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JKR

NDPP wrote:

"George experiences an attack of schadenfreude when he watches the liberal media cluck over the Capitol attack, forgetting about the invasions and regime changes the US has been responsible for*. What really happened in Washington? Who did what to whom? Maybe this was all a set-up? Maybe this was all a provocation to jump start what comes next...?"

me too - some cluckers here cheer them on.

I would use a word that rhymes with "cluckers" to describe the people here and elsewhere who spread conspiracy theories to support fascist leader Trump and his fascist cult of personality.

NDPP

You should listen. You might learn something.

JKR
JKR

More scary stuff being circulated by Trump's cult of personality:

Million Militia March set for January 20, 2021

JKR

NDPP wrote:

You should listen. You might learn something.

You should listen to what you are saying.

josh

melovesproles wrote:

What new legislation?

The legislation Schiff brought forward, which the ACLU opposes, and Biden namechecked a couple of days ago. But really I'd say using this to expand anti-terrorism legislation in general would be something I would oppose. Any chance you will give a non-cagey opinion on that or do you need a few months? I think everyone gets that you hate Trump since you post that dozens of times a week. Any other hot takes?

If the ACLU opposes it, I'd be very wary of the legislation, or any knee jerk responses.  But I haven't seen the details.  What is needed is for law enforcement to take the threat of right-wing terrorism more seriously.  

josh

He's always babbling about the people.  But the people didn't support him in 2016, and told him to take a hike in 2020.  

Pondering

NDPP wrote:

Hens to the Slaughter (and vid)

https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1348540149576163328

"George experiences an attack of schadenfreude when he watches the liberal media cluck over the Capitol attack, forgetting about the invasions and regime changes the US has been responsible for*. What really happened in Washington? Who did what to whom? Maybe this was all a set-up? Maybe this was all a provocation to jump start what comes next...?"

me too - some cluckers here cheer them on.

I went to the youtube video. His attack on moderates and his misleading claim that twitter is the public square doesn't impress me nor does his equating of  what happened in Hong Kong to what happened in Washington. He is doing it to build his argument, but that is what Trump did. Twist the truth to support your claims. 

bekayne

NDPP wrote:

Wolff Responds: DC Rage

https://youtu.be/kvzgRCjN2NQ

"More coming unless basic economic changes made. Prof Wolff talks about the recent events in Washington DC and explains what has caused them:

'This is an economic system spinning out of control, and what was seen at the Capitol building in Washington on January 6 was just another manifestation of angry working class people.

https://viewfromthewing.com/woman-takes-private-jet-to-storm-the-capitol...

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/tech-ceo-arrested-after-capitol-r...

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/seattle-police-officers-investigated-inv...

NorthReport

Fox News lies about trending topic on Twitter of violent threat against VP Mike Pence

A video circulated of President Trump’s supporters storming the Capitol and chanting, “Hang Mike Pence.” Fox News makes it sound like this message came from Twitter.

https://www.mediamatters.org/january-6-insurrection/fox-news-lies-about-...

Mobo2000

I thought this article on the end of the trump presidency was interesting and I largely agree with the author's perspective:

https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/11/in-the-end-he-lost/

"Repeat: Trump never commanded a fascist party. He galvanized a disparate menagerie of white nationalists, neonazis, klansmen, conspiracy cultists, religious idiots, grandmas concerned about pedophile cannibals led by the lizard people kidnapping our children. But they never constituted a coherent, disciplined movement.

The Trump tour concludes January 20. It may be viewed in future as an era of flirtation with fascism, in which the nation came “this close” to abandoning the manifest goodness of constitutional democracy for the obvious evil of autocratic rule. But in the end Biden normalcy triumphs."  ..

"I would not downplay the evil a madman is capable of, given another 12 days on the throne. But he is just that—an isolated, sick, vile madman—not the leader of a movement poised to seize state power. Which is to say, he’s a fake fascist too.

The impending reign of Joe Biden will entail confrontation with China over its control over its own waters, Russia over its borders and NATO expansion, Syria over its desire to preserve its sovereignty versus U.S.-backed terrorists, Iraq over its people’s desire to expel unwelcome U.S. forces, etc. It will be back to Barack Obama-Hillary Clinton normalcy. Cable news anchors considered “left” including those adulating Black Lives Matter will find no contradiction in embracing Harry Truman and the Cold War conception of U.S. (exceptional) leadership of the Free World against “our adversaries.”

The idea is to reject the despicable Trump’s coup attempt by a return to the ferociously familiar. Not fascism; that threat was always over-rated. But war. Just watch. The return to normalcy under decent Joe—after the long dark night of Trump—will be illuminated by the traditional rocket’s red glare, and bombs bursting in air, giving proof that the U.S. flag is still everywhere. And as Joe always says: God bless our troops."

Mobo:   The rehabilitation of neoconservative pundits and politicans like David Frum, John Bolton, Bush Jr, and Colin Powell is one of the most disgusting and annoying aspects of this whole episode.    Trump's incompetance was the best thing about his presidency.    I find the prospect of a competant, united American ruling class terrifying, particularly when the crimes of the most atrocious actors from the past are actively disappearing down the memory hole.   

Mobo2000

I want to echo the question asked by meloveproles earlier -- JKR, are you in favour of strong domestic anti-terrorism legislation as a reponse to the attempted "coup"?

More on the antiterrorism legislation Biden team is proposing:

https://news.antiwar.com/2021/01/08/biden-calls-pro-trump-capitol-protes...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-urged-to-take-fresh-lo...

"Biden voted for the 2001 Patriot Act, which greatly expanded the federal government’s surveillance capabilities. He has said the Patriot Act was modeled on a terrorism bill he wrote after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, that was never signed into law.

“I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing,” he was quoted as saying by the New Republic in 2001. “And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill,” he said, referring to then-Attorney General John Ashcroft.

In a 2002 Senate hearing on FBI counterterrorism efforts, Biden again took credit for creating the Patriot Act. “Civil libertarians were opposed to it,” he said. “Right after 1994, and you can ask the attorney general this, because I got a call when he introduced the Patriot Act. He said, ‘Joe, I’m introducing the act basically as you wrote it in 1994. [sic]'”

Democrats in Congress are also calling to prioritize domestic terrorism. Rep. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI), a former CIA analyst and Pentagon official, made her priorities clear in an interview with MSNBC.

“The post 9/11 era is over. We are in a new era. We had a generational event with the infiltration of the Capitol,” Slotkin said. “The single greatest national security threat right now is our internal division. It’s the threat of domestic terrorism.”

 

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

As far as I can see, left opinion in the U.S. is pretty much unanimous that more draconian laws are not the solution to the problem of domestic terrorism by right wing militias and similar. What is needed is better enforcement of existing laws and stronger focus on the right wing extremists who actually kill people, rather than water protectors and similar threats to capital.

JKR

I agree that existing U.S. laws seem capable of dealing with domestic terrorism although maybe some laws should be modified to take into account changes in digital communication and social media. I would go along with the ACLU in determining what should be done to deal with domestic terrorism.

Maybe this topic of dealing with domestic terrorism should be moved to a more appropriate thread or maybe it even warrants its own thread?

NorthReport

Angela Merkel, no great friend of Trump, has just expressed concerns about businesses self-regulating the Internet 

https://ssir.org/articles/entry/its_time_for_government_to_regulate_the_...

 

kropotkin1951

josh wrote:

If the ACLU opposes it, I'd be very wary of the legislation, or any knee jerk responses.  But I haven't seen the details.  What is needed is for law enforcement to take the threat of right-wing terrorism more seriously.  

The problem is that in the US "law enforcement" is synonymous with white supremacy. WTF did you think BLM was about? Now you think those police ans security services somehow contain a fucking answer.

Your system is irreparably broken because Trump is not the disease he is just a minor symptom. The police actions in city after city to BLM and the ongoing deaths of minorities for merely living in America is the disease. Your response is to say trust the Democratic elite to root out white supremacy. You sir are extremely brainwashed.

 

NDPP

From the 'Right': America Just Experienced a Coup, but it Wasn't by Trump

https://www.revolver.news/2021/01/globalist-coup-against-trump/

"In its aggressive reaction to the storming of the Capitol Building on Wednesday, the press, Democrats and even Republicans have settled on one preferred term. 'Attempted coup.' A coup d'etat has been carried out. The Trump presidency is over."

 

Kunstler: Insurrection versus Insurrection

https://kunstler.com/klusterfuck-nation/insurrection-versus-insurrection/

"...By its work this weekend - starring Jack Dorsey (Twitter), Zuck (Facebook), Tim Cook (Apple), and Jeff Bezos (Amazon and WaPo), you know exactly what you would be getting with The Resistance taking power in the White House and Congress; unvarnished tyranny. No free speech for you! They will not permit opposing voices to be heard, especially about the janky election that elevated America's booby-prize, Joe Biden, to the highest office in the land."

 

From the 'Left':  Did Trump Walk into a Trap?

https://youtu.be/c-6-shE6YPY

'It's so damned obvious that it was deliberate'- Paul Jay /'The Deep State is in charge.' - Col Larry Wilkerson (ret)

"It was a piece of theatre that pulled off the real coup that almost everyone wanted, and that's the end of Trump. Perhaps even Chuck Schumer was involved. Credit him with the most exaggerated and ridiculous rhetoric, calling Jan 6, 'a day that will live in infamy,' 'on the scale of Pear Harbour'. But words like 'sedition', 'insurgency' and such are just attempts to intimidate the members of Congress that were still hitching their wagons to Trump's groteque megalomania. Insurgencies require guns, they require sections of the army. That isn't what happened...There should be an investigation into the leaders of Congress, who allowed this to take place. Perhaps then the word 'sedition' would be applicable..."

 

Johnstone: The Boot is Coming Down Hard and Fast

https://caityjohnstone.medium.com/the-boot-is-coming-down-hard-and-fast-...

"A lot's been happening really fast. Biden has announced plans to roll out new domestic terrorism laws in the wake of the Capitol Hill riot. Did you know that Biden has often boasted about being the original author of the US Patriot Act? The correct response to a huge section of the citizenry doubting an electoral system we've known for years is garbage would have been more transparency, not shoving the process through and silencing people who voice doubts..."

'When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar - you're telling the world you fear what he might say.'

Mobo2000

Another libertarian perspective on the social media blackouts of Trump accounts and assorted conservatives, from Ron Paul, who was recently locked out of his facebook page:

https://original.antiwar.com/paul/2021/01/11/the-war-on-terror-comes-home/

"After all, a look at Biden’s incoming “experts” shows that they will be the same failed neoconservative interventionists who gave us weekly kill lists, endless drone attacks and coups overseas, and even US government killing of American citizens abroad. Progressives who complain about this “back to the future” foreign policy are also sure to find their voices silenced.

Those who continue to argue that the social media companies are purely private ventures acting independent of US government interests are ignoring reality. The corporatist merger of “private” US social media companies with US government foreign policy goals has a long history and is deeply steeped in the hyper-interventionism of the Obama/Biden era.

“Big Tech” long ago partnered with the Obama/Biden/Clinton State Department to lend their tools to US “soft power” goals overseas. Whether it was ongoing regime change attempts against Iran, the 2009 coup in Honduras, the disastrous US-led coup in Ukraine, “Arab Spring,” the destruction of Syria and Libya, and so many more, the big US tech firms were happy to partner up with the State Department and US intelligence to provide the tools to empower those the US wanted to seize power and to silence those out of favor.

In short, US government elites have been partnering with “Big Tech” overseas for years to decide who has the right to speak and who must be silenced. What has changed now is that this deployment of “soft power” in the service of Washington’s hard power has come home to roost."

Aristotleded24

Mobo2000 wrote:
Another libertarian perspective on the social media blackouts of Trump accounts and assorted conservatives, from Ron Paul, who was recently locked out of his facebook page:

https://original.antiwar.com/paul/2021/01/11/the-war-on-terror-comes-home/

"After all, a look at Biden’s incoming “experts” shows that they will be the same failed neoconservative interventionists who gave us weekly kill lists, endless drone attacks and coups overseas, and even US government killing of American citizens abroad. Progressives who complain about this “back to the future” foreign policy are also sure to find their voices silenced.

Those who continue to argue that the social media companies are purely private ventures acting independent of US government interests are ignoring reality. The corporatist merger of “private” US social media companies with US government foreign policy goals has a long history and is deeply steeped in the hyper-interventionism of the Obama/Biden era.

“Big Tech” long ago partnered with the Obama/Biden/Clinton State Department to lend their tools to US “soft power” goals overseas. Whether it was ongoing regime change attempts against Iran, the 2009 coup in Honduras, the disastrous US-led coup in Ukraine, “Arab Spring,” the destruction of Syria and Libya, and so many more, the big US tech firms were happy to partner up with the State Department and US intelligence to provide the tools to empower those the US wanted to seize power and to silence those out of favor.

In short, US government elites have been partnering with “Big Tech” overseas for years to decide who has the right to speak and who must be silenced. What has changed now is that this deployment of “soft power” in the service of Washington’s hard power has come home to roost."

Not only that, but Big Tech also partnered with the Chinese government in the 2000s to help the Chinese government in censorship of political dissidents in that country. It may be our turn to experience that in this part of the world.

JKR

NDPP wrote:

America Just Experienced a Coup, but it Wasn't by Trump

Why now, what should be done about this treacherous "coup" against the rightful winner of the election, the victim of the greatest fraud ever perpetuated on Americans, his excellency and rightful  leaderDonald J. Trump? Maybe a mob of Trump's "patriots" should storm the Capitol to "Stop the Steal?"*

*Warning: Believing these kind of preposterous fascistic  lies will only strengthen the fascists who are making them up.

melovesproles

The fact that the right thinks they can lose elections by over 7 million votes but somehow have the election stolen from them by an 'overreporting' of votes in primarily black districts shows how far gone they are. We're not talking about millions of alleged 'overreported' votes either. This is shameless anti-democratic whinging about the rigged electoral college system not delivering for them. It's not surprising that the only move they have now is outright intimidation and shows of force. This is fascism but the other fascist ingredients, corporate control of the state and a militarized imperialism, are just as prevalent in the Democrats. The War Liberals should learn the lesson of  you reap what you sow and stop training and dispatching troops to terrorize overseas populations. Eventually they do come home.  

The Democrats cozying up with Liz Cheney does not bode well on this front.

josh

What’s important here is the unflinching acknowledgment of two things: First, the claim by Trump and his enablers that he won is a deranged lie and anyone telling it is an enemy of U.S. constitutional democracy. Second, this lie is what incited the violent siege of the Capitol.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/12/republicans-must-unambiguously-admit-that-trumps-lies-threaten-more-violence/

 

NDPP

What I saw at the US Capitol on January 6

https://twitter.com/JMichaelWaller/status/1349266968298336256

"The deadly riot at the US Capitol bore the markings of an organized operation that was planned well in advance of the January 6 joint session of Congress. In reconstructing the confusion, I saw four different cells of organized militants. There was no incitement. The violence was planned. Here's the long version of what I witnessed..."

 

Trump violated the cardinal rule of ruling class politics in the US and stripped the empire bare of its 'aura of durability and legitimacy' during last week's takeover of Congress  (and vid)

https://twitter.com/anyaparampil/status/1349127565647228928

Grayzone's Anya Parampil and Brian Becker discuss the implications of Stop the Steal.

NDPP

Sen Josh Hawley Responds to Critics: 'Why I Objected'

https://www.semissourian.com/story/2859441.html

"Last week I objected during the Joint Session count of electoral votes in order to have a debate on the issue of election integrity. My objection proceeded according to the letter of the statute, which specifically permits for objections and debate, and followed the traditions of Congress.

In fact, dozens of Democratic members of Congress have lodged objections in precisely the same forum over the last three decades. To be specific, Democrats objected after the elections of 2000, 2004, and 2016 - in other words, every time a Republican has won the White House in the last thirty years..."

 

CrossTalk: Political Abyss? (and vid)

https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/512260-trump-presidency-compromise-tr...

"As the Trump presidency comes to an end, the country stares into a political abyss. Divisions are deeper than ever before and dialogue is almost nonexistent. Talk of compromise is deemed to be treasonous by many. This will hardly change on January 20."

JKR

After receiving death threats, Republicans say they’re afraid to vote to impeach; Vox; January 13, 2021

Quote:

There is a disturbing reason Republicans in Congress are giving for refusing to break with President Donald Trump: They fear for their lives. 

According to Rep. Jason Crow (D-CO), this is a major reason why more House Republicans aren’t voting to impeach Donald Trump in the wake of the attack on the Capitol.

“The majority of them are paralyzed with fear,” Crow said in a Wednesday MSNBC appearance. “I had a lot of conversations with my Republican colleagues last night, and a couple of them broke down in tears — saying that they are afraid for their lives if they vote for this impeachment.”

josh

Trump has instructed aides not to pay Rudy Giuliani's legal fees, two officials said, and has demanded that he personally approve any reimbursements for the expenses Giuliani incurred during his sham election challenge tour.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1349545751324418048?s=20

 

NDPP

Did Trump encourage his supporters to riot? You decide. (and vid)

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/56182.htm

"Everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

 

Eyewitness details first-hand account of Jan 6 riot (and vid)

https://rumble.com/vcrhx9-eyewitness-details-first-hand-account-of-jan.0...

Timeline contradicts official narrative.

 

Pepe Escobar: 9/11 was the prelude - 1/6 is the holy grail

https://www.informationclearinghouse.info/56181.htm

"...What matters is the end result: The manufactured product - 'Trump Insurrection' - for all practical purposes buried the presentation, already in progress, of evidence of electoral fraud to the Capitol, and reduced the massive preceeding rally of half a million people to 'domestic terrorism.' Whether civil war is coming will depend on the degree of stoicism prevalent among the Deplorable multitudes..."

NDPP

The Navarro Report Vol III

https://navarroreport.com

Yes, President Trump Won: The Case, Evidence and Statistical Receipts

kropotkin1951

JKR wrote:

After receiving death threats, Republicans say they’re afraid to vote to impeach; Vox; January 13, 2021

Quote:

There is a disturbing reason Republicans in Congress are giving for refusing to break with President Donald Trump: They fear for their lives. 

According to Rep. Jason Crow (D-CO), this is a major reason why more House Republicans aren’t voting to impeach Donald Trump in the wake of the attack on the Capitol.

“The majority of them are paralyzed with fear,” Crow said in a Wednesday MSNBC appearance. “I had a lot of conversations with my Republican colleagues last night, and a couple of them broke down in tears — saying that they are afraid for their lives if they vote for this impeachment.”

These same people have voted time and time again to fund right wing groups in countries like Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia etc etc. Many legislators in the south have been murdered as a result of those votes.

JKR

josh

NDPP wrote:

The Navarro Report Vol III

https://navarroreport.com

Yes, President Trump Won: The Case, Evidence and Statistical Receipts

The Big Lie. 
 

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1349874399361449984?s=20

 

josh

NDPP wrote:

Did Trump encourage his supporters to riot? You decide. (and vid)

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/56182.htm

"Everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

 

Eyewitness details first-hand account of Jan 6 riot (and vid)

https://rumble.com/vcrhx9-eyewitness-details-first-hand-account-of-jan.0...

Timeline contradicts official narrative.

 

Pepe Escobar: 9/11 was the prelude - 1/6 is the holy grail

https://www.informationclearinghouse.info/56181.htm

"...What matters is the end result: The manufactured product - 'Trump Insurrection' - for all practical purposes buried the presentation, already in progress, of evidence of electoral fraud to the Capitol, and reduced the massive preceeding rally of half a million people to 'domestic terrorism.' Whether civil war is coming will depend on the degree of stoicism prevalent among the Deplorable multitudes..."

LOL.  Still peddling right-wing bullshit?  Two months of the Big Lie of a stolen election by Trump more than stoked the fires of insurrection.  And as he precidcted, January 6th was "wild."  Fortunately, the coup failed.

NDPP

More 'big lies', 'fascists' and 'insurrectionists': Shameless... Quick. Cancel them.

https://youtu.be/3RV57sFsojA

https://youtu.be/EjbAFuoQOvo

https://youtu.be/uSfbEiV-Uxg

JKR

NDPP wrote:

More 'big lies', 'fascists' and 'insurrectionists': Shameless... Quick. Cancel them.

NDPP, next thing you know your "credible sources" will come up with breaking news that Biden was the one who assassinated JFK from the grassy knoll and that Biden was the one who flew the plane into the Pentagon! Maybe you'll also show us some YouTube videos that show us that currently Biden is the secret leader of the Elders of Zion and he is also renting out his basement suite to Big Foot! As it turns out, Biden spent the whole 2020 presidential campaign hiding in his basement planning how to steal the election with Bigfoot! This just in:Rudy Giuliani has just conclusively proven that  Biden had his bestest buddy Big Foot eat 8 million of Trump's votes!! 
 

P.S. Biden's buddy Big Foot goes by the alias Chew-Baka!

josh

NDPP wrote:

More 'big lies', 'fascists' and 'insurrectionists': Shameless... Quick. Cancel them.

https://youtu.be/3RV57sFsojA

https://youtu.be/EjbAFuoQOvo

https://youtu.be/uSfbEiV-Uxg

For once I agree with you, 100%.  And whatever happened to that Kracken woman?

NDPP

The fascist US duopoly marches on two jackboots: one for the 'right' and one for the 'left'...

https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/1348839181485674497

Be warned -  the Biden boot will come down on both.

 

'Sure we'll have fascism in this country. But we'll call it anti-fascism.' - Huey Long

NDPP

'Revoke Their Degrees!': Thoughtcrime and Blacklists at Harvard

https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1350080004181389312

"...This is beyond outrage. It is opportunism to use this tragedy to settle scores and purge opposing voices. The alternative is free speech. We can continue to engage each other in civil and respective dialogue - the very antithesis of what occurred on January 6th."

 

josh

I agree with Turley to the extent that some people are getting carried away.  But let's not forget that this is the same Jonathan Turley who testified that Bill Clinton deserved impeachment for lying about sex but Donald Trump did not for attempting to blackmail a foreign leader to dig up dirt on his opponent, and who opposes impeachment of Trump for lying about the validity of an election.  Not exactly an unbiased source.

NDPP

Nonsense. Your pro Biden position has always been abundantly clear, as is the reason for your equivocating now. Given what we know about the Biden crime family's activities in Ukraine, Trump's questions on Biden's corrupt and dodgy dealings were entirely proper - hardly 'High Crimes and Misdemeanors'.

Further, had the Dem-suborned FBI, who well knew the pertinent details of the Bidens' illicit and crooked Ukraine dealings and more were true, (having knowledge of the full extent of same, being in possession of Hunter's laptop, not 'a Russian disinfo op' as Biden lied in a desperate attempt to extricate himself ) advised the executive branch as they should have, Trump would have been redeemed, and that earlier bogus 'impeachment', designed like this latest one, first and foremost to protect Joe Biden's stolen election,  would have immediately collapsed like the corrupt concocted Dem souffle it was.

So it was, upon the laptop's reveal by the NYPost that all the Dems' corrupt msm accomplices collaborated to suppress and silence all these incriminatory revelations on 'the big guy's' son's computer. No doubt Uncle Joe will now move quickly to squelch any further investigations. Problem solved. The perfect crime.

Hunter Biden Failed to Disclose $400 k in Burisma Payments

https://nypost.com/2020/12/12/hunter-biden-failed-to-disclose-400k-in-bu...

josh

American Thinker and contributors Andrea Widburg, R.D. Wedge, Brian Tomlinson, and Peggy Ryan have published pieces on www.AmericanThinker.com that falsely accuse US Dominion Inc., Dominion Voting Systems, Inc., and Dominion Voting Systems Corporation (collectively “Dominion”) of conspiring to steal the November 2020 election from Donald Trump. These pieces rely on discredited sources who have peddled debunked theories about Dominion’s supposed ties to Venezuela, fraud on Dominion’s machines that resulted in massive vote switching or weighted votes, and other claims falsely stating that there is credible evidence that Dominion acted fraudulently. 

These statements are completely false and have no basis in fact. Industry experts and public officials alike have confirmed that Dominion conducted itself appropriately and that there is simply no evidence to support these claims. 

It was wrong for us to publish these false statements. We apologize to Dominion for all of the harm this caused them and their employees. We also apologize to our readers for abandoning 9 journalistic principles and misrepresenting Dominion’s track record and its limited role in tabulating votes for the November 2020 election. We regret this grave error.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/statement.html#ixzz6jeK3l6EG 

josh

NDPP wrote:

Nonsense. Your pro Biden position has always been abundantly clear, as is the reason for your equivocating now. Given what we know about the Biden crime family's activities in Ukraine, Trump's questions on Biden's corrupt and dodgy dealings were entirely proper - hardly 'High Crimes and Misdemeanors'.

Further, had the Dem-suborned FBI, who well knew the pertinent details of the Bidens' illicit and crooked Ukraine dealings and more were true, (having knowledge of the full extent of same, being in possession of Hunter's laptop, not 'a Russian disinfo op' as Biden lied in a desperate attempt to extricate himself ) advised the executive branch as they should have, Trump would have been redeemed, and that earlier bogus 'impeachment', designed like this latest one, first and foremost to protect Joe Biden's stolen election,  would have immediately collapsed like the corrupt concocted Dem souffle it was.

So it was, upon the laptop's reveal by the NYPost that all the Dems' corrupt msm accomplices collaborated to suppress and silence all these incriminatory revelations on 'the big guy's' son's computer. No doubt Uncle Joe will now move quickly to squelch any further investigations. Problem solved. The perfect crime.

You're rambling and babbling.  And becoming increasingly divorced from reality.  Maybe your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

NDPP

Democratic Senators Warned of Potential 'Vote Switching' by Dominion Voting Machines Prior to 2020 Election

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democratic-senators-warned-of-po...

We'll see Yanqui...

(See also #1779)

NDPP

No 'Direct Evidence' of Plot to Kidnap or Kill Lawmakers in US Capitol Attack

http://reut.rs/3iiXsuH

"A US Justice Department official on Friday said there is currently no direct evidence of efforts to capture or assassinate lawmakers in the Jan 6 attack on the US Capitol."

JKR

NDPP wrote:

Nonsense. Your pro Biden position has always been abundantly clear,...

Just as your pro-Trump position has always been abundantly clear.

NDPP

I'm a Canadian and not pro-Trump, pro-Biden, nor pro-chump gullible to whatever the msm says.

The Political Class At War with Each Other and the Rest of Us

https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/15/the-political-class-at-war-with-...

"..If you're looking for good guys, you won't find them on either side of this fight. It's a fight between two factions of the political class, with Big Tech trying to appease and co-opt one of those two factions. It's neither a revolution nor a fight for freedom. It's just a schoolyard brawl over which gang gets to rule. The interests of ordinary Americans aren't represented..."

JKR

NDPP wrote:

I'm a Canadian and not pro-Trump, pro-Biden, nor pro-chump gullible to whatever the msm says.

There are Canadians who support Trump. From reading your posts it's clear you want Trump to stay in power even if he didn't win the election. It's also clear that you think Biden "stole" the election from Trump. It's also clear you think Trump's coup attempt is "fake news." It's also clear that you downplay Trump's fascism and racism.

 

melovesproles

JKR, what are you going to do when Trump finally leaves office? Will politics be over for you? 

NorthReport
NDPP

I do think Biden stole the election and I find the evidence for that anything but 'baseless', therefore I do think 'Trump's coup' is fake news. The coup is Biden's and the 'CIA Democrats',  and furthermore, they've been trying for a while.  And unlike you and the babbleactionary cult of believe whatever they tell you -  I have been highly critical of both of these American monsters. You only one.

In reviewing some of my old postings I came upon this from 2017 by the great American leftist James Petras. How prescient he was...

Regime Change Comes Home: The CIA's Overt Threats Against Trump (2017)

https://petras.lahaine.org/?p=2124&print=1

"...The worst catastrophe that could fall on the United States would be a conspiracy of leftist and rightist politicos, the corporate mass media and the 'progressive websites' and pundits providing ideological cover for a CIA-architechted 'regime-change'.

Whatever the limitations of our electoral norms - and there are many - they are now being degraded and discarded in a march toward an elite coup, involving elements of the militarist empire and 'in 'telligence' hierarchy, mass propaganda, a 'red-brown' alliance, salacious gossip and accusations of treason - ('Trump - the Stooge of Moscow') resemble the atmosphere leading to the rise of the Nazi state in Germany.

A broad 'coalition' has joined hands with a most violent and murderous organization (The CIA) and imperial political leadership, which views overtures to peace to be high treason because it limits their drive for world power and a US dominated global political order."

josh

Prosecutors in Georgia appear increasingly likely to open a criminal investigation of President Trump over his attempts to overturn the results of the state’s 2020 election, an inquiry into offenses that would be beyond his federal pardon power.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1350241443135201280?s=20

 

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