] laid his gun on a counter so that he could get a firmer grip around the victim's throat with both his hands and she was able to scoop that weapon up and fire one round, killing Mr. Falls."
The escort, who has not been identified, was hospitalized with multiple injuries, including broken vertebrae. Authorities have determined the shooting was a justifiable homicide.
Incredibly strong woman to have kept her head and gotten the gun and fired it. The attack occured in her own apartment.
Advertising on Backpage or any similar site is an advertisement for men who want to abuse women. I am glad advertising by third parties has been made illegal in Canada. No one should be able to profit from placing women in danger even if it is the woman themselves to initiate it.
Forgot the link
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/neal-falls-escort-weapons_55b0017ee4...
The correct term is sex worker.
I think that depends about one's attitude to sex work. Pondering wrote nothing derogatory about the woman; on the contrary.
I feel the term is deragatory and I have some idea about pondering's attitude toward sex.
I expect that the choice between the words "separatist" and "sovereigntist" probably similarly depend on one's attitude toward sovereigntism (or, separatism).
But I think that progressives have historically tried to go with whatever a population identifies as, and chooses as their label. Why would this be different?
well babble has a sex worker forum, not a prostitute forum
some feminists don't recognize the title sex worker. the term only has to be used in the sex worker forum, not here.
The Mods have noted many times that all of babble is feminist space. There's no freedom to be anti-feminist just because you're not in th FF.
This is somehow different? OFFICIALLY different?
oh my.
yup.
and use of prostitute is NOT anti-feminist at all.
I disagree.
I respect the choice of women who prefer to use the term sex worker for themselves or others. I would never refer to Susan Davis as anything other than "sex worker" because that is the term she chooses for herself and others in the same profession.
The word "prostitute" is used by many women who have been in the profession and The New Zealand Prostitute's Collective has it in their name. I believe "prostitute" is also used in legal documents. I consider the term "sex worker" to be too vague as it includes women who are not prostitutes.
And one's orientation towards sex work has nothing to do with "attitudes towards sex". That is the old insinuation that people who would like to achieve the abolition of the trade are sex-hating puritans. There are many different positions within the feminist movement on this issue. You might want to read the recent Québec solidaire documents: in general abolitionist, but not through legal, repressive means. I don't think there is any way out without ending dire poverty among women and girls.
The incident took place in West Virginia, which has criminalized both full-service sex workers and their customers (aka, prostitutes and their johns). See link. Also, the attacker was from Oregon, which similarly criminalizes sex workers and their customers. See link2. Thus, it could be seen as example of how criminalization of full service sex work makes it ever more dangerous for full service sex workers (IE, forces sex workers more underground, and it fosters more social ambivilance toward them).
Tim Bosma died trying to sell his car because he went with a stranger to allow him a test drive. Allowing strangers to come to your home, being alone with them, is a dangerous thing to do.
The most frequent type of random crazy is aimed at women by men and most especially women who are sexually active even more so if they charge and/or are attractive. Men can be victims, like Tim Bosma, and women can be perpetrators as in the pregnancy attack. Backpage is like dial-a-victim for serial killers as well as your average abusive man who is willing to pay for it.
Legitimization can't protect against this type of targeting. A woman alone allowing a stranger into her home or going into his is seriously dangerous, sometimes even if you know the man and people know that you are with him, like Jian Ghomeshi, a real sweetheart in comparison to what else is on the roulette wheel.
Thread title edited to reflect a more progressive sex worker supportive term. Let's not use words like "prostitute", "call girl", etc.
Statistically I bet there's far more incidents of violence (including murder) between married couples than there are between strangers doing commerce on sites like Backpage or Craigslist. Thus, marriage should be illegal.
Percentage wise I doubt it.
Websters defines sex worker thus:
sex worker nounDefinition of SEX WORKER : a person whose work involves sexually explicit behavior; especially : prostitute 1
The term also includes actors in porn and strippers and that is according to Susan Davis. It is a less accurate term.
Prostitute is not a disrespectful term and it is used within the thread and by women who have been or are prostitutes. It is the legal term used in legislation.
In my opinion you are expressing personal bias in changing the name of this thread. "Prostitute" is a word used by rabble and by many progressive women.
"Sex worker" is used by people who favor legalization.
If it stays sex worker then I don't want to be the thread author because it is not a term that I would ever use.
I don't know what you're capable of changing but if you can't change it then I would appreciate the thread being deleted because I would not have begun it under your terms.
Morality laws must be abolished.It's a 19th Century policy.
And it would end most,if not all,problems including exploitation and violence agaiunst women.
Domestic violence on the other hand is the real problem.
bs it would not end most or even a few problems. if men are willing to be violent against their partners and children they sure as fuck won't give a shit about a stranger.
and i call fking bs on your use of "morality" in the feminist forum to try and say feminist abolitionists are doing this based on morality beliefs. you are expropriating MY VOICE, LIVED EXPERIENCES FORMING OPINIONS AND PERCEPTIONS. STOP!!!!!
It isn't different. Some prostitutes and former prostitutes prefer the word "prostitute" rather than the more general "sex worker" that also refers to workers who are not prostitutes.
It seems to me that the term "sex worker" is used to blur the lines between different types of "sex work". I'm against making sex work illegal but in favor of prostitution being illegal.
"Sex worker" is not a synonym for prostitute therefore the words cannot be used interchangably.
Morality laws are inherently immoral.
Relax.
It's also morality laws that keep sex workers in danger.
BS? Sorry. It's called reality.
I am not rebooting the argument on legitimization of prostitution as an industry. It's been discussed from every angle. So far there have been no legal challenges to the new law that I have heard of.
Regardless of the legality or illegality of prostitution there are dangers inherent in backpage/Craigslist types of listings to everyone but even more so for lone woman. This is why I cited both Bosma and the pregnant woman who was attacked by another woman.
Legal prostitution would mean legal brothels which would mean workers would not have to advertise their services on Craigslist or any other publication. It would also put pimps out of business which would take a huge bite out of exploitation and white slavery.
Nowhere in the world has decriminalization of prostitution led to a measurable net reduction of violence against prostitutes so what you claim to be "reality" is your opinion not fact.
While some women claim that they are not harmed by prostitution there are many woman and communities who claim extreme harm from prostitution. Many aboriginal communities consider it an extension of colonialism.
How to avoid becoming victims of male violence is a deadly serious topic for women regardless of the circumstances under which it occurs.
For now the question of legality in Canada is settled. There are no legal challenges being heard. This incident was specific to backpage and the safety ramifications of using this method of advertising for anyone and especially for prostitutes.
So let's continue subject these women to live in clandestine shadows,exploited by their pimps,the cops and their clients.
In Amsterdam and Hamburg,the workers are protected and if you can show me the numbers that prove that legal sex workers have to deal with the realities of sex work in countries still clinging to 19th century morality laws,I promise to shut up.
It is not your place to hijack a thread in the feminist forum and make it all about legalizing prostitution.
Your simplistic logic has not proven to be the case in real life and has been argued out countless times on babble at a much more sophisticated level.
It will take at least ten years to see whether or not the new law has had a net positive or negative impact on Canada.
I would appreciate it if you would allow women to lead the conversation without us having to meet your demands to get you to shut up.
I've reported this personal attack, fyi.
"Choice" is only truly free if the people making it have the freedom to make other choices; that is to say, lliberated from oppression. In my experience working in addiction treatment, the vast majority of sex workers/prostitutes tend to leave that industry when they are no longer economically coerced by addictions or extreme poverty of other causes.
And the case that legalization results in safety has not been proved. The fact of the matter is since time immemorial, sex work/prostitution has put women in harm's way. Certain psychopathic men are drawn to murder sex workers. Unlike the case for legalization, that's a fact that has been conclusively proven.
Not going to go there
I see. So you agree that our drug and prostitution laws are a failure.
I don't see how prohibition helps sex workers.
In any case,I'm done with this topic.
Thanks, Meg.
Jezebel.com gets it.
Hero Woman Acting in Self-Defense May Have Just Offed a Serial Killer
Bold added
Now magazine had an article in their last issue about Backpage and sex work.
Need more?
tks meg.