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kropotkin1951

Thx for this pic epaulo. I am very happy to see hundreds of thousands of people protesting peacefully. My problem with Hong Kong has always been the violent goons in the street. My reading of history says that change caused by violence seldom leads to better outcomes for people, only a change in the rulers.

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..i thought you had it right krop when you separated what was going on in hong kong. when you talked about the right in the streets. there will also be provocateurs. external influences. and the media focus is always to inflate the violence. to divide people.

..this struggle began as a peaceful majority and will continue to be that no matter the optics. this struggle has it's unique history but is not different then the other uprisings happening around the globe these days. imho.   

NDPP

"...Behind the backs of the population, the Liberal government has integrated Canada in the US offensive against China. The Canadian military has declared the Malacca Strait of vital strategic importance to Canada, and it routinely deploys shops to the Asian-Pacific to assert the unbridled 'right'of the US and its allies to maintain an Armada off China's coast.

With the seizure and detention of Huawei's CFO, Meng Wanzhou, at Washington's behest, Canada's Liberal government has played a major role in the US attack on China's most important tech company, which is part of a much larger US drive to thwart China's emergence as a global force in new technologies.

Like the NDP's vote to prop up the Liberal government, it's lining up behind the Conservatives' efforts to align Canada ever more fully with Washington's anti-China drive is not surprising. While the NDP occasionally postures as anti-war, in reality it and all the other parliamentary parties stand on the 'common ground' of Canadian imperialism and militarism..."

NDP Props Up Trudeau, Joins Conservatives in Demanding Tougher Anti-China Stance

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/12/14/ndpp-d14.html

NDPP

WATCH: The 'Unarmed and Peaceful' Hong Kong Protesters (and vid)

https://twitter.com/liamstone_19/status/1205569728497909760

NDPP

WATCH: "In latest pro-colonial demonstration of Hong Kong protesters, hundreds rally outside British Consulate urging UK to 'regain sovereignty over Hong Kong.' This is a right-wing movement that views Donald Trump, Boris Johnson and Winston Churchill as 'liberators'.

https://twitter.com/ajitxsingh/status/1205286113918763010

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Redefining mental health amid collective trauma

Hong Kong society has been undergoing an incredible upheaval and transformation since the million-strong protests in June against the extradition bill, and few residents of the city have been left untouched by the frequent protests, tear gas in every district of Hong Kong, violent clashes with police and brutal scenes of crackdown. Although the movement has united groups ranging widely in age, class, ethnicity, politics and religion, it has also introduced generational conflict into many families with the polarisation of society into a large supportive majority and an older minority in opposition. Given the government’s continued use of the police to repress social dissent and denial of a political resolution, despite overwhelming defeat in the recent District Council elections, there is no end in sight to the conflict.

Inevitably, social movements and upheavals of such widespread scale and impact trigger powerful emotions, particularly for supporters of the movement who face institutional oppression and police brutality. Fear, anxiety, rage, helplessness, and despair are completely natural responses to the collapse in trust in our institutions to ensure personal safety and deliver justice; those who are resisting anonymously on the front lines, with very real risks of injury and arrest and often without their families’ support, are especially vulnerable because of their exposure to traumatising situations.

Collective trauma

It is not an understatement to term what Hong Kongers are experiencing “collective trauma”—traumatic events that are directed at and affect whole groups and communities. More than diagnostic labels of depression, anxiety, or post-traumatic stress disorder, “collective trauma” highlights the inextricable link between state violence, sociopolitical oppression, and the psychological wounds they cause. Importantly, by defining the wound as one that is inflicted by the system onto a community, it allows us to connect to others who are similarly situated in solidarity and opens up the possibility of imagining collective solutions for healing.

Throughout the anti-extradition protests, old paradigms have been discarded and new ways of working together have revolutionised and vitalised the movement. Inspired by ideas such as “we all climb the hill, each in our own way,” “not cutting the mat,” “be water,” and through a leaderless/leaderful model, “the revolution of our times” has generated impressive demonstrations of mutual aid and solidarity between radicals and pacifists, old and young, and across numerous occupations—lawyers, construction workers, medics, social workers, housewives, teachers, financial professionals, etc. Critically, it has also triggered a rethinking within professions of their complicity with oppressive and dehumanising structures. The government has weaponised the legalmedical, and social care systems against protesters, engendering an emergent resistance—“activist” organisations of doctorspsychologists and social workers, dating from the Umbrella Movement, are an indispensable presence on the front lines, in underground clinics and Telegram counselling services, and mobilise to contest the official discourse from the government. A rallying cry of social workers exhorts, “Don’t become tools for ‘maintaining stability’!”

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Throughout the anti-extradition protests, old paradigms have been discarded and new ways of working together have revolutionised and vitalised the movement. Inspired by ideas such as “we all climb the hill, each in our own way,” “not cutting the mat,” “be water,” and through a leaderless/leaderful model, “the revolution of our times” has generated impressive demonstrations of mutual aid and solidarity between radicals and pacifists, old and young, and across numerous occupations—lawyers, construction workers, medics, social workers, housewives, teachers, financial professionals, etc. Critically, it has also triggered a rethinking within professions of their complicity with oppressive and dehumanising structures. The government has weaponised the legalmedical, and social care systems against protesters, engendering an emergent resistance—“activist” organisations of doctorspsychologists and social workers, dating from the Umbrella Movement, are an indispensable presence on the front lines, in underground clinics and Telegram counselling services, and mobilise to contest the official discourse from the government. A rallying cry of social workers exhorts, “Don’t become tools for ‘maintaining stability’!”

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Mental “health” and “disorder” have always been socially defined, closely tied to what is considered “normal” behaviour by the powerful, as the histories of homosexualitygendered and racialised diagnoses amply illustrate. How can we begin to understand what “mental health” means when the threat of injury and arrest is ever-present and the social fabric is rent apart? How do we even define “normality” under such extreme conditions? The liberation psychologist Martín-Baró writes, “reacting to such [collective traumatisation] with uncontrollable anxiety or with some form of autism must be considered a normal reaction to abnormal circumstances, perhaps the only way a person can cling to life and withstand such a suffocating knot of social relations.” The state of student protesters at PolyU after a week of police siege serves as a disturbing echo of this. It is within such “limit situations” that the inadequacy of seeing human distress as individualised illness becomes clear.

More insidiously, by placing the pathology in individuals, the oppressive structures—state violence, human rights abuses, extreme inequality and poor living conditions, Hong Kong’s bleak future—that are causing such despair and anxiety in so many of us disappear from view, to be replaced by the double whammy of a responsibility on the person to somehow “fix themselves” through seeking help from doctors, taking medication, practicing self-care, avoiding the news; as well as the intense social stigma attached to the label of being “mentally ill.” This individualised definition of “mental health”—essentially, to be “functional” and content within a distorted and traumatising society—alienates us from others who are suffering in the same position. The stigma turns us inward in shame, and towards individualised solutions of pills and counselling that struggle to meaningfully explain our suffering.

If mental health workers are to commit themselves to justice, collective healing, and addressing the real needs of the people they serve, they must confront their own professions’ ideological allegiance to the established order and resist becoming tools of the state by uncritically propagating such discourses to the people they support. And once we reorient our collective understanding of mental health to be social as well as political, it becomes clear that any “cure” must address not only the symptoms that manifest in individual suffering, but the root causes of structural dehumanisation and social injustice.

NDPP

"Uyghur  jihadist org Turkistan Islamic Party released propaganda footage from June this year in Idlib Syria titled 'We Are Ready'. They are now fighting alongside their Al Qaeda  ally HTS against Syrian Arab Army." (and vid)

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1210731410895458310

 

China Detaining Millions of Uyghurs? Serious Problems With Claims...(and vid)

https://twitter.com/TheGrayZoneNews/status/1209686971532087297

"Claims that China has detained millions of Uyghur Muslims are based largely on two studies. A closer look at these papers reveals the US government backing, absurdly shoddy methodologies and a rapture-ready evangelical researcher named Adrian Zenz..."

NDPP

Debunking Hong-Kong 'Protesters' Lies, Spin & Propaganda

https://twitter.com/Anonylyzer13/status/1213091321683906560

"Just how u imagined it? Take that Tyranny!'

 

Sean in Ottawa

NDPP wrote:

Debunking Hong-Kong 'Protesters' Lies, Spin & Propaganda

https://twitter.com/Anonylyzer13/status/1213091321683906560

"Just how u imagined it? Take that Tyranny!'

 

I think it is insulting to suggest that acts like this are the fault or the desire of the hundreds of thousands of protestors. To make this connection is in itself propaganda. Something to remember on all sides of all conflicts - acts by individuals are not the responsibility of the whole if they are not the leadership. Who is the leader here anyway?

kropotkin1951

It would do everyone well to remember that the latest election showed that Hong Kong people are almost evenly split between anti-government and pro-government supporters. Pointing out the assholes on either side is acceptable without having to say that not all Chinese people are assholes.

Sean in Ottawa

kropotkin1951 wrote:

It would do everyone well to remember that the latest election showed that Hong Kong people are almost evenly split between anti-government and pro-government supporters. Pointing out the assholes on either side is acceptable without having to say that not all Chinese people are assholes.

Nobody is but there is a stream here implying that the protests are not legitimate.

kropotkin1951

Sorry I am not sure of the stream you mean. All the streams seem to have vigorous debate, not one viewpoint.

NDPP

Huawei Technology Poses No Threat To UK Security - Ex-MI5 Head

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1216666402465042438

"Andrew Parker insists Chinese manufactured 5G input is safe, contrary to claims of US lobbyists."

 

CGTN Exclusive: Where Are Those 'Demolished' Uyghyur Graves in Xinjiang?

https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1217248002156453889

"CGTN reporters went to Xinjiang and found that the government built a new, modern cemetery at the same site so graves won't be destroyed by flooding and wind..."

NDPP

Danny Haiphong: My Trip To China Exposed the Shameful Lies Peddled By The American Empire

https://www.blackagendareport.com/my-trip-china-exposed-shameful-lies-pe...

"...There is a broad consensus between the [North] American ruling class and the so-called [North] American left about China. The consensus position is that China is a tyrannical, oppressive and politically backward dictatorship. Fear of a globalized Yellow Peril often emerges whenever China becomes a political conversation in [North] America. My two weeks spent in the People's Republic of China with the China-US Solidarity Network's Silk Road delegation, led by Lee Siu Hin and former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, did not merely seek to challenge the many lies that the American Empire tells about the rising power in the East. The trip exposed the lies of the American Empire with a heavy dose of truth about actual conditions that exist for the people of China.

The importance of this trip cannot be underestimated given the US' ever increasing imperial aggression toward China. In fact, China has been labeled by the Trump administration's National Security Strategy document as the greatest threat to US imperial interests alongside Russia. US imperial aggression toward Iran, Syria or anywhere else in the Global South cannot be divorced from the Empire's larger strategic goal of overturning the People's Republic of China. The truth is that peace-loving people in the US would love China were it not for the plethora of racist, imperialist lies that have been programmed into the minds of Westerners. None of the Empire's lies held up in my travels from Beijing to Xian, then to Dunhuong to Urumqi - known as the capital of Xinjiang, Uyghur Autonomous Region.

I didn't see concentration camps for Uyghurs in Xinjiang. In fact it is difficult to walk more than a mile without running into a Mosque. Every street sign in the city is translated in both Mandarin and Uyghur languages. Security is more plentiful in Urumqi than in Beijing or X'ian and for good reason. Most Westerners are unaware that Xinjiang Province is the site of numerous terror attacks that have taken the lives of hundreds of people. As recently as 2014, the foreign-backed terrorist organization East Turkistan Islamic Movement (ETM) committed several attacks in Urumqi, killing dozens and injuring hundreds more. It is important to note that the founder of the broader Uyghur independence movement, Anwar Yusef Turani, operates his 'government in exile' in Washington DC and that the World Uyghur Congress is funded heavily by the National Endowment for Democracy, a virtual branch of the CIA..."

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Pepe Escobar: Why the New Silk Roads Are A 'Threat' to US Bloc

https://www.asiatimes.com/2020/01/article/why-the-new-silk-roads-are-a-t...

"The Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), as in the Chinese-led New Silk Roads, are a historical game-changer in infinite ways. Slowly and surely, we are evolving towards the configuration of an economically interlinked group of top Eurasian land powers, from Shanghai to the Ruhr valley, profiting in a coordinated manner from the huge technological know-how of Germany and China and the enormous energy reserves of Russia. The raging 2020s may signify the historical juncture when this bloc surpasses the current hegemonic Atlanticist bloc.

No wonder strategic fear was glaringly visible at the NATO summit in London last month, which called for ratcheting up pressure on Russia-China. What the New Silk Roads are proposing is wide-ranging economic, interlinked integration from East Asia through Central Asia to Iran, Iraq and Syria all the way to the Eastern Mediterranean. Just like the Ancient Silk Roads. No wonder vested War Party interests are so uncomfortable with this real peace 'threat."

Sean in Ottawa

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Pepe Escobar: Why the New Silk Roads Are A 'Threat' to US Bloc

https://www.asiatimes.com/2020/01/article/why-the-new-silk-roads-are-a-t...

"The Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), as in the Chinese-led New Silk Roads, are a historical game-changer in infinite ways. Slowly and surely, we are evolving towards the configuration of an economically interlinked group of top Eurasian land powers, from Shanghai to the Ruhr valley, profiting in a coordinated manner from the huge technological know-how of Germany and China and the enormous energy reserves of Russia. The raging 2020s may signify the historical juncture when this bloc surpasses the current hegemonic Atlanticist bloc.

No wonder strategic fear was glaringly visible at the NATO summit in London last month, which called for ratcheting up pressure on Russia-China. What the New Silk Roads are proposing is wide-ranging economic, interlinked integration from East Asia through Central Asia to Iran, Iraq and Syria all the way to the Eastern Mediterranean. Just like the Ancient Silk Roads. No wonder vested War Party interests are so uncomfortable with this real peace 'threat."

I am not convinced that China's threat to the US and other powers is really this initiative. I think China poses a much more dangerous threat.

We all know about Trudeau's comment about admiring China's dictatorship for being able to get things done. This is the real threat.

China does not have a multiparty system and does not have changing governments. It has a centralized system. This allows the Chinese government the ability to do larger, and longer term projects (silk road is just one) without concern for local or national debate. This means that in many cases large initiatives that would be political are not. 

Technology and the environment are both changing rapidly. 

While I described China above, I can describe the present political situtaitons of most other countries like the US as fragmented and frozen. It is unlikely that any of the other countries can react in time either to compete with anything China is doing as they will debate it until after China is done.

My statments here are not about endorsing or criticizing either political or economic system. I am simply observing that the present context means that nobody can compete with China effectively on any large-scale project. Other countries can compete on small scale innovations and there are breakthroughs possible. However, if you turn any of these to the need for collective action, there is no country that can implement them in real time other than China.

Put simply, the silk road is a symptom of why the West cannot compete with China but not the cause.

Many people reacted angrily to Trudeau for his comment, perhaps in part becuase they were threatened by the strong element of truth in it. Many people here and in Canada support more consensus and political competition models. They know there is a price for each system. The cost of getting support and consensus is real. there is also a cost for not doing so. We are having a debate about pipelines along these lines. Neither system ultimately is better so much as it is different and faced with challenges each one does osme thigns better. Getting things done -- China for sure but they would not be down for a debate with the people living along a pipeline if they wanted one. 

As uncomfortable as it is, when the world finally realizes just how screwed we are on the environment, it may be China that will not only be able to offer some quick mitigation through a mass action and concentration of resources, but it might even be able to do it.

This is the double sided coins that represent both our system and theirs.

kropotkin1951

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Pepe Escobar: Why the New Silk Roads Are A 'Threat' to US Bloc

https://www.asiatimes.com/2020/01/article/why-the-new-silk-roads-are-a-t...

Thanks for posting that excellent article. Pepe does a good job on the broad historic narrative. When seen over the long term it is clear that the ancient Eurasian trade ties are about to be modernized and it will benefit the economies that jump on the "bandwagon." Open trade and good transportation make for thriving economies. 

Under the cascading roar of the 24/7 news cycle cum Twitter eruptions, it’s easy for most of the West, especially the US, to forget the basics about the interaction of Eurasia with its western peninsula, Europe.

Asia and Europe have been trading goods and ideas since at least 3,500 BC. Historically, the flux may have suffered some occasional bumps – for instance, with the irruption of 5th-century nomad horsemen in the Eurasian plains. But it was essentially steady up to the end of the 15th century. We can essentially describe it as a millennium-old axis – from Greece to Persia, from the Roman empire to China.

A land route with myriad ramifications, through Central Asia, Afghanistan, Iran and Turkey, linking India and China to the Eastern Mediterranean and the Black Sea, ended up coalescing into what we came to know as the Ancient Silk Roads.

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Watched, judged, detained

Leaked Chinese government records reveal detailed surveillance reports on Uyghur families and Beijing's justification for mass detentions

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/02/asia/xinjiang-china-karakax-document-intl-hnk/

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Inside the World Uyghur Congress

https://twitter.com/ajitxsingh/status/1235998067976896513

"THREAD:  Meet the World Uyghur Congress - The US-based far-right regime change network that is the source of nearly all Western reporting on China's Uyghur Muslims. Working with Western and Turkish fascists, the WUC's stated goal is 'the fall of China."

kropotkin1951

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Inside the World Uyghur Congress

https://twitter.com/ajitxsingh/status/1235998067976896513

"THREAD:  Meet the World Uyghur Congress - The US-based far-right regime change network that is the source of nearly all Western reporting on China's Uyghur Muslims. Working with Western and Turkish fascists, the WUC's stated goal is 'the fall of China."

The Western backed propaganda arm of these nice people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkistan_Islamic_Party

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Nnevvy: Chinese troll campaign on Twitter exposes a potentially dangerous disconnect with the wider world

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/asia/nnevvy-china-taiwan-twitter-intl-hnk/index.html

Sean in Ottawa

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Nnevvy: Chinese troll campaign on Twitter exposes a potentially dangerous disconnect with the wider world

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/asia/nnevvy-china-taiwan-twitter-intl-hnk/index.html

This is a great case-study in why we should be able to post even biased articles from biased sources. 

With a little critical thinking you can learn from them.

So in this article pause for a moment and look at it without regard for who the actors are and consider the dynamics. Consider that a verbal attack, that is unwarranted, on another country will produce a wave of anger that can start a rhetorical war and an "unreasonable" response. So in this case it was a claim that a part of China was not a part of China. But it could have been about any country. Would it cause blind outrage if it were claim that a part of Canada was not Canadian? How about if it touched the US Nerve on whether Texas was American or stolen Mexican land?

You think Canada and the US would respond in a balanced way? Why expect different from China? 

Apply this to the entire conversation and consider that if you value conversation between countries that it is important to avoid stupid rhetorical ignorant attacks on other countries becuase the response will be to trigger an uncontrolable inability to deal with each other.

We owe no loyalty to one country's fight with another. We owe no loyalty to one government or another. We can learn from this article -- read through its bias to see in fact that attacks on countries - particularly national pride -- will never get us anywhere. I am not defending nationalism. I hate it in all its forms. But I am aware of what happens when you trigger it. There is no need to engage in that here.

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Coronavirus: American Factory boss says pandemic will change China’s role in global supply chain

  • Cao Dewang, the Chinese owner of the Fuyao Glass America factory, says countries will cut their reliance on Chinese manufacturing after the coronavirus
  • Global industrial chain will change, but rich countries will struggle to rebuild manufacturing at home after offshoring production for decades, tycoon says

But the trade war and the latest pandemic have cast a shadow over China’s future role in the global value chain.

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3079983/coronavirus-american-factory-boss-says-pandemic-will-change

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South China Sea: Vietnam approaches UN against China

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/ChanakyaCode/south-china-sea-vietnam-approaches-un-against-china/

My favorite quote from this piece by India's largest family owned fascist news agency. Full marks for propaganda style writing.

With increasing support from the International Community, a unified approach of ASEAN could effectively contain the Chinese sinister design of controlling the entire SCS.

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Does brash, rash Zhao Lijian really speak for the Chinese government?

  • China’s old-school diplomats, such as its ambassador to the United States, are being drowned out by new voices like the foreign ministry spokesman
  • Mixed messaging is, of course, part of the diplomatic toolkit, but given the stakes in US-China relations, some tact and prudence would go a long way

https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3080339/does-brash-rash-zhao-lijian-really-speak-chinese-government

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China plans to send Uygur Muslims from Xinjiang re-education camps to work in other parts of country

  • Inmates who have undergone compulsory re-education programme to be moved to other parts of China under job placement scheme delayed by Covid-19 outbreak
  • Critics have said the camps are a move to eradicate cultural and religious identity but Beijing has defended them as way of boosting job opportunities and combating Islamic radicalisation

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3082602/china-plans-send-ugyur-muslims-xinjiang-re-education-camps-work

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It’s unfair to blame China for coronavirus pandemic, Lancet editor tells state media

  • Richard Horton tells state broadcaster CCTV the rest of the world should try to work with China rather than pointing the finger
  • British medical journal’s editor-in-chief says ‘China is not responsible’ for the Covid-19 outbreak first identified in Wuhan

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3082606/its-unfair-blame-china-coronavirus-pandemic-lancet-editor-tells

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Chinese virologist at centre of ‘coronavirus came from a laboratory’ claim denies defecting

  • ‘No matter how difficult things are, there will not be a ‘defector’ situation,’ Shi Zhengli says on WeChat
  • Dismissal comes amid online rumours she and her family were seeking refuge at US embassy in Paris

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3082591/chinese-virologist-centre-coronavirus-came-laboratory-claim

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kropotkin1951

This hilarious cartoon has the correct timeline of events.

https://twitter.com/iwuzhigang/status/1256634658147590149

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The South China Morning Post was reporting about China's attempts to keep the COVID-19 outbreak secret months ago.  

Is Canada being a member of 5 Eyes, part of these reports?

China Lied, 240,380 (Updated) have Died

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/china-lied-239888-and-counting-have-died/news-story/5debed09c90504bdc851c9df2d3ea1a3 

Coronavirus NSW: Dossier lays out case against China bat virus program

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/coronavirus/bombshell-dossier-lays-out-case-against-chinese-bat-virus-program/news-story/55add857058731c9c71c0e96ad17da60

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Coronavirus journal Wuhan Diary continues to upset Chinese nationalists

  • At least two academics have been put under investigation for supporting Fang Fang’s work, an English-language version of which is set to be published next month
  • Backlash comes despite Amazon saying the work praised the ‘courage, resilience and perseverance of Wuhan’s 9 million residents’

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3082575/coronavirus-journal-wuhan-diary-continues-upset-chinese

NDPP

Trump Escalates Attacks on China Over COVID-19

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/05/02/usch-m02.html

"In his press conference on Thursday, US President Donald Trump stepped up his propaganda war and threats against China blaming it for the deadly COVID-19 pandemic...

As do the usual gullibles that never hear an imperial dogwhistle they don't answer and amplify.

 

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Pressured by China, E.U. Softens Report on Covid-19 Disinformation

A revised report shows how Beijing reacts swiftly and effectively to tamp down Western criticism of its pandemic response.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/world/europe/disinformation-china-eu-coronavirus.html

NDPP

You're right.  Biden has jumped on the same bandwagon. But lest we forget the truth of the matter...

 

WHO Chief: Praise For China's Response to COVID-19 Epidemic is Genuine

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2020/02/14/who-chief-praise-for...

"...What's important is not stigmatising a country or attacking a country, but standing in solidarity in fighting against the common enemy,' Tedros said."

 

 

 

NorthReport

This virus is not a China problem per say, it's a problem for all of us. And if there is nothing to hide, let's have an independent international investigation to ascertain as much as posible what happened, and take preventative measures to help reduce the likelyhood of a repeat performance. My hunch is just like the rest of us, most Chinese want to know the truth. 

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Are these latest couple of cultural contributions supposed to divert us from your intense animus towards China as revealed in your many posts.

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Another personal attack from a usual suspect. Why not try debating the issues for example and attempt to counter the arguments made in the Wired magazine article?     

Inside the Early Days of China’s Coronavirus Coverup

The dawn of a pandemic—as seen through the news and social media posts that vanished from China’s internet

AMONG JOURNALISTS AND social critics in China, the 404 error code, which announces that the content on a webpage is no longer available, has become a badge of honor. “At this point, if you haven’t had a 404 under your belt, can you even call yourself a journalist?” a Chinese reporter, who requested anonymity, jokingly asked me.

https://www.wired.com/story/inside-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-coverup/

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WHO official says agency not invited to take part in China's coronavirus investigation

"The priority is we need to know as much as possible to prevent the reoccurrence," Dr. Gauden Galea said.

WHO not invited to join China's investigation into COVID-19, disease expert says

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/who-official-says-agency-not-invited-take-part-china-s-n1197516

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"...What's important is not stigmatising a country or attacking a country, but standing in solidarity in fighting against the common enemy,' Tedros said."

 

That guy Tedros lol

NDPP

Like I said. I've never known this place not to answer an imperial dogwhistle.

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China Online Museum!

https://www.comuseum.com/contact/

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