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kropotkin1951

Thx for this pic epaulo. I am very happy to see hundreds of thousands of people protesting peacefully. My problem with Hong Kong has always been the violent goons in the street. My reading of history says that change caused by violence seldom leads to better outcomes for people, only a change in the rulers.

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..i thought you had it right krop when you separated what was going on in hong kong. when you talked about the right in the streets. there will also be provocateurs. external influences. and the media focus is always to inflate the violence. to divide people.

..this struggle began as a peaceful majority and will continue to be that no matter the optics. this struggle has it's unique history but is not different then the other uprisings happening around the globe these days. imho.   

NDPP

"...Behind the backs of the population, the Liberal government has integrated Canada in the US offensive against China. The Canadian military has declared the Malacca Strait of vital strategic importance to Canada, and it routinely deploys shops to the Asian-Pacific to assert the unbridled 'right'of the US and its allies to maintain an Armada off China's coast.

With the seizure and detention of Huawei's CFO, Meng Wanzhou, at Washington's behest, Canada's Liberal government has played a major role in the US attack on China's most important tech company, which is part of a much larger US drive to thwart China's emergence as a global force in new technologies.

Like the NDP's vote to prop up the Liberal government, it's lining up behind the Conservatives' efforts to align Canada ever more fully with Washington's anti-China drive is not surprising. While the NDP occasionally postures as anti-war, in reality it and all the other parliamentary parties stand on the 'common ground' of Canadian imperialism and militarism..."

NDP Props Up Trudeau, Joins Conservatives in Demanding Tougher Anti-China Stance

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/12/14/ndpp-d14.html

NDPP

WATCH: The 'Unarmed and Peaceful' Hong Kong Protesters (and vid)

https://twitter.com/liamstone_19/status/1205569728497909760

NDPP

WATCH: "In latest pro-colonial demonstration of Hong Kong protesters, hundreds rally outside British Consulate urging UK to 'regain sovereignty over Hong Kong.' This is a right-wing movement that views Donald Trump, Boris Johnson and Winston Churchill as 'liberators'.

https://twitter.com/ajitxsingh/status/1205286113918763010

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Redefining mental health amid collective trauma

Hong Kong society has been undergoing an incredible upheaval and transformation since the million-strong protests in June against the extradition bill, and few residents of the city have been left untouched by the frequent protests, tear gas in every district of Hong Kong, violent clashes with police and brutal scenes of crackdown. Although the movement has united groups ranging widely in age, class, ethnicity, politics and religion, it has also introduced generational conflict into many families with the polarisation of society into a large supportive majority and an older minority in opposition. Given the government’s continued use of the police to repress social dissent and denial of a political resolution, despite overwhelming defeat in the recent District Council elections, there is no end in sight to the conflict.

Inevitably, social movements and upheavals of such widespread scale and impact trigger powerful emotions, particularly for supporters of the movement who face institutional oppression and police brutality. Fear, anxiety, rage, helplessness, and despair are completely natural responses to the collapse in trust in our institutions to ensure personal safety and deliver justice; those who are resisting anonymously on the front lines, with very real risks of injury and arrest and often without their families’ support, are especially vulnerable because of their exposure to traumatising situations.

Collective trauma

It is not an understatement to term what Hong Kongers are experiencing “collective trauma”—traumatic events that are directed at and affect whole groups and communities. More than diagnostic labels of depression, anxiety, or post-traumatic stress disorder, “collective trauma” highlights the inextricable link between state violence, sociopolitical oppression, and the psychological wounds they cause. Importantly, by defining the wound as one that is inflicted by the system onto a community, it allows us to connect to others who are similarly situated in solidarity and opens up the possibility of imagining collective solutions for healing.

Throughout the anti-extradition protests, old paradigms have been discarded and new ways of working together have revolutionised and vitalised the movement. Inspired by ideas such as “we all climb the hill, each in our own way,” “not cutting the mat,” “be water,” and through a leaderless/leaderful model, “the revolution of our times” has generated impressive demonstrations of mutual aid and solidarity between radicals and pacifists, old and young, and across numerous occupations—lawyers, construction workers, medics, social workers, housewives, teachers, financial professionals, etc. Critically, it has also triggered a rethinking within professions of their complicity with oppressive and dehumanising structures. The government has weaponised the legalmedical, and social care systems against protesters, engendering an emergent resistance—“activist” organisations of doctorspsychologists and social workers, dating from the Umbrella Movement, are an indispensable presence on the front lines, in underground clinics and Telegram counselling services, and mobilise to contest the official discourse from the government. A rallying cry of social workers exhorts, “Don’t become tools for ‘maintaining stability’!”

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Throughout the anti-extradition protests, old paradigms have been discarded and new ways of working together have revolutionised and vitalised the movement. Inspired by ideas such as “we all climb the hill, each in our own way,” “not cutting the mat,” “be water,” and through a leaderless/leaderful model, “the revolution of our times” has generated impressive demonstrations of mutual aid and solidarity between radicals and pacifists, old and young, and across numerous occupations—lawyers, construction workers, medics, social workers, housewives, teachers, financial professionals, etc. Critically, it has also triggered a rethinking within professions of their complicity with oppressive and dehumanising structures. The government has weaponised the legalmedical, and social care systems against protesters, engendering an emergent resistance—“activist” organisations of doctorspsychologists and social workers, dating from the Umbrella Movement, are an indispensable presence on the front lines, in underground clinics and Telegram counselling services, and mobilise to contest the official discourse from the government. A rallying cry of social workers exhorts, “Don’t become tools for ‘maintaining stability’!”

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Mental “health” and “disorder” have always been socially defined, closely tied to what is considered “normal” behaviour by the powerful, as the histories of homosexualitygendered and racialised diagnoses amply illustrate. How can we begin to understand what “mental health” means when the threat of injury and arrest is ever-present and the social fabric is rent apart? How do we even define “normality” under such extreme conditions? The liberation psychologist Martín-Baró writes, “reacting to such [collective traumatisation] with uncontrollable anxiety or with some form of autism must be considered a normal reaction to abnormal circumstances, perhaps the only way a person can cling to life and withstand such a suffocating knot of social relations.” The state of student protesters at PolyU after a week of police siege serves as a disturbing echo of this. It is within such “limit situations” that the inadequacy of seeing human distress as individualised illness becomes clear.

More insidiously, by placing the pathology in individuals, the oppressive structures—state violence, human rights abuses, extreme inequality and poor living conditions, Hong Kong’s bleak future—that are causing such despair and anxiety in so many of us disappear from view, to be replaced by the double whammy of a responsibility on the person to somehow “fix themselves” through seeking help from doctors, taking medication, practicing self-care, avoiding the news; as well as the intense social stigma attached to the label of being “mentally ill.” This individualised definition of “mental health”—essentially, to be “functional” and content within a distorted and traumatising society—alienates us from others who are suffering in the same position. The stigma turns us inward in shame, and towards individualised solutions of pills and counselling that struggle to meaningfully explain our suffering.

If mental health workers are to commit themselves to justice, collective healing, and addressing the real needs of the people they serve, they must confront their own professions’ ideological allegiance to the established order and resist becoming tools of the state by uncritically propagating such discourses to the people they support. And once we reorient our collective understanding of mental health to be social as well as political, it becomes clear that any “cure” must address not only the symptoms that manifest in individual suffering, but the root causes of structural dehumanisation and social injustice.

NDPP

"Uyghur  jihadist org Turkistan Islamic Party released propaganda footage from June this year in Idlib Syria titled 'We Are Ready'. They are now fighting alongside their Al Qaeda  ally HTS against Syrian Arab Army." (and vid)

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1210731410895458310

 

China Detaining Millions of Uyghurs? Serious Problems With Claims...(and vid)

https://twitter.com/TheGrayZoneNews/status/1209686971532087297

"Claims that China has detained millions of Uyghur Muslims are based largely on two studies. A closer look at these papers reveals the US government backing, absurdly shoddy methodologies and a rapture-ready evangelical researcher named Adrian Zenz..."

NDPP

Debunking Hong-Kong 'Protesters' Lies, Spin & Propaganda

https://twitter.com/Anonylyzer13/status/1213091321683906560

"Just how u imagined it? Take that Tyranny!'

 

Sean in Ottawa

NDPP wrote:

Debunking Hong-Kong 'Protesters' Lies, Spin & Propaganda

https://twitter.com/Anonylyzer13/status/1213091321683906560

"Just how u imagined it? Take that Tyranny!'

 

I think it is insulting to suggest that acts like this are the fault or the desire of the hundreds of thousands of protestors. To make this connection is in itself propaganda. Something to remember on all sides of all conflicts - acts by individuals are not the responsibility of the whole if they are not the leadership. Who is the leader here anyway?

kropotkin1951

It would do everyone well to remember that the latest election showed that Hong Kong people are almost evenly split between anti-government and pro-government supporters. Pointing out the assholes on either side is acceptable without having to say that not all Chinese people are assholes.

Sean in Ottawa

kropotkin1951 wrote:

It would do everyone well to remember that the latest election showed that Hong Kong people are almost evenly split between anti-government and pro-government supporters. Pointing out the assholes on either side is acceptable without having to say that not all Chinese people are assholes.

Nobody is but there is a stream here implying that the protests are not legitimate.

kropotkin1951

Sorry I am not sure of the stream you mean. All the streams seem to have vigorous debate, not one viewpoint.

NDPP

Huawei Technology Poses No Threat To UK Security - Ex-MI5 Head

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1216666402465042438

"Andrew Parker insists Chinese manufactured 5G input is safe, contrary to claims of US lobbyists."

 

CGTN Exclusive: Where Are Those 'Demolished' Uyghyur Graves in Xinjiang?

https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1217248002156453889

"CGTN reporters went to Xinjiang and found that the government built a new, modern cemetery at the same site so graves won't be destroyed by flooding and wind..."

NDPP

Danny Haiphong: My Trip To China Exposed the Shameful Lies Peddled By The American Empire

https://www.blackagendareport.com/my-trip-china-exposed-shameful-lies-pe...

"...There is a broad consensus between the [North] American ruling class and the so-called [North] American left about China. The consensus position is that China is a tyrannical, oppressive and politically backward dictatorship. Fear of a globalized Yellow Peril often emerges whenever China becomes a political conversation in [North] America. My two weeks spent in the People's Republic of China with the China-US Solidarity Network's Silk Road delegation, led by Lee Siu Hin and former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, did not merely seek to challenge the many lies that the American Empire tells about the rising power in the East. The trip exposed the lies of the American Empire with a heavy dose of truth about actual conditions that exist for the people of China.

The importance of this trip cannot be underestimated given the US' ever increasing imperial aggression toward China. In fact, China has been labeled by the Trump administration's National Security Strategy document as the greatest threat to US imperial interests alongside Russia. US imperial aggression toward Iran, Syria or anywhere else in the Global South cannot be divorced from the Empire's larger strategic goal of overturning the People's Republic of China. The truth is that peace-loving people in the US would love China were it not for the plethora of racist, imperialist lies that have been programmed into the minds of Westerners. None of the Empire's lies held up in my travels from Beijing to Xian, then to Dunhuong to Urumqi - known as the capital of Xinjiang, Uyghur Autonomous Region.

I didn't see concentration camps for Uyghurs in Xinjiang. In fact it is difficult to walk more than a mile without running into a Mosque. Every street sign in the city is translated in both Mandarin and Uyghur languages. Security is more plentiful in Urumqi than in Beijing or X'ian and for good reason. Most Westerners are unaware that Xinjiang Province is the site of numerous terror attacks that have taken the lives of hundreds of people. As recently as 2014, the foreign-backed terrorist organization East Turkistan Islamic Movement (ETM) committed several attacks in Urumqi, killing dozens and injuring hundreds more. It is important to note that the founder of the broader Uyghur independence movement, Anwar Yusef Turani, operates his 'government in exile' in Washington DC and that the World Uyghur Congress is funded heavily by the National Endowment for Democracy, a virtual branch of the CIA..."