American Mid-Term Elections Part 2

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George Victor

Thanks for the Bellamy find. But I'm sure the average Teapartier would be there first with the torch, looking to burn any evidence of a self-professed "socialist's" involvement with the pledge or anything else on the alter of liberty.

Stargazer

Scary thought George, but that is exactly what they will and want to do. "Take Back America" is code for "I want to live in the pre-Civil Rights era, when white people ruled, women didn't vote and those pesky foreigners were contained better."

 

I'm reading Chris Hedges book The Christian Right and it isn't anything new but it is a good read.

 

 

Sven Sven's picture

Stargazer wrote:

"Take Back America" is code for "I want to live in the pre-Civil Rights era, when white people ruled, women didn't vote and those pesky foreigners were contained better." 

That's a great caricature, Stargazer.  But, why stop at the "pre-Civil Rights era"?  Why not go all the way back to the Stone Age?  That would completely separate your image from reality.  Why do a half-assed job by stopping at the "pre-Civil Rights era"?

I mean, if you want to create a clownish image, don't forget the big red nose, the oversized shoes, and the green hair.

George Victor

Sven wrote:

Stargazer wrote:

"Take Back America" is code for "I want to live in the pre-Civil Rights era, when white people ruled, women didn't vote and those pesky foreigners were contained better." 

That's a great caricature, Stargazer.  But, why stop at the "pre-Civil Rights era"?  Why not go all the way back to the Stone Age?  That would completely separate your image from reality.  Why do a half-assed job by stopping at the "pre-Civil Rights era"?

I mean, if you want to create a clownish image, don't forget the big red nose, the oversized shoes, and the green hair.

 

But the stone age should suit your average Libertarian to a T.  No guvmint a tall.    And that's where the New Republican dominated state legislatures  are headed.  No caricature. There's more of them than at any time since 1930.

Be proud, Sven.

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George Victor wrote:

But the stone age should suit your average Libertarian to a T.

Now we're getting somewhere!!  Not only has George properly attired the clown, he's remembered to equip the clown with a water-squirting flower and a squeaky horn!

DaveW

Sven wrote:

Stargazer wrote:

"Take Back America" is code for "I want to live in the pre-Civil Rights era, when white people ruled, women didn't vote and those pesky foreigners were contained better." 

That's a great caricature, Stargazer.  But, why stop at the "pre-Civil Rights era"?  Why not go all the way back to the Stone Age?  That would completely separate your image from reality.  Why do a half-assed job by stopping at the "pre-Civil Rights era"?

I mean, if you want to create a clownish image, don't forget the big red nose, the oversized shoes, and the green hair.

Sven is right, that is a fairly crude caricature.

One of the oldest adages of political or other combat is: know your enemy. Drawing  a cartoon when a precise image is needed does not help.

ygtbk

On a serious note, I've pointed out before that libertarianism is not the same as anarchism. Libertarians are in favour of small government, not no government. And some people posting on this thread might have more in common with libertarians than they might think.

Back to the custard pies!

Lard Tunderin Jeezus Lard Tunderin Jeezus's picture

DaveW wrote:

Sven is right, that is a fairly crude caricature.

Indeed; Sven is so very right that it is difficult to understand why he is tolerated here.

al-Qa'bong

Because we're open-minded and welcome discussion?

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The discussion which he more often derails than engages in?

Bec.De.Corbin Bec.De.Corbin's picture

 

While the Repubs are talking about repealing this and that, taking us back to whatever age, at least that BS won't get through the Senate or the president's desk. The sad thing is this means congress is going to spend allot of energy this next two years doing nothing constructive.

 

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Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

While the Repubs are talking about repealing this and that, taking us back to whatever age, at least that BS won't get through the Senate or the president's desk.

That's why the 2012 election will be key.  If the political environment in 2012 will be anything like it is today, then the Dems will almost certainly lose control of the Senate (they have 21 seats to protect in 2012) and O would be at serious risk of being tossed from office.  If that were to transpire, then "repealing this and that" may become a reality.

The next two years will be interesting.

Stargazer

Aw Sven, resorting to calling arguments caricatures. Too bad what I posted was true Sven. Face it, your country and it's political system is a fucking joke.

I must have hit a nerve. Funny Sven because the only one drinking the koolaid is you. Nice try at a jab but Sven you lose, and you will always lose because the truth hurts and you just can't face it. Or are you going to tell us that those crazies in your country don't want to go back to the pre Civil Rights era and would love nothing better to go back to the good ol' Jim Crow days? Please do fill us in Sven, are they lying? Are the rights darlings all lying? They really really do love black people, women and labour?

 

Fairly crude caricature? Really? I think not.

 

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Stargazer wrote:

Aw Sven, resorting to calling arguments caricatures. 

When an assertion is merely composed of unadulterated hyperbole, it's fair to label it a caricature.

Lard Tunderin Jeezus Lard Tunderin Jeezus's picture

Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

While the Repubs are talking about repealing this and that, taking us back to whatever age, at least that BS won't get through the Senate or the president's desk. The sad thing is this means congress is going to spend allot of energy this next two years doing nothing constructive.

True nationally, but much damage will be done in several State legislatures in the meantime.

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Lard Tunderin Jeezus wrote:

True nationally, but much damage will be done in several State legislatures in the meantime.

In 1994, the year the Republicans took control of the U.S. House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years by winning 52 Democratic House seats, the Republicans flipped about 200 state legislative seats from the Dems to the Repubs.  In 2010, the Republicans took 680 state legislative seats from the Dems (in my state of Minnesota, the state legislature is now controlled by the Republicans -- and that is the first time they've had control of the legislature since the early 1970s!).  What has happened at the state level is the portion of the 2010 election story that is being missed, with all of the media focus on the national legislature.

josh

There has been a good deal of media focus on it.  A lot the reason is that Democrats gained a lot in the state legislatures the last two elections and, unlike in '94, Republicans are becoming more entrenched at the state level in the old confederate states.

As for "I want to take my country back," take it back from whom?   To answer that is to answer their motivation.

Which, in part, relates to the fact that Republican success was almost exclusively due to the old farts, many of whom remember the good old days when the black and brown were neither seen nor heard.

 

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/44802.html

 

 

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