The Afghan people will win - part 16

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Fidel

[url=http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/51/104.html]Afghanistan: A Forgotten Chapter[/url] By John Ryan, Canadian Dimension,
November/December 2001

That's a good short essay on what happened at the beginning of the 30 year-long US-led military and CIA involvement in Afghanistan. It's definitely not Charlie Wilson's or Hollywood's version of recent history of Afghanistan. [url=http://globetrotter.berkeley.edu/people2/Ahmed/ahmed-con0.html]Ahmed Khaled[/url] also provides a rundown of how the CIA and elites destroyed democracy in his country in order to wage anti-communist jihad in Afghanistan.  The goal was to destroy secular socialist thought in Central Asia and provide not only Pakistan with "strategic depth" in Afghanistan but the US, Britain, Saudi Arabia, etc was well. They brought in mercenaries from about 40 countries and created all of the Taliban and al-Qa'eda as a result. Karzai is a pro-Mujahideen stooge from the cold war era, and now he and his brother head-up the current US-backed narco-kleptocracy in Kabul.

Frmrsldr

Rand McNally wrote:

“The Afghan people will win”

I don’t have an answer on how the Afghanistan gets to a place were the people will win, but most of what this thread is about is simply picking a side in the civil war, not about the people winning. The people were not winning under the Taliban, they are not winning under the current government, and I am afraid they will not likely win under whatever exists post Western intervention.

What is Afghanistan and its relation to winning? Is it some kind of game?

In December 2001, former U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair stated, "For too long Afghanistan has been ignored. Afghanistan must not become a breeding ground for terrorists."

We could have accomplished that by helping Afghans, not waging war against them, murdering them, injuring them, destroying their country's economy, their countryside, their communities and their homes.

I don't see any condemnation of war.

In your opinion, how could we have helped the Afghans?

Through economic and humanitarian assistance?

Or if we had avoided/were to avoid certain mistakes in the prosecution of the war?

War is the cause of all the harm we are bringing to the Afghans and to ourselves.

We should never have chosen to wage war against Afghanistan.

NDPP

Taliban Buyout to Cost 'Hundreds of Millions'

http://news.antiwar.com/2010/01/25/london-conference-aims-to-establish-m...

"...Officials reportedly plan to announce a massive 'peace and reintegration trust fund' containing millions of dollars to pay off low and middle level Taliban fighters. The funds will come from the US, Britain and Japan.."

Taliban Talks

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/LA27Df02.html

"...efforts for reconciliation with the Taliban are also being stepped up. However, sources directly involved in backchannel negotiations with the Taliban tell Asia Times Online they are skeptical of the Taliban being reconciled as the militias scent victory in Afghanistan and hence are not prepared to show any flexibility in their demands, the key one of which is that all foreign troops leave Afghanistan..."

NDPP

IEA: Afghan Resistance Statement on the London Conference

http://www.scribd.com/doc/25947906/Statement-of-the-Leadership-Council-o...

"the invaders have no option but to put an end to the occupation of our country and soil.."

 

New US Finding: Two-Thirds of Taliban Not Extremists

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=117287&sectionid=351020601

The US special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan has claimed that more than two-thirds of the Taliban are not extremists.."

 

 

NDPP

Obama Ignores Key AFghan Warning

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24524.htm

"Nothing highlights President Barack Obama's abject surrender to General David Petraeus on 'the way forward' in AFghanistan more than two cables US Ambassador Karl Eikenberry sent to Washington on Nov 6, 9 2009"

NDPP

[Canada], Britain and the US Defeated in Afghanistan

http://maysaloon.blogspot.com/2010/01/britain-and-united-states-defeated...

"the Afghan war is ending, and whilst nobody will admit it, the Taliban have won..."

NATO's Role in the Afghanistan Escalation:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20100208/hayden

"The current 'talk about talks' runs counter to the neo-conservative espousal of the 'long war' doctrine, but there is no reason to believe that peace is at hand. Instead the Obama/Pentagon plan is for brutal conflict including an emphasis on drones and special operations for 18-24 months, in the belief that the Taliban can be pounded into accepting an American imposed peace settlement and to permit Karzai's Afghan army time to grow into an effective force..."

Frmrsldr

NoDifferencePartyPooper wrote:

"The current 'talk about talks' runs counter to the neo-conservative espousal of the 'long war' doctrine, but there is no reason to believe that peace is at hand. Instead the Obama/Pentagon plan is for brutal conflict including an emphasis on drones and special operations for 18-24 months, in the belief that the Taliban can be pounded into accepting an American imposed peace settlement and to permit Karzai's Afghan army time to grow into an effective force..."

This is the same policies of the Johnson and Nixon administrations hashed over again. With the same result: We will lose and Afghan nationals will win.

Fidel

Frmrsldr wrote:
NoDifferencePartyPooper wrote:

"The current 'talk about talks' runs counter to the neo-conservative espousal of the 'long war' doctrine, but there is no reason to believe that peace is at hand. Instead the Obama/Pentagon plan is for brutal conflict including an emphasis on drones and special operations for 18-24 months, in the belief that the Taliban can be pounded into accepting an American imposed peace settlement and to permit Karzai's Afghan army time to grow into an effective force..."

This is the same policies of the Johnson and Nixon administrations hashed over again. With the same result: We will lose and Afghan nationals will win.

 But will Pakistan's army intelligence still influence the Taliban after a peace agreement? And will the ISI continue to be an extension of the American CIA? Will the CIA and Saudis continue funding madrassas to the tune of billions of dollars to effect the destabilization of Asian countries? WIll the west's neoliberal policies continue destabilizing Pakistan and creating another Yugoslavia in the longer term?

[url=">http://www.glennsacks.com/us_policy_has.htm][i]"Are the sun and the moon the same thing?"[/url]

NDPP

The systematic destabilization will continue in the region. Watch for this 'talk about talks' to serve as cover for a renewed and ramped up killing by Psycho Stanley McChrystal et al. This final viscious phase will be sold as 'killing for peace' and necessary for a viable karzai government. This buy who you can and kill the rest won't work of course, but rivers of blood will flow before the empire pulls out.

Unionist

NoDifferencePartyPooper wrote:
Taliban Talks

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8488813.stm]Afghan Taliban deny peace talks with UN's Kai Eide[/url]

Quote:
A statement by the Islamist group's ruling council described the reports as "futile and baseless rumours".

Mr Eide himself denied a report that talks were held in Dubai on 8 January and refused to comment on other dates.

In other news from the same link, a precision NATO air strike successfully wiped out four Afghan puppet government soldiers near Kabul last night. Victory is nigh!!!

Unionist

More news of military victory from the front lines:

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8489131.stm]Interpreter shoots dead two U.S. soldiers in apparent dispute over pay and working conditions[/url]

Here in Québec, we usually start with work-to-rule and overtime bans.

 

 

NDPP

Terror Comes at Night in Afghanistan

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/LA30Df01.html

"Sometime in the past few years, Pashtun villagers in Afghanistan's rugged heartland began to lose faith in the American project.."

Fidel

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/29/taliban-afghanistan-mullah-m... Taliban leader ready to end phony al-Qaida(al-CIA'da) ties, says former trainer[/url]  Mullah Muhammad Omar 'a good man' and wants peace in Afghanistan, says Brigadier Sultan Amir Tarar

The Yanks are just as uninterested in capturing OBL now as before

Unionist

From Fidel's link:

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Speaking at his home in Rawalpindi, the 65-year-old downplayed the significance of reports that the head of the UN mission to Afghanistan, Kai Eide, met senior Taliban commanders in Dubai earlier this month for "talks about talks".

"The people who went over there didn't have any value. There were no hardcore people from Mullah Omar's shura," he said, citing refugees and "people coming from Afghanistan" as his sources.

Fidel

Yep, and according to Seymour Hersh, Sultan Amir Tarar (Colonel Imam) is good friends with Robert Gates and Charlie Wilson from their glory days as CIA's paid anticommunist jihadis in Central Asia.

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The Taliban leader in Afghanistan, Mullah Muhammad Omar, is ready to break with his al-Qaida allies in order to make peace in the country, according to the former Pakistani intelligence officer who trained him....Tarar was a key link between Pakistan intelligence and the Taliban when posted to Afghanistan in the 1990s. He was popular with Afghan militants for his enthusiastic embrace of their culture and his shared religious zeal. ... The ISI is likely to play a key role in any talks with the Taliban. A senior western official said the ISI's co-operation was vital – if not to aid negotiations, then at least to prevent the spy agency sabotaging them

I wonder how Afghans will feel about Pakistan's army intel, the CIA's cold war buddies in the ISI, playing go betweens for the theo-feudal Taliban and the Americans like old times?

al-Qa'eda = al-CIA'da

NDPP

US Drones Killed 123 Civilians, three Al Qaeda men, in January

http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=221847

Afghanistan based US Predators carried out a record number of 12 deadly missile strikes in the tribal areas of Pakistan.."

The war on Indigenous peoples begun in 1492 continues as 'The War on Terror'. If these were white people being killed it wouldn't be tolerated..

NDPP

Afghan 'Geological Resources Worth a Trillion Dollars'

http://commondreams.org/headline/2010/02/01-6

"Afghanistan, one of the poorest countries, is sitting on mineral and petroleum resources worth an estimated one trillion dollars, President Hamid Karzai said Sunday.."

NDPP

US Frame Up of Aafia Siddiqui Beginning to Unravel

http://wsws.org/articles/2010/feb2010/sidd-f01.shtml

"Pakistani neuroscientist Aafia Siddiqui went on trial in a US federal courtroom in New York City on January 19, charged wtih the attempted murder of US personnel in Afghanistan...The case against Dr. Siddiqui is rapidly unravelling due to lack of evidence and discordant testimony from witnesses...it is becoming increasingly evident that the charges amount to a frame up.."

Fidel

Grey lady of Bagram is a designated "al-CIA'da" bogey. They should all be lined up at dawn  without blindfolds or cigarettes.

NDPP

Taliban Take on the US Surge

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/LB03Df01.html

"Asia Times Online contacts claim that in an effort to get the dialogue process back on track, the US is considering the Taliban's demand on stopping the troop surge in Afghanistan, with the UAE, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan lined up to work out an arrangement that would keep the Taliban and al-Qaeda under control in any US exit plan.."

NDPP

Purpose of New Afghan Intelligence Agency (RAMA) is to Destabilize Pakistan - Ex ISI Chief

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2009/08/12/ex-isi-chief-says-purpose...

An excellent wide ranging interview from last year with  Pakistan Intelligence head

 

 

Unionist

[url=http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2010/02/201024102050255189.ht.... verdict sparks Pakistan protests[/url]

Quote:

Thousands of Pakistanis have staged rallies against the conviction of a Pakistani scientist found guilty of trying to kill American servicemen in Afghanistan.

Protests were held on Thursday in several cities in Pakistan, where many believe that Aafia Siddiqui is innocent.

The neuroscientist, branded "Lady Qaeda" by some in the US press, disappeared for five years before her arrest in Afghanistan in 2008.

She was convicted in a New York court on Wednesday.

Siddiqui, who was arrested in 2008, was accused of grabbing a US serviceman's rifle and opening fire on her American interrogators, who returned fire.

While none of the US agents or personnel were injured, Siddiqui was shot in the incident.

Unionist

[url=http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6150HC20100206]Afghan police kill seven boys collecting firewood[/url]

 

NDPP

 

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/feb2010/pers-f06.shtml

"At least 15,000 troops are expected to lay siege to the Helmand river valley town [ Marjah], which has 80,000 inhabitants and is said by the US military to be a stronghold of the Taliban.."

The Americans will MURDER Marjah like they did Fallujah.

Unionist

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8503841.stm]U.K. troop deaths in Afghanistan reach Falklands level[/url]

Unionist

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8503478.stm]Senior Afghan policeman held over planting roadside bombs[/url]

Quote:
Correspondents say policemen in Afghanistan are badly equipped and poorly paid.

... which no doubt explains why they don't use fancier weaponry.

 

PraetorianFour

Unionist wrote:

[url=http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6150HC20100206]Afghan police kill seven boys collecting firewood[/url]

 

Or the police wanted to cover up what they were doing to the boys.

NDPP

Canadian Foundation for 'Political Warfare':

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=50262

"Mark Neufeld, a professor in the Department of Political Studies at Trent University, said Canada's role as an 'occupier' in Afghanistan precludes it from promoting democracy there. 'You can argue the occupying and intervention legacy of Canada in Afghanistan means that it can never be a democracy promoter there. People will never trust us to be some kind of neutral purveyor of good governance when we've been there mainly propping up a government that's not democratic..'"

NDPP

Messy Afghan Withdrawal Could Cost 'Credits' in Washington

http://www.embassymag.ca/page/view/withdrawal-02-03-2010

"Briefing notes prepared for Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon upon his ascending to the job in October 2008 show a direct correlation between the Canadian mission in Afghanistan and currying favour in Washington for other interests...'

no surprise what else?

Frmrsldr

embassymag.ca wrote:

Instead, he [Lawrence Cannon] re-announced $25 million for counter-narcotics efforts. The money had originally been made public about six months ago under proactive disclosure as a contribution to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime for implementation of the Afghan National Drug Control Strategy.

What a sick joke this waste of money is. The Pentagon, the Defense Department and the arms industry (military-industrial complex) don't want the flow of opium (and its attendant flow of money) and the war to end:

Veterans Today wrote:

50 billion dollars in drugs and nobody sees anything. 50 billion dollars in drugs and more poppy fields are planted every day especially in US controlled areas. This kind of money buys intelligence agencies, military leaders, high ranking elected members of the US government and more influence in Afghansitan, Pakistan, India and Israel than anyone will ever admit. No matter what anyone does, the drug business will work to keep the war going and has the money and power to do exactly that.

http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2010/02/07/gordon-duff-dirty-little-secr...

NDPP

guns, drugs and money...

and pipelines..

and NATO..

and the bovine beneficiaries back home...

NDPP

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Frmrsldr

Gareth Porter wrote:

Evidence now available from various sources, including recently declassified U.S. State Department documents, shows that the Taliban regime led by Mullah Mohammed Omar imposed strict isolation on Osama bin Laden after 1998 to prevent him from carrying out any plots against the United States.

The evidence contradicts the claims by top officials of the Barack Obama administration that Mullah Omar was complicit in Osama bin Laden's involvement in the al-Qaeda plot to carry out the terrorist attacks in the United States on Sep. 11, 2001. It also bolsters the credibility of Taliban statements in recent months asserting that it has no interest in al-Qaeda's global jihadist aims.

http://original.antiwar.com/porter/2010/02/11/taliban-regime-pressed-bin...

 

NDPP

Taliban Regime Pressed Bin Laden on Anti- US Terror

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24655.htm

"Mullah Omar's willingness to allow bin Laden to remain in Afghanistan was conditional from the beginning according to al-Masri's account, on two prohibitions on his activities; bin Laden was forbidden to talk to the media without the consent of the Taliban regime or to make plans to attack US targets.."

NDPP

Afghan Resistance (Taliban) Statement on the 20th Anniversary of the Flight of Soviet Forces from Afghanistan

http://www.eurasiareview.com/2010/02/31791-taliban-statement-on-20th.html

"Twenty years ago on 15.2.1989, the Red Army of the former Soviet Union fled our country with disgrace and failure after a passage of ten years from their invasion, terror and showdown..

during this ten years, the Red Army and their internal surrogates - martyred more than 1.5 Million Afghans; forced 6 Million others to take refuge and wounded or detained hundreds of thousands...

The American and NATO rulers should know, if they need 15 thousand well-armed troops to take only one district, there are 350 districts in Afghanistan - they would need 5,250,000 more troops to take them.."

Frmrsldr

Nick Grono and Candace Rondeaux wrote:

One of the warlords who may soon star in the new US efforts to rebrand fundamentalists as potential government partners is Gulbuddin Hekmetyar, a brutal Afghan insurgent commander responsible for dozens of deadly attacks on coalition troops. As a mujahedeen commander during the civil war in the 1990s, Hekmatyar turned his guns on Kabul, slaughtering many thousands of Afghans, with his militias raping and maiming thousands more.

http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2010/01/17/dealing-with-brutal-afghan-wa...

[Edited to correct faulty link]

Frmrsldr

Frmrsldr wrote:

The two sources of information are Afghan witnesses and NATO.

Who are you going to believe?

PraetorianFour wrote:

Frmrsldr, who do YOU believe? Can you put your hand over your heart and say yes I believe US Soldiers dragged Afghanistan children out of their bed and exicuted them?

UPDATE

Nato admits that deaths of 8 boys were a mistake.

timesonline wrote:

At the time, Nato claimed that the assault force was targeting a "known insurgent group responsible for a series of violent attacks". Officials said that the victims were involved in making and smuggling improvised devices. But Western sources close to the case now agree that the victims were all aged 12 to 18 and were not involved in insurgent activity.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/afghanistan/article7040166.ece

NDPP

Travers: Did We Turn a Blind Eye to Afghan Prisoners?

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/afghanmission/article/771199--travers...

"What distinguishes the special forces from the broader Afghan mission are its cutting edge skills, the high value of its targets and an ultra-secretive need to know command structure. Unlike the bulk of Canada's troops fighting under the NATO umbrella, JTF2 has long been associated with the US led Operation Enduring Freedom.

As a source familiar with its work put it this week, the force works side by side with the US 'to pick up or pick off' top Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders.."

NDPP

Britain's Military Chiefs Say More Troops Needed in Afghanistan

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17805

"Army chiefs insist that thousands more soldiers need to be recruited if Britain is to continue fighting in operations such as Afghanistan.."

Frmrsldr

"They [U.S. troops] control one stretch of road (at Kalagush [Nuristan province]) for a few miles up and down, and that's it. If they make a foray further, they get their teeth kicked in."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100304/wl_asia_afp/afghanistanunrestsociet...

Frmrsldr

PraetorianFour wrote:
Frmrsldr wrote:

The two sources of information are Afghan witnesses and NATO.

Who are you going to believe?

Frmrsldr, who do YOU believe? Can you put your hand over your heart and say yes I believe US Soldiers dragged Afghanistan children out of their bed and exicuted them? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,576646,00.html 3 US navy seals are being court marshaled currently. They captured a high ranking Taliban [Or Al quaida, i don't even know. Objective Amber] and after he was in custody they roughed him up. Someone punched him in the face and gave him a fat or bloody lip. That's the extent of damage this man is claiming. No broken nose, crushed fingers, hulimiation like in that US tourture prison. He was given a fat lip. His lawyer complained that they broke the geneva convention, commited a war crime and now 4 of the US's top "assassins" are being court marshaled. The government is willing to drag it's special forces community through the mud over a fat lip yet you're telling me that 8 children were dragged from their bed and murdered and it's going to get swept under the rug?

Jason Ditz wrote:

... Questions still remain, however, as NATO"s official story is that the killers were "non-military Americans" who were engaged in a NATO sanctioned operation, and Karzai's government has carefully dodged questions about who the attackers were and whether they would be held to any sort of account.

http://news.antiwar.com/2010/03/07/karzai-to-pay-families-after-natos-de...

"Non-military Americans" can mean one of two things: Either CIA or private security contractors (mercenaries). Given that the forces arrived by helicopter in the early morning hours a few kms away and then walked to the village and that they were aparently acting on intelligence, would suggest the CIA (it's more their modus operandae) over private contractors.

NDPP

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Frmrsldr

Top General admits U.S. helped ISI create extremists.

General David Petraeus, Commander of the U.S. Central Command on a PBS Charlie Rose interview:

(transcript from) PBS The Charlie Rose Show wrote:

"But, again, look, we have a chequered past with Pakistan, and we need to be up front about it and recognise it. We've walked away from that country three times, including after Charlie Wilson's war after we established the Mujahideen," he said.

"Our money, Saudi money, others joined together, helped the ISI, indeed, form these elements which then went in and threw the Soviets out of Afghanistan with our weaponry. And then we left and they were holding the bag," he said, acknowledging that it was the US which helped the ISI to form these extremist elements.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=27658

Well, there you have it. Even General David Petraeus publicly admits that the U.S. helped form the mujahideen. Fidel was right all along.

Fidel

Ahhem, yes, I was right along!! Thanks FrmrSldr. And some babblers have criticized me for droning on about General Zia of the 1970's-80's. But here is a tid-bit from antifascist-calling.blogspot.com mentions a not-so remote connection between CIA-ISI anticommunist jihadis of the 1980's and two infamous masterminds of WTC bombing of 1993 and 9/11 terror.

[url=http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/South_Asia/Swat_Pakistan_Chaos_CIA.htm... Jihadi "Frankenstein" Sows Chaos, Reaps Death[/url] [in Pakistan's Swat Valley]

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Though allegedly on the outs with the clericalists, Musharraf was a staunch supporter of the Army's policy of fielding "irregular forces" comprised of far-right thugs such as Lashkar or the virulently anti-Shia communalist group Sipah-e-Sahaba (SSP) to carry out "plausibly deniable" strikes against India or internal left-wing political opponents.

Originally founded in 1985 at the behest of dictator General Zia ul-Haq to liquidate secular and leftist forces opposed to his moves to "Islamize" Pakistani society with the blessings of the CIA, the SSP was "banned" in 2002 but quickly regrouped under the banner of Millat-e-Islamia. Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993 was an SSP member as was his uncle, the al-Qaeda operative and alleged architect of the 9/11 attack, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

I think Canadian Peter Dale Scott is right when he writes about deep state events. I think these various groups are connected to their governments in some way. morphing into new terror cells for short-term terror goals, and all operating on the principle of 'plausible deniability.' Like Central Banks are supposed to operate at arm's length from government influence, these clandestine terror groups operate by the same principle to extremes. If anything goes wrong and there are questions asked, no one knows enough to convict anyone else of wrong doing and especially not the cosmetic leadership. I think Roman era coup d'etats were carried out with similar cunning.

Myself I think false flag terror operations were never really abandoned by NATO countries or their client states. I think it's ongoing and pulled from their dirty bag of tricks whenever democracy threatens them or their client state rulers.

NDPP

Contours of the US-Taliban Peace Deal:

http://canada.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/72199

"US politics revolve around grabbing others' resources - peacefully if they may, forcibly if they must. In Afghanistan's case, force has failed to achieve the desired result so Uncle Same, an ill-mannered and uncouth operator, is about to put on the charm offensive all over again, for oil and gas to save his thick hide.."

NDPP

Iran Leader Says US is playing 'double game' in Afghanistan figting militants it once backed

http://wire.antiwar.com/010/03/10/iran-leader-us-playing-game-in-afghani...

"Iran calls the accusation by Gates part of a broad anti-Iranian campaign by the US and says it makes no sense that IRan's Shiite led government would help the fundamentalist Sunni movement of the Taliban. 'I believe that they themselves who are now fighting militants in Afghanistan, are playing a double game', said Ahmadinejad. 'They themselves created terrorists and now today they're saying that they are fighting terrorists.."

NDPP

A Titanic Power Struggle in Kabul

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/LC13Df02.html

"The flurry of diplomatic acticity in Kabul during the past week heralded the opening shots of a titanic power struggle, the outcome of which will largely determine the contours of an Afghan settlement.."

An Angry Woman by Malalai Joya

http://www.countercurrents.org/joya110310.htm

"The aim of the war was never to create democracy and justice nor to uproot the terrorist groups. The war's only purpose has been to perpetuate the occupation, install military bases and safeguard the takeover of a region that has substantial natural resources. Obama is just like Bush, if not worse because he is escalating the war and brining it to Pakistan..

Stop the massacres in my country. Withdraw your foreign troops so that we can stop Talibanization"

NDPP

Afghanistan: NATO Covers Up Killing Pregnant Women

http://news.scotsman.com/world/NATO-accused-of-cover-.6149210.jp

"The survivors of a night raid in eastern Afghanistan in which five people, including two pregnant women died have accused NATO of trying to cover up the atrocity.."

NDPP

Surging Over the Brink

http://sites.google.com/site/weeklyahramorgeg/opinion/surging-over-the-b...

"The West celebrated the mujahideen's victory over the Soviets. The same people, fighting under a different name, have now pushed the US into a costly stalemate. Will the US prolong this stalemate and push Pakistan too over the brink? Or will it accept the fait accompli the Taliban have created for them, accept its losses, and save itself from greater embarrassment in the future.."

Censorship in Afghanistan: Death to Journalists

http://kabulpress.org/my/spip.php?article4789

"As dozens of governments around the world pour billions of dollars and 100,000 + troops into Afghanistan to defend the Karzai govenrment, it is an appropriate time to explore the human rights and legal issues regarding censorship and freedom of the press there.."

Fidel

[url=http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/031310a.html]30 Years of US Mistakes in Afghanistan[/url]

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About one in 10 Afghans is disabled, mostly due to the wars and landmines. An Afghan’s life expectancy is about 43 years. There are reportedly about 400,000 orphans.

Many Americans explain this internal strife in Afghanistan by saying that “they have always been fighting among themselves.” But the truth is that United States contributed to the past three decades of warfare, a process that continues to this day with U.S. ordnance claiming the lives of Afghan civilians as the “collateral damage” of American attacks on the Taliban.

Clearly, Afghanistan is in desperate need of economic development, health care and educational assistance – not more killing.

When U.S. officials talk about their desire for nation-building in Afghanistan, they neglect to mention that in the eyes of many Afghans, Washington has done just the opposite.

Naomi Klein wrote about "the mistakes" in general that it's time to consider that they are not mistakes at all.

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