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NorthReport

Any claims about election fraud are disputed.

NDPP

post hoc ergo propter hoc...

Media Trust Hits New Low

https://www.axios.com/media-trust-crisis-2bf0ec1c-00c0-4901-9069-e26b21c...

"For the first time ever, fewer than half of all Americans have trust in traditional media. Trust in social media has hit an all-time low of 27%..."

Can't imagine why. Surely it's not the incessant lies on behalf of power...Gosh, maybe you'll have to double the dose NR!
 

 

NorthReport

Any claims about election fraud are disputed.

josh

NDPP wrote:

'The owner of the Washington Post officially stated that mail-in ballot elections have serious and systemic flaws'

https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1353414586754621442

"Twitter is actually censoring this tweet that just states the news that Jeff Bezos has taken a stand against mail-in voting for workers at Amazon who want to vote on unionization. It's a fact that Bezos has taken this stance, not an opinion or claim of fraud. This is ludicrous."

This is only the beginning of such things under 'woke' corporate rule. As always, the censorship, silencing and suppression will be cheered on by  the usual chumps as long as Dems are in power.

What does Bezos's anti-union animus have to do with the topic of this thread?

josh

NDPP wrote:

post hoc ergo propter hoc...

Media Trust Hits New Low

https://www.axios.com/media-trust-crisis-2bf0ec1c-00c0-4901-9069-e26b21c...

"For the first time ever, fewer than half of all Americans have trust in traditional media. Trust in social media has hit an all-time low of 27%..."

Can't imagine why. Surely it's not the incessant lies on behalf of power...Gosh, maybe you'll have to double the dose NR!
 

 

They're the enemy of the people.  So said the recently departed Der Fuhrer.

kropotkin1951

NorthReport wrote:

Any claims about election fraud are disputed.

There has never been a single incident of election fraud in the history of US elections. Every one knows that.

NorthReport

Trump's coup didn't fail just from incompetence — credit the progressive activists who stopped him

To defeat the GOP's assault on democracy, it's critical for everyday voters to understand that they do have power

https://www.salon.com/2021/01/25/trumps-coup-didnt-fail-just-from-incomp...

NDPP

Election 2020: 'Our statement on the race for #NY22

https://twitter.com/claudiatenney/status/1353874513491079168

"The November election was more than 80 days ago and New York's 22nd Congressional District still has no representative in Congress."

NorthReport

How can America heal from the Trump era? Lessons from Germany’s transformation into a prosperous democracy after Nazi rule

https://theconversation.com/how-can-america-heal-from-the-trump-era-less...

NorthReport

Dobbs: Republicans lost in 2020 because they 'forgot who was the true leader'

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/536003-dobbs-republicans-lost-in-2020...

NDPP

According to this conservative publication Dem 'healing' is on the way...

Shocking US bill would allow Dems 'to steal elections forever'

https://wnd.com/2021/01/shocking-u-s-bill-allow-dems-steal-elections-for...

"The first bill of 2021 introduced by the House Democrats would codify and expand many of the measures blamed for election fraud in the 2020 elections. H.R.I. 1, the For the People Act, among other things, would establish nationwide mail-in voting, eliminate restrictions on ballot harvesting and ban voter-ID. Then Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R, KY., called it 'The Democrat Politicians' Protection Act.' Mr McConell said in an op-ed that Democrats were seeking to 'change the rules of American politics to benefit  one party..."

Libruls can always avert their eyes and support bad means to justify 'good' ends.

NorthReport
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NDPP

[HUGE] Four months after 2020 presidential election in Georgia no chain of custody documents produced for 440,000 absentee ballots deposited in drop boxes

https://georgiastarnews.com/2021/03/04/four-months-after-2020-presidenti...

"Four months after 2020 presidential elections in Georgia no chain of custody documents produced for  ballots deposited in drop boxes. Fulton county one of 35 scofflaw counties. In other words, there is no chain of custody for 67.5 percent - an estimated 404,691 - of the estimated 600,000 absentee vote by mail ballots deposited in drop boxes and delivered to county registrars and counted in Georgia's 2020 presidential election.

The presidential election outcome in Georgia was decided by fewer than 12,000 votes - about three percent of the 404,000 absentee vote by mail ballots..."

 

See also, The Navarro Report: Vol 2: The Art of the Steal

The Navarro Report

https://navarroreport.com

  1. The Immaculate Deception: 6 key dimensions of election irregularities
  2. The Art of the Steal: dramatically increase absentee & mail-in ballots in battleground states, dramatically decrease ballot verification
  3. Yes, President Trump won: The case, evidence and statistical receipts

 

JKR

NDPP wrote:

Yes, President Trump won: The case, evidence and statistical receipts

Lol - people actually believe this QAnon bs!?!?! Trump lost by more than 7 million votes!

josh

As a result of the lies NDPP is pushing, Republicans are pushing state laws that would require voters, particularly minority voters in urban areas, to stand in long lines to vote on machines that not too occasionally break.  

josh

Despite his false claims about mail voting during the 2020 election cycle, Trump requested a mail ballot on Friday for the third time in his Palm Beach County voter history.

The request was made nearly a week after the deadline to have a ballot be sent by mail. Mail ballots can be requested through Tuesday but must be picked up in person by the voter or a designee.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/local/2021/03/08/former-president-trump-requests-mail-ballot-after-2020-fraud-claims/4628538001/

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NDPP wrote:

[HUGE] Four months after 2020 presidential election in Georgia no chain of custody documents produced for 440,000 absentee ballots deposited in drop boxes

https://georgiastarnews.com/2021/03/04/four-months-after-2020-presidenti...

"Four months after 2020 presidential elections in Georgia no chain of custody documents produced for  ballots deposited in drop boxes. Fulton county one of 35 scofflaw counties. In other words, there is no chain of custody for 67.5 percent - an estimated 404,691 - of the estimated 600,000 absentee vote by mail ballots deposited in drop boxes and delivered to county registrars and counted in Georgia's 2020 presidential election.

The presidential election outcome in Georgia was decided by fewer than 12,000 votes - about three percent of the 404,000 absentee vote by mail ballots..."

 

See also, The Navarro Report: Vol 2: The Art of the Steal

The Navarro Report

https://navarroreport.com

  1. The Immaculate Deception: 6 key dimensions of election irregularities
  2. The Art of the Steal: dramatically increase absentee & mail-in ballots in battleground states, dramatically decrease ballot verification
  3. Yes, President Trump won: The case, evidence and statistical receipts

Yes, but we urgently need to know what Paul Gosar, Steve Bannon, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Roger Stone and Lauren Boebert think about this. Help us, NDPP, please.

JKR

josh wrote:

As a result of the lies NDPP is pushing, Republicans are pushing state laws that would require voters, particularly minority voters in urban areas, to stand in long lines to vote on machines that not too occasionally break.  

It's obvious that the Republicans are the ones rigging elections through racist and classist voter suppression.

kropotkin1951

The duopoly fixes elections. Just ask the Green's. The current Democrat's are not agents of change since the status quo does very well for the people who buy the votes for them. They propose that the central DNC and RNC can spend virtually unlimited amounts in targeted ridings. Instead of getting big money out of the equation the Democrats propose to add their central party committee to the game as a player. So much for citizen led democracy.

WASHINGTON — The Green Party has gone on the record with the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Rules with a request that HR1 be amended to strike a provision that would quintuple the amount of money presidential campaigns will be required to raise to qualify for federal matching funds. HR1 will raise the qualifying threshold for presidential campaign matching funds from $5,000 raised in each of 20 states to $25,000 per state in 20 states.“While HR1 is sold as a way to get money out of politics and to protect voters, it contains a ‘poison pill’ for democracy and opposition parties like the Green Party” said Green Party National Co-Chair Tony Ndege. “How can they call this bill ‘For The People’ when they are silencing alternative parties at a time when more people than ever are demanding more political choice?”

“The Green Party stands opposed to this bait-and-switch legislation that claims to improve access to voting while actually dismantling everyone's right to organize electorally against the parties of War and Wall Street,” said Green Party National Co-Chair Gloria Mattera. “In recent presidential elections, Greens have been the only candidates to participate in the primary matching funds program. HR1 must be amended to stop this attack on presidential campaign matching funds that Green candidates have relied on for almost a decade — or the bill must fail.”

The Green Party is calling attention to other problematic provisions in HR1, which will:

  • Abolish the general election campaign block grants parties may access by winning at least 5% of the vote in the previous presidential election
     
  • Replace those general election block grants (where candidates receive one lump sum for all campaign expenses) with matching funds through Election Day — a step backwards for public campaign finance reform. Qualifying for general election matching funds will depend on meeting the new primary matching funds criteria designed to squeeze out alternative parties and independent candidates
     
  • Eliminate the limits on donations and expenditures candidates can receive and make
     
  • Inflate the amount of money national party committees can give to candidates from $5000 to $100 million, an astonishing increase of 1999900%

https://www.gp.org/hr1_poison_pill_to_crush_alternative_parties_requires...

NorthReport
kropotkin1951

NorthReport wrote:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/community/chapel-hill-news/chn-o...

This is an interesting opinion piece on the symbolism of the Confederate Flag. It has absolutely nothing to do with the 2020 US election.

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And here's some actual election fraud, by a Republican in Florida of all things.

NDPP

Months after Trump complaints, some courts are finding irregularities in 2020 elections

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/thumonths-after-trump-...

"Long after former President Trump dropped his legal challenges to the 2020 election, some courts in battleground states are beginning to declare the way widespread absentee ballots were completed or counted violated state laws..."

See also #1865

JKR

Trump didn't drop his legal challenges; his legal challenges were laughed out of court.

JKR

Trump's supporters are saying that because states chose to allow for much more mail-in voting because of Covid-19 Trump should be declared the winner of the election even though he lost the election. This makes no sense.

josh

As to Russia, the report leaves no doubt: In 2020, as in 2016, “President Putin authorized, and a range of Russian government organizations conducted, influence operations” to help Trump and hurt his Democratic opponent. For example, “Shortly after the 2018 midterm elections, Russian intelligence cyber actors attempted to hack organizations primarily affiliated with the Democratic Party.” Then, in late 2019, Russia’s military intelligence service, the GRU, “conducted a phishing campaign against subsidiaries of Burisma holdings, likely in an attempt to gather information related to President Biden’s family.” Throughout the 2020 election, agents “connected to the Russian Federal Security Service,” FSB, planted negative stories about Biden. Internet operatives working for the Kremlin, including the troll farm that had boosted Trump in 2016, continued to promote “Trump and his commentary, including repeating his political messaging.”

Attacks on Biden and his son, Hunter, were part of this operation. Through “US officials and prominent US individuals, some of whom were close to former President Trump and his administration,” the report says Russia’s intelligence services “repeatedly spread unsubstantiated or misleading claims about President Biden and his family’s alleged wrongdoing related to Ukraine.” In this way, Trump’s circle “laundered” the Russian-planted stories, which were then recirculated—and promoted by Russia’s online proxies—as American news.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/03/trump-russian-asset-election-intelligence-community-report.html

NDPP

More yanqui crap concoctions.

JKR

More Russki reprehensible refutations?

kropotkin1951

"Donald Trump was a tool in a long-running Russian campaign to weaken the United States."

And you laugh at Republicans for believing the fake news about stolen eletions. LMAOROF  Is this a satire you are running Josh?

You are being played by the propaganda machine like a cheap fiddle. Some of the right notes but badly out of tune.

JKR

Trump is a tool, with or without his sordid connections to Russia.

melovesproles

It is all post-truth all the time now. Blue-anon, Q-anon, dueling conspiracy theories all the way down.

JKR

I think all the majour players, the US, China, EU, Russia, are bad guys using conspiracy theories and very sophisticated propaganda to the benefit of their respective elites. It's a phoney war where oligarch's around the world are laughing all the way to the bank.

melovesproles

JKR wrote:

I think all the majour players, the US, China, EU, Russia, are bad guys using conspiracy theories and very sophisticated propaganda to the benefit of their respective elites. It's a phoney war where oligarch's around the world are laughing all the way to the bank.

Agree.

I think that’s why it’s important to focus on one’s own respective elites. In “democratic” countries as much as in countries that pay less lip service to democracy the national level is the highest level public opinion has any influence on. We empower our elites when we let them tell us to focus our discontent on the elites of foreign countries. When the only way we have any hope of making the world more democratic is to disempower them.

I also think it makes it more difficult for elites in other countries when they can't point to hypocritical foreign governments attacking them and instead are surrounded by rising democratic movements.

JKR

I agree that we should deal with our issues before we criticize other countries. I think we should only criticize other countries through the United Nations. If we feel groups like the Uyghurs are being persecuted we can also offer asylum and immigration to some of them.

kropotkin1951

JKR wrote:

I agree that we should deal with our issues before we criticize other countries. I think we should only criticize other countries through the United Nations. If we feel groups like the Uyghurs are being persecuted we can also offer asylum and immigration to some of them.

I hope that we do not open our borders to the terrorists in Turkey who helped destroy Syria to start a theocracy where no one has rights.

josh

Sidney Powell has moved to dismiss Dominion's defamation lawsuit. She argues that when she accused Dominion of being part of an election-rigging scheme with ties to Venezuela, "no reasonable person would conclude" those "were truly statements of fact" https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20519858/3-22-21-sidney-powell-defending-the-republic-motion-to-dismiss-dominion.pdf

The Kraken is cracked.

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josh wrote:

Sidney Powell has moved to dismiss Dominion's defamation lawsuit. She argues that when she accused Dominion of being part of an election-rigging scheme with ties to Venezuela, "no reasonable person would conclude" those "were truly statements of fact" https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20519858/3-22-21-sidney-powell-defending-the-republic-motion-to-dismiss-dominion.pdf

The Kraken is cracked.

It worked for Tucker, it may work for Sidney.

JKR

josh wrote:

Sidney Powell has moved to dismiss Dominion's defamation lawsuit. She argues that when she accused Dominion of being part of an election-rigging scheme with ties to Venezuela, "no reasonable person would conclude" those "were truly statements of fact" https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20519858/3-22-21-sidney-powell-defending-the-republic-motion-to-dismiss-dominion.pdf

The Kraken is cracked.

Here on babble Sidney Powells's accusations against Dominion were presented as facts made by a reasonable person.

NDPP

The Q Lie: The Power-Grab After January 6th Was the Real Insurrection

https://thenationalpulse.com/analysis/the-q-lie-the-power-grab-response-...

"...The Q-defying truth is that 75 million (and counting) Americans have concluded that Washington's elites are inept. In truth, when viewed outside its Twitter-enforced orthodoxy, the real scandal of January 6th rises to irony: The federal government failed to protect the Capitol from an unruly mob that had assembled partly to protest the government's failure to perform its basic function capably. The Q-Lie is an excuse for politicians to grab power from the people. It is, to borrow an expression, a form of insurrection."

josh

Here on babble Sidney Powells's accusations against Dominion were presented as facts made by a reasonable person.

Those folks just move on to the next lie and solidarity with the right-wing.  About the author of the piece above:

Thomas J. Farnan is an attorney in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. His writing has appeared in Forbes and he is a regular contributor to Townhall.com and the Observer. 

kropotkin1951

This is what real democracy looks like.

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