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josh

John Catanzara, elected last May to represent the city’s 12,000 rank-and-file police officers, said he understands the frustration behind the riot, which led to four deaths, injuries to several police officers and damage to the iconic building.

“There was no arson, there was no burning of anything, there was no looting, there was very little destruction of property,” Catanzara told WBEZ in a Wednesday evening phone interview. “It was a bunch of pissed-off people that feel an election was stolen, somehow, some way.”

Catanzara echoed President Donald Trump’s oft-repeated false claims that Joe Biden stole the election. But the FOP leader admitted there is no proof.

https://www.wbez.org/stories/chicago-police-union-president-defends-those-who-stormed-us-capitol/6842fa80-3b83-4396-af05-a5f15f4ac740?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wbez

NDPP

World Leaders Condemn 'Horrifying' Riot at US Capitol

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/world/world-reaction-us-capitol-riot-intl...

"Democratic leaders reacted with comments on line, describing the chaotic scenes as 'shocking' and 'disgraceful'. NATO Secretary-General Jens Stollenberg, who rarely comments on the internal affairs of the alliance's member states, urged Americans to respect the outcome of the November elections. His call was echoed by European Parliament President David Sanoli, who added, 'We are certain the US will ensure that the rules of democracy are protected.'

As the chaos unfolded, several foreign embassies in Washington issued stay-at-home notices for their citizens, and European leaders began deploying the language usually reserved for incidents in which democratic values and rule of law are under siege..."

 

'If the United States saw what the United States is doing in the United States, the United States would invade the United States.' - Mohamad Safa, Lebanon's Permanent Representative to the UN

josh

We spend $750 billion annually on "defense" and the center of American government fell in two hours to the duck dynasty and the guy in the chewbacca bikini.

https://twitter.com/YousefMunayyer/status/1347026407294201863?s=20

NDPP

Although I would have preferred the Washington Capitol protesters to be of the left not right, I must admit the spectacle of the Imperial hegemon's politicians cowering with fear on the floor of their chamber before the righteous anger of a citizens' occupation was for me profoundly pleasing.

kropotkin1951

As I watched this unfold I was thinking much the same thing.

Although I have to say, what has shaken the U.S. population so badly, this assault on the Capitol yesterday, is really nothing by comparison to what U.S. operations have done in Latin America, in Asia, in Africa, in the Middle East, to other democratic movements and elected governments over the years. You know, just days before this, remember, the U.S. Congress, by an overwhelming margin, passed the defense authorization bill to pump more money toward the Pentagon and overseas special operations, and, through other measures, is backing those operations of the CIA, basically dedicated to, whenever the order comes down, being ready to go in and overthrow democracy. So, Americans are now getting a mild taste of their own medicine, in a sense.

https://www.democracynow.org/2021/1/7/us_foreign_election_interference_a...

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A very good point.

JKR

NDPP wrote:

Facial Recognition Firm Claims Antifa Infiltrated Trump Protesters who Stormed Capitol

NDPP, why are you spreading fascist Trump's b.s.?

JKR

NDPP wrote:

Although I would have preferred the Washington Capitol protesters to be of the left not right, I must admit the spectacle of the Imperial hegemon's politicians cowering with fear on the floor of their chamber before the righteous anger of a citizens' occupation was for me profoundly pleasing.

Some people also found the Reichstag Fire profoundly pleasing.

NDPP

Re #1656. WATCH...

"If rioters storm buildings in unfriendly countries western media glorifies them, yet condemns the riot in DC. If a woman was shot/killed in any unfriendly country it would have been on TV endlessly. FB/Twitter ban or block Trump/allies but not liars about elections in Bolivia."

https://twitter.com/s_m_marandi/status/1347441913427763205

josh

Images of rioters overpowering a light law enforcement force and smashing their way into the Capitol building prompted immediate questions about how such a dramatic security breakdown could occur, especially given that rioters had openly voiced their intent to use violence on social media.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-protests-washington-guard-military/2021/01/07/c5299b56-510e-11eb-b2e8-3339e73d9da2_story.html

josh

This is Jenny Cudd from Midland, Texas. She recently ran for mayor.

Meet Jenny Cudd from Midland Texas "WE did break down @SpeakerPelosi's office door and somebody stole her gavel and I took a picture sitting in the chair flipping off the camera and that was on Fox News"

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1347384440343953411?s=20

 

josh

Big protest in D.C. on January 6th,” Mr. Trump tweeted on Dec. 19, just one of several of his tweets promoting the day. “Be there, will be wild!”

A Capitol Police Officer has died after being injured by a protester in the Capitol on Jan 6.

NDPP

Fake news. No dead cop.

josh

United States Capitol Police Officer Brian D. Sicknick passed away due to injuries sustained while on-duty. He was responding to the riots at the Capitol when he was injured by rioters/domestic terrorists.
 

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1347408734163673089?s=20

 

josh

There were infamous white nationalists and noted conspiracy theorists who have spread dark visions of pedophile Satanists running the country. Others were more anonymous, people who had journeyed from Indiana and South Carolina to heed President Trump’s call to show their support. One person, a West Virginia lawmaker, had only been elected to office in November.

. . . .

what comes into focus in the storming of the Capitol is a jumbled constellation of hard-core Trump supporters: a largely white crowd, many of them armed with bats, shields and chemical spray; some carried Confederate flags and wore costumes of fur and horns inspired by QAnon; they were mostly men but there were women, too.

https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1347513742171451393?s=20

 

josh

On the morning of Jan. 6, Ginni Thomas—wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas—endorsed the protest demanding that Congress overturn the election, then sent her “LOVE” to the demonstrators, who violently overtook the Capitol several hours later. She has not posted since.

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1347395084527017985?s=20

 

josh

Dominion Voting Systems filed a defamation lawsuit against lawyer Sidney Powell, demanding more than $1.3 billion in damages for havoc it says Powell has caused by spreading “wild” and “demonstrably false” allegations, including that Dominion played a central role in a fantastical scheme to steal the 2020 election from President Trump, the Washington Post reports.

 

NDPP

[quote=josh]

United States Capitol Police Officer Brian D. Sicknick passed away due to injuries sustained while on-duty. He was responding to the riots at the Capitol when he was injured by rioters/domestic terrorists.
 

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1347408734163673089?s=20

 

[quote=NDPP]

It now appears so. I was basing my earlier comment on this from  The Hill:

Capitol Police Say Reporting of Officer's Death are Wrong

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/533274-Capitol-Police-say-reports-of-o...

Two events of significance have happened in Washington over the past couple of days. A riot and a coup. The bad and 'dangerous' orange man who refuses to do what he's told will not be permitted to misbehave any longer or pursue a stolen election. Much high drama, chaos, confusion and hyperventilating by all. One thing only was abundantly clear. Mao was right and the whole world saw how the rabble forced the mighty to flee like frightened children to their basement and 'shelter in place.' I smell panic and disorder and a desperate attempt to make it look otherwise.

"In appearance it is very powerful but in reality it is nothing to be afraid of. Outwardly a tiger, it is made of paper, unable to withstand the wind and rain."

josh

After a mob of Trump supporters were done storming the Capitol at the President’s urging, there was a bone-chilling message left behind that was scrawled on a door: “Murder the Media.”

. . . .

Schaff reported that “two or three men in black” surrounded her, then “became really angry” and violent when they saw her New York Times press pass.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/threats-cable-nooses-trump-supporters-terrorized-media-during-insurrection

Makes sense.  After all, they're the "enemy of the people."

JKR

NDPP wrote:

Re #1656. WATCH...

"If rioters storm buildings in unfriendly countries western media glorifies them, yet condemns the riot in DC. If a woman was shot/killed in any unfriendly country it would have been on TV endlessly. FB/Twitter ban or block Trump/allies but not liars about elections in Bolivia."

I think the Trump mob's attack of the Capitol will make it more likely that right wing led mob attacks will now be more common place worldwide. This has emboldened the right worldwide.

JKR

NDPP wrote:

Fake news. No dead cop.


Mainstream media news have reported that officer Brian Sicknick has passed away.

kropotkin1951

JKR wrote:

NDPP wrote:

Re #1656. WATCH...

"If rioters storm buildings in unfriendly countries western media glorifies them, yet condemns the riot in DC. If a woman was shot/killed in any unfriendly country it would have been on TV endlessly. FB/Twitter ban or block Trump/allies but not liars about elections in Bolivia."

I think the Trump mob's attack of the Capitol will make it more likely that right wing led mob attacks will now be more common place worldwide. This has emboldened the right worldwide.

They sure don't need anymore encouragement in Bolivia or in Venezuela. The same kind of right wing thugs get support from the Canadian embassy when democratically elected left wing governments are overthrown by fascists. Our mining companies and sweatshop owners love the kind of people who support fascist coups.

Pondering

JKR wrote:
I think the Trump mob's attack of the Capitol will make it more likely that right wing led mob attacks will now be more common place worldwide. This has emboldened the right worldwide.

Probably, but it is destroying the Republicans in the US and to a lessor extent the Conservatives here.

Neither party can afford to lose even 2% of their support (federally). The only way they have been able to win has been gerrymandering and voter suppression in the US. That hasn't been so successful in Canada. 

The Trumpers will either run the Republican party or leave it. I think leave it because Republican leadership realizes it has gone way too far.  They won't all leave but they don't all have to leave (not vote) to doom the party. There is a contingent that believes the party betrayed Trump.  Another contingent thinks Trump betrayed them when he condemned the rioters. They were convinced they were doing his bidding. 

NorthReport

Trump ally Ronna McDaniel reelected to head Republican National Committee

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ronna-mcdaniel-reelected-republican-nationa...

NDPP

Kunstler: Fog and Noise

https://kunstler.com/cluster-fuck-nation/fog-and-noise/

"Is there a game on? Consider: What you're seeing may not be what you think you're seeing. If an 'ordinary transition to the next administration' meant what you think it means, Nancy Pelosi would not be shrieking for an insta-super-quickie impeachment. Something's up and it's making them even more hysterical than usual.

The game is a deadly one because there is so much at stake: careers, reputations, fortunes, lives, the climax of four years of sedition Gotcha. The 'Resistance' threw everything it could at the Golden Golem of Greatness. It discommoded him in his duties, and wasted the nation's precious time in a gathering crisis of civilization, but nothing stuck to him: RussiaGate, impeachment, not even covid-19. The November election was the final play. Ever find, in a game of chess, that you've blundered unwittingly into a checkmate...?"

 

NLR: Riot on the Hill

https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/riot-on-the-hill

'Yesterday's sacrileges in our temple of democracy - oh, poor defiled city on the hill, etc.'

"...Let me be clear, the Republican Party has just undergone an irreparable split. Institutionally, Senate Republicans, with a strong roster of young talents, will the rule the post-Trump camp and, via vicious darwinian competition - above all, the battle to replace McConnell - bring about a generational succession, probably before the Democrats' octogenarian oligarchy has left the scene. The major internal battle on the post-Trump side in the next few years will probably center on foreign policy and the new cold war with China.

That's one side of the split. The other is more dramatic: the True Trumpists have become a de facto third party, bunkered down heavily in the House of Representatives. As Trump embalms himself in bitter revenge fantasies, reconciliation between the two camps will probably become impossible, although individual defections may occur. Mar-a-Lago will become base camp for the Trump death cult which will continue to mobilize his hardcore followers to terrorize Republican primaries and ensure the preservation of a large die-hard contingent in the House  as well as the red-state legislatures. (Republicans in the senate, accessing huge corporate donations, are far less vulnerable to such challenges).

Tomorrow, liberal pundits may reassure us that the Republicans have committed suicide, that the age of Trump is over, and the Democrats are on the verge of reclaiming hegemony. Similar declarations were made during vicious Republican primaries in 2015. They seemed very convincing at the time. But an open civil war amongst Republicans may only provide short-term advantages to Democrats, whose own divisions have been rubbed raw by Biden's refusal to share power with progressives. Freed from Trump's electronic fatwas, moreover, some of the younger Republican senators may prove to be much more formidable competitors for the white college-educated suburban vote than centrist Democrats realize.

In any event, the only future that we can reliably foresee - a continuation of extreme socio-economic turbulence - renders political crystal balls useless."

josh

Nancy Pelosi shrieking?  Can he get any more sexist?  This guy and Rush Limbaugh are soulmates.

Meanwhile:

America's international military and security allies are now willing to give serious credence to the idea that Trump deliberately tried to violently overturn an election and that some federal law-enforcement agents — by omission or otherwise — facilitated the attempt.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attempted-coup-federal-law-enforcement-capitol-police-2021-1?fbclid=IwAR3vNNmsUQ_u9sBlqFVDrKBf2H42rVpo867QtEFIaYlWYg2J4pQ_RitucdU

 

NDPP

Greenwald: Violence in the Capitol: Dangers in the Aftermath

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/violence-in-the-capitol-dangers-in-67f

"...It is stunning to watch now as every War on Terror rhetorical tactic to justify civil liberties erosions is now being invoked in the name of combatting Trumpism, including the aggressive exploitation of the emotions triggered by yesterday's events at the Capitol to accelerate their implementation and demonize dissent over the quickly formed consensus.

The same framework used to assault civil liberties in the name of foreign terror is now being seamlessly applied - often by those who spent the last two decades objecting to it - to the threat posed by 'domestic white-supremacist terrorists,' the term preferred by liberal elites, especially after yesterday, for Trump supporters generally. In so many ways, yesterday was the liberals' 9/11, as even the most sensible commentators among them are resorting to the most unhinged rhetoric available.

Calls proliferated for the banning of the social media accounts of instigators and protest participants. Journalists and politicians cheered the decision by Facebook and Twitter to temporarily bar the President from using their service, and then cheered again when Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced on Tuesday, that the ban on Trump extended through Biden's investigation. Some journalists, such as CNN's Oliver Darcy, complained that Facebook had not gone far enough, that more censorship was needed of right-wing voices. The once-radical 2006 Gingrich argument - that some opinions are too dangerous to be expressed became close to a consensus.

Those who argued in the summer that property damage is meaningless or even noble are treating smashed windows and looted podiums at the Capitol as treason, as a coup. One need not dismiss the lamentable actions of yesterday to simultaneously, reject efforts to apply terms that are plainly inapplicable: attempted coup, Insurrection, sedition. There was zero chance that the few hundred people who breached the Capitol could overthrow the US Government - the most powerfully armed and militarized entity in the world - nor did they try.

It has long been clear that, in the post-Trump era, media outlets looking to keep viewers hooked, and government officials looking to increase their power, will do anything possible to center and inflate the threat posed by right-wing factions. I've said this more than I can count over the last year at least. Like all inflated threats, this one has a kernel of truth. As is true of every faction, there are right-wing activists filled with rage and who are willing to do violence. Some of them are dangerous (just as some Muslims in the post-9/11 era, and some Antifa nihilists were and are genuinely violent and dangerous).

But as was true of the Cold War and the War on Terror and so many other crisis-spurred reactions, the other side of the ledger - the draconian state powers clearly being planned and urged and prepared in the name of stopping them - carries its own extremely formidable dangers..."

NDPP

'Learning from the Best!' (NDP gets tips from Obama team, considers dropping 'New' from 'NDP', 2009)

Ban and Designate the Proud Boys as a Terrorist Organization

https://twitter.com/theJagmeetSingh/status/1347284583709093889

"Yesterday was an act of domestic terrorism. The Proud Boys helped execute it. Their founder is Canadian. They operate in Canada right now. And, I am calling on them to be designated as a terrorist organization, immediately. Sign here if you agree."

OK, but only if you add the JDL....

josh

One need not dismiss the lamentable actions of yesterday to simultaneously, reject efforts to apply terms that are plainly inapplicable: attempted coup, Insurrection, sedition. There was zero chance that the few hundred people who breached the Capitol could overthrow the US Government - the most powerfully armed and militarized entity in the world - nor did they try.

As Greenwald should well know, there were more than a few hundred people.  Some were carrying rope and handcuffs.  Who knows what they would have done had they gotten a hold of people they were searching the Capitol for, such as Pelosi.

As far as an attempted coup, that is not entirely clear, as the post above discusses.

And as far as threats to civil liberties, I am not aware of any legislation discussed to restrict them as after 9/11.  Twitter is a private entity.  No one has a right to post there.  If you want to make them public utilities, that's another discussion.

NDPP

"While leaders of the 'free world' condemned a few hundred Trump supporters invading the US Capitol, they were silent at yet another massive Israeli assault on the Syrian capital of Damascus."

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1347089875032543233

And especially as it was an Israeli one.

josh

Police have arrested Florida man Adam Christian Johnson, who was pictured carrying Nancy Pelosi’s lectern on Wednesday He is being held on a federal warrant.

https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1347901957466415111?s=20

 

NDPP

"Ruling class/permanent state using exaggerated 'danger' from clownish Trump who is finished anyway as pretext to stage a coup, the way the US-backed Egyptian military used 'danger of Morsi.' In both cases liberals and many 'leftists' cheered, failing to understand, they'd be next."

https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/1347750597999669250

josh

Clyburn told the network that he had heard from others in Congress that their staff  reported seeing members of the violent mob being let into the building “through side doors.”

“Somebody on the inside of those buildings were complicit in this,” the South Carolina lawmaker asserted.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/clyburn-suggests-someone-within-us-capitol-was-complicit-in-letting-mob-inside

NDPP

Someone with connections who stood to gain something from it perhaps...?

https://twitter.com/kkoch0213/status/1347363005466632192

"This is Michael Vos. He is the one that walked by me in the crowd with the bullhorn and was recruiting patriots to storm the Capitol after the speech. I looked him right in the eye and knew something was wrong...He is married to Nancy Pelosi's daughter..."

NDPP

By wrongly calling the Capitol rabble 'terrorists' Joe Biden will likely create some

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/01/by-calling-trump-supporter-terrori...

"The hyperventilating over Wednesday's MAGA cosplay in the Capitol Building, continues. The real danger to the people does not come from those 'deplorables' who walked into the Capitol but from the 'elite' who will use the incident for their own purposes..."

josh

NDPP wrote:

Someone with connections who stood to gain something from it perhaps...?

https://twitter.com/kkoch0213/status/1347363005466632192

"This is Michael Vos. He is the one that walked by me in the crowd with the bullhorn and was recruiting patriots to storm the Capitol after the speech. I looked him right in the eye and knew something was wrong...He is married to Nancy Pelosi's daughter..."

Posting more right-wing fake news? At some point it is clear that you are what you post.

CLAIM: Nancy Pelosi’s son-in-law helped rioters access the U.S. Capitol.

THE FACTS: The false claim stems from a photo of Pelosi's son-in-law, a Dutch American journalist, while he was reporting outside the Capitol on Wednesday. Michiel Vos, who is married to Pelosi’s daughter, was reporting on the insurrection for the Dutch television channel RTL 4’s talk show Jinek. The image shows Vos outside the Capitol with a rioter who was also photographed storming the building. The protester, Jake Angeli, wore a furry hat with horns. The photo of the two was shared on social media to promote the false theory that the riot had somehow been staged and Vos had helped. “How come this guy in the buffalo costume walked straight into the chamber for a photo op? Did he have a special pass? NO! He is friends with Pelosis’ son pictured here,” read one false post that was widely shared on Facebook. The photo was also used in posts that made the baseless claim that antifa was behind the insurrection. “Antifa capitol stormer allegedly with Nancy pelosi’s son in law. .Vos. Is that how they got in?” a Facebook user wrote. The post has since been deleted. There is no evidence Angeli, a known Trump supporter, is an antifa activist, or that he was assisted by Vos. In an email, Vos told the AP, “I was in DC covering the events outside the Capitol.” In a phone interview with the Dutch TV program, Vos said that Pelosi, his wife and son had to take shelter inside the building, while he reported from outside the building.

https://news.yahoo.com/not-real-news-look-didnt-214208388.html

NorthReport

They call themselves "good guys". I think most folks will go with Biden's description.

melovesproles

Someone with connections who stood to gain something from it perhaps...?

https://twitter.com/kkoch0213/status/1347363005466632192

"This is Michael Vos. He is the one that walked by me in the crowd with the bullhorn and was recruiting patriots to storm the Capitol after the speech. I looked him right in the eye and knew something was wrong...He is married to Nancy Pelosi's daughter..."

It is incredible how desperate Republicans are to try to disassociate themselves from this that they would consider this "evidence". They must be really scared and turning on each other like drowning rats.

NDPP

WATCH: Capitol Police Open Doors for the Protestors...

https://twitter.com/christina_bobb/status/1347596278583197698

"They stand aside and invite them inside..."

 

WATCH: The Police opened the fucking gates...

https://twitter.com/cevansavenger/status/1346920924310867968

NorthReport

Who let them in? Gee that's a tough one. Let me ponder that for a moment

https://www.salon.com/2021/01/08/republican-lawmakers-caught-helping-pro...

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josh

They blame Trump for the violence, believing she got caught up in the president’s lies about the election.

“It cost her her life,” Lonna Cave said.

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-police-elections-7051411972c58cfbbf079876ce527ab4
 

JKR

NDPP wrote:

By wrongly calling the Capitol rabble 'terrorists' Joe Biden will likely create some

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/01/by-calling-trump-supporter-terrori...

"The hyperventilating over Wednesday's MAGA cosplay in the Capitol Building, continues. The real danger to the people does not come from those 'deplorables' who walked into the Capitol but from the 'elite' who will use the incident for their own purposes..."

NDPP, tell that to the families of the people who died there. 

JKR

NDPP, supporting lies and bogus conspiracy theories has consequences.

NorthReport

Well said JKR. Democracies can be fragile, and they need to be monitored and protected. Education is the key. 

JKR

NR, that's true. The gullibility of Americans shows how the U.S. education system has been a huge failure. Hopefully we're doing a much better here in Canada.

kropotkin1951

JKR wrote:

NDPP wrote:

By wrongly calling the Capitol rabble 'terrorists' Joe Biden will likely create some

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/01/by-calling-trump-supporter-terrori...

"The hyperventilating over Wednesday's MAGA cosplay in the Capitol Building, continues. The real danger to the people does not come from those 'deplorables' who walked into the Capitol but from the 'elite' who will use the incident for their own purposes..."

NDPP, tell that to the families of the people who died there. 

What does this statement mean? One protestor was shot dead by police, one police officer was killed by being hit with a fire extinguisher by a rioter, one woman was trampled to death like it was a Black Friday opening and two old white guys died of heart attacks from the excitement. The only one I feel sorry for is the poor cop who was doing his job trying to stem the tide of a mob.

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