2016 Democratic National Convention

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NorthReport

Most of his supporters will vote the Democratic ticket.

Bernie Sanders started a political revolution. Now he can’t stop it. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/bernie-sanders...

josh

NorthReport wrote:

That's Democrat spin. Why the focus on the leak rather than the despicible stuff that was in the emails?

Many people are now being left with the impression Clinton stole the nomination

Donna Brazile has made a huge personal and public apology to the Sanders people  - that is the story, and it does not look good on Clinton.

 


Right, the FBI is investigating spin. Sounds like Republican spin to me,

NorthReport

After playing anti-Semitism card against Trump, Wasserman Schultz sunk by aides’ anti-Bernie emails

http://www.jpost.com/US-Elections/After-playing-anti-Semitism-card-again...

NorthReport

This is the story of the convention so far:

The DNC just apologized for bashing Bernie Sanders in private emails

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12279146/dnc-apology-bernie-sanders

NorthReport

Donna Brazile is one class act. 

Clinton should be ashamed for appointing Schultz Honary Chairperson

Donna Brazile Apologizes Over DNC Leaks At Black, Latino Caucus Meetings

“I sincerely apologize my friends for those of you who took offense and were offended — feel betrayed and were betrayed —by the ridiculous, insensitive and inappropriate emails from the staff of the Democratic Party.”

 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/darrensands/donna-brazile-apologizes-over-dnc-l...

 

NorthReport
Left Turn Left Turn's picture

[url=http://usuncut.com/politics/portia-boulger-video-sanders/]This Sanders Delegate Unleashing on Hillary Clinton Is Going Absolutely Viral [video][/url]

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Today at the convention, one woman best summed up the feelings of those remaining Sanders supporters who refuse to support Clinton, giving a scathing review of the choice voters are being left with heading into the general election.

Asked about whether she thought Trump was a better choice, she launched into a brutal tirade:

I don’t give a f*ck about Trump! OK? Trump is dangerous for this country, and so is Hillary Clinton!

The woman, pledged Bernie Sanders delegate Portia Boulger, went on to slam Hillary Clinton on a wide rage of topics, including her support for fracking and desire to send troops into more armed conflicts.

Boulger then called out the decision to give Debbie Wasserman Schultz a job on the Clinton campaign staff just hours after being forced from her position at the DNC:

How can America believe this when yesterday she proved to us that when you are a corrupt person, she is going to promote you. What did she do with Debbie Wasserman Schultz? She promoted her! So what does that say about the Democratic Party? We need to clean house!

iyraste1313

Solomon also said while it was okay to vote third party in blue or red states – it was not okay in swing states – with the imperative being to defeat Donald Trump.

But the Bernie delegates are not as convinced.

While Solomon might want Bernie delegates to vote for Hillary, Bernie delegates have a different take.

They have forced DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Shultz out.

Now they have bigger fish to fry....Russell Mokhiber, counterpunch

 

Debater

Bernie Sanders

We have got to defeat Donald Trump and do everything we can to elect Hillary Clinton to the White house.

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/757707676583391232

josh

iyraste1313 wrote:

Solomon also said while it was okay to vote third party in blue or red states – it was not okay in swing states – with the imperative being to defeat Donald Trump.

But the Bernie delegates are not as convinced.

While Solomon might want Bernie delegates to vote for Hillary, Bernie delegates have a different take.

They have forced DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Shultz out.

Now they have bigger fish to fry....Russell Mokhiber, counterpunch

 


Norman Solomon is right.

josh
josh
Geoff

The best thing Hilary could do is step aside and let Bernie take the reins as the Democratic Party's presidential candidate. Otherwise, get ready for President Trump.

NorthReport

Bernie has pulled it off with the speech he needed to make tonite
He has unified the party as much as he could to get his supporters to rally behind Hillary
Good job.

josh

Classic Bernie. Just a shame he's not the nominee.

NorthReport

Overall a brilliant first day

Chris Matthews made a glowing tribute saying the Democrats had a better first day than the GOP had on their last day

NorthReport

Silverman is fantastic

Cody87

NorthReport wrote:
Overall a brilliant first day Chris Matthews made a glowing tribute saying the Democrats had a better first day than the GOP had on their last day

I wonder how bad things would have had to have been for him to say the Dems had a worse night.

NorthReport
SeekingAPolitic...

I reserve judgement(to see what the polls says) but I have to say he did not hold back in giving the nod to hilliary.  When she loses Bernie can not be blamed.  I have to watch 4 key states.

NorthReport
NorthReport

This headline sums it up best and considering what was going on Sunday and even this morning it was a superb day for the Democrats and their A-Team, but it all depends on Thursdy nite

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/democratic-national-convention-cli...

NorthReport
NorthReport

But Cory Booker - what a great speaker!

NorthReport

That Clinton trust issue keeps coming up again, and again, and again

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/dnc-leak-clinton-team-deflected-st...

mmphosis

I Wonder.

I haven't even heard Trump speak, I just see the odd things he says come up on news sites.  I watched the Democratic National Convention for the first time a bit yesterday from a live stream.  For me, it is a lot like when I watch mainstream TV news which I really can't watch anymore.  It's all so so so fake.

There was a politician with a comedian Bernie supporter and they just weren't funny.  It's a show.  It's all fake.  The camera pans around the convention with spots on aging celebrities watching the show.  The speakers call for unity, and they can't get enough people to start cheering Hillary.  The camera pans some more and they show some of the Bernie supportors, the man in a suit with "Feel The Bern" lights glowing through the back.  I like the signs that say "Love Trumps Hate" (clever double entendre.)  The final "joke" is that Paul Simon is going to sing "Bridge over Troubled Water."  And someone shouts "bullshit."  The audience has been waiting for Paul Simon.  I hear a musician playing a Rodriguez riff before they come on -- it's "I Wonder."  Paul Simon comes on and sings his song.

NorthReport

Democratic Machine Chose Clinton Long Ago. But Why?

http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-07-25/democratic-machine-cho...

NorthReport

So today the nomination roll-call with hopefully Vermont last where Sanders will make it unanimous & Bill will be speaking as well.

NorthReport

Shaming the Democrats Back in Line

For the party elders, day one of the convention was about scolding the left back together.

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/shaming-the-democrat...

NorthReport

You have to pick your battles. Sanders did it! Good on him.  Smile

Mr. Magoo

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The real story is what was in the emails not who dumped them

The real story is what was in the confession, not how it was obtained.

Mr. Magoo

That's two of those today.  Are you experiencing double-posts?  Or are you trying to make that a "thing", where you show your disagreement using Morse Code for "O"?

NorthReport

Agreed!

 

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NorthReport

Maybe Jimmy Carter was hoping to be in Bernie's Cabinet.

NorthReport

How sweet it is!

Remember Tulsi Gabbard - she nominated Bernie today.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/tulsi-gabbard-resigns-as-dnc...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard

 

 

 

NorthReport

Donna Brazile - great lady! 

mmphosis
Cody87

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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The real story is what was in the emails not who dumped them

The real story is what was in the confession, not how it was obtained.

Yeah that analogy doesn't work. A confession obtained through coercive means may be falsified. This is not the case with the dumped emails...Unless you're suggesting the DNC emails are falsified (which I haven't seen suggested anywhere). The focus on Russia is more like saying "who cares about the dead body, care about the person who found the dead body."

Of course, if you ARE suggesting the emails were falsified...good luck with that narrative Laughing

Mr. Magoo

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Yeah that analogy doesn't work. A confession obtained through coercive means may be falsified.

Perhaps.  Or maybe through a wiretap that just somehow lacked a warrant.  Then what?  What do we do with that?

mark_alfred

Michelle Obama gave quite the speech.  I'm betting that if we see her run for Senator of a state or political office of some sort, to gain experience, that eventually we'll be seeing her make a go for POTUS.

NorthReport

Why do you think Tulsi Gabbard quit the DNC a few months ago?

The Clintonites got caught trying to rig the nomination.  

So ask yourselves who benefits?

As good as hunch as any the other Clinton spins making the rounds is Sanders benefits and my hunch is his people did it and good on him. Sanders could have blown the convention wide open over this breech and he didn't. Why not? 

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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Yeah that analogy doesn't work. A confession obtained through coercive means may be falsified.

Perhaps.  Or maybe through a wiretap that just somehow lacked a warrant.  Then what?  What do we do with that?

The problem is that criminal evidence rules are for deciding the guilt of those accused of crimes. They are not applicable in general to discovering the truth of any non-judicial matter. They are more concerned with assuring a fair system than with discovering the truth.

Mr. Magoo

So...  a "fair system" is more important, or "the truth" is?

Because lots of people would tell you that if someone confesses to a crime in an illegal wiretap, "the truth" should be what we concern ourselves with.

I guess I'm just saying that there are, in fact, two stories here, and we're not restricted to only bothering ourselves with one of them.

NorthReport

Bill Clinton appears to be hitting it out of the ballpark tonite.

Cody87

Mr. Magoo wrote:

So...  a "fair system" is more important, or "the truth" is?

Because lots of people would tell you that if someone confesses to a crime in an illegal wiretap, "the truth" should be what we concern ourselves with.

I guess I'm just saying that there are, in fact, two stories here, and we're not restricted to only bothering ourselves with one of them.

People get tried in the court of public opinion all the time. Jian Ghomeshi didn't get his job back with CBC.

NorthReport

OFGS.

Cody87

NorthReport wrote:

OFGS.

What? We all know Jian Ghomeshi was guilty, the crown's burden of proof is not relevant for the public to hold him in contempt. Nobody is going to pull their punches against him because of "fairness" just because he beat the legal system.

Likewise, we all know the DNC rigged the primaries in favour of Clinton and basically controls most of the American media. We knew this before the leaks, but now there's no longer plausible deniability. Just because the emails were not obtained by means that would be admissible in court is not relevant for the public to hold the DNC in contempt. Nobody is going to pull their punches against the DNC just because it's "unfair" they had a leak/got hacked.

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Mr. Magoo wrote:

So...  a "fair system" is more important, or "the truth" is?

For a criminal justice system, it has been the overwhelming opinion of those who have drafted due process provisions in constitutions and bills of rights around the world that fairness trumps truth.

Mr. Magoo wrote:

Because lots of people would tell you that if someone confesses to a crime in an illegal wiretap, "the truth" should be what we concern ourselves with.

"Lots of people" would be foolishly consigning their countrymen to an easily abused police state, where Cardinal Richelieu's dictum applies: "If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged."

The truth is most important in science, engineering and other mostly objective fields. Fairness and other moral considerations are more important in law and other social institutions.

 

 

mark_alfred

A curious news item:

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It's now official: the U.S. could, conceivably, elect a woman as president this November for the first time in its history.

And that's an idea that, back in 1995, one Walmart location in Florida found "offensive." Thanks to Twitter user Nick Kapur for reminding us of this strange story:

In 1995 Walmart pulled "Someday a woman will be president" T-shirt from shelves, saying it offended "family values."

"It was determined the T-shirt was offensive to some people and so the decision was made to pull it from the sales floor," said Jane Bockholt, a spokeswoman for the company at the time.

The company also said the shirts went against "Walmart's family values."

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-wednesday-edition-1.36...

 

NorthReport

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