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Iran Protests 2

Mousavi, Khatemi Declare Iranian Government 'Illegitimate'

http://news.antiwar.com/2009/07/01/mousavi-declares-iranian-government-i...

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Iran: Whose Side are We Really On?

http://thetyee.ca/Views/2009/06/29/WhoseSideIran/

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sanizadeh wrote:
Not at all. An act of killing an armed militia member who is shooting people to death on the scene, is self-defence not lynching. Do I approve it? Absolutely. It is recognized in western law as well. Did you think the rights of Baruch Goldstein was abused when he was killed by the Palestinians just as he had massacred 37 of them? I don't think you did.  

And you keep repeating that the protestors were shot at when they attacked a police station? who said that? The Iranian state TV! Now is that something we are supposed to believe?

Yes, to the best of my knowledge and based on what I heard, they were no core group of demonstrators trying to "push the envelope". They did try to defend themselves when attacked. But no provocation has been reported by any independent media.

I don't think one should try to make statements just based on his speculations, or to call reported facts "bullshit", without having more direct or first hand knowledge of the situation. Do you have such first hand knowledge when you call my points "bullshit", or is it that you just know things?

Yes in fact, I would say that you could charachterized the killing of Baruch Goldstein as a lynching. After he was subdued with a fire extinguisher, he should by all rights have been handed over to the authorities.So yes, I do think his rights were abused when he was beaten to death, after he was subdued and disarmed.

Your description combined with the doctors description of the original "arrest" of the Basiji militiaman who was suspected of killing Neda clearly demonstrate that the person was fully in control of the demonstrators and no longer a threat. Furthermore, he was let go, as you pointed out and then later recaptured. We don't even really know if the person in the first instance, is the person in the second instance, for sure, or whether it was not someone who univolved in the killing and then picked up later.

But in either case, once captured, and one presumes disarmed, the person no longer is a credible threat, so one has to assume that this was simply vigilante violence.

Who is to know? Certainly not I. Of course one would be concerned about the person being tried and so on and so forth, and also about what will happen if they are released, and the anger of people is certainly understandable, but it is a pretense to say that he was "an armed militia member who is shooting people to death on the scene", since of course he would have been shooting the people who were trying to arrest him, and must have been in the control of the demonstrators in order for them to beat him to death.

I am certainly not going to argue if such is justified, or not, but lets not try and paint a false picture of these things, were lily-white protestors happen to beat someone to death as an act of self-defence. Basically you have to be entirely in control of someone in order to beat them to death, it is hard to do at 20 paces when they are shooting at you.

My personal feeling is that posing these events as simply an issue of peaceful protestors against violent security forces is way too oversimplified. What we are really talking about is an escalation of violence, in a situation were mutual fear is a fundamental factor. The actions of individuals on either side here could be the igniting spark that causes an erruption of violence in any given situation, and I do note, that in early scenes of the demonstrating, what we see is police backing off from demonstrators, not just Basiji militiamen brazenly provoking demonstrators, though this is also evident.

Does a guerrilla army have the right to summarily shoot prisoners because they are an encumberance and therefore a liability to that army? Well, that is a tough question, and under the circumstances, such may even be justifiable, but lets not pretend that it is something other than it is: Summary Execution.

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Looking in the Wrong Places

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/954/op2.htm

"Arab analysis of the crisis in Iran reveals more about latent defeated mentalities then the crisis itself.."

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Strange article that.

In the first case there is a serious misconstruction of the kind of class analysis that Bishra ia using. Class is not something derived from simple statistics, One does not automatically drop from the middle class, and become lower class if one enters university, and then fails to get a well paying job afterward. What one often becomes is someone with middle class expectations and aspirations who is not having those aspirations and expectations fulfilled.

In the context of this particular struggle, it could very well be that a "middle class" revolt would indeed be predicated on the failure of the society to fulfill those expectations, and so, simply demonstrating that there is a substantial number of unemployed people under 30, does not in and of itself undermine Bishra's analysis. I am not going to venture a guess as to whether of not Bishra is right about the class constitution of those in revolt, against those in power, and who they represent, but as far as s deconstruction of Bishra's analysis, this simply does not cut it.

In the second case, there is precision little about how Bishra's analysis expresses a "latent defeated mentalities", except that this seems like a convenient throwaway line, dangled without an arguement or proof. I will say that calling Nasralah and Bishra "defeatists" is completely absurd, prima facie.

This brings me to the third point. If there is anything that Arabs know about this particular struggle, is that to be in opposition to the official enemies of the west is to find oneself hailed as a liberator of ones people, and to have ones name become a household world over night, whereas to be Azmi Bishra, a former elected Arab member of Knesset, who was outspoken about making Israel a country of all its people, and a supporter of popular revolt against tyrrany, and a lifelong proponent of "democratic" means, is to be persecuted, stripped of ones elected office, deemed a traitor and to be forced into exile, without even cursory comment from the western press.

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I agree  the piece is problematic but decided to post it because Al Ahram has significant reach in the region. Here's another re: Chavez on Iran  from the perspective of the League for the Fifth International

'Chavez sides with the clerical dictatorship against Iran's youth, workers and women'

http://revolutionaryflowerpot.blogspot.com/2009/07/chavez-sides-with-cle...

sanizadeh

Problematic? If there is anything problematic it is a Palestinian stateman trying to present a social analysis of Iran without having much knowledge of the Iranian society. Bishara's false assumption, that the poor support Ahmadinejad, is the main basis for his faulty analysis. It is a pity that the arab intellectutals seem so blinded by Ahmadinejad's rhetoric that they neglect to notice how much his policies, political, economical or social, have been completely in line with what the neoconservatives and pro-Israel crowd want.

Then, it is quite telling that a well-known leftist Iranian post-colonialist intellectual like Hamid Dabashi, who is a leading anti-war and pro-palestinian figure in the academia, feels necessary to rebuke the false assumptions in Bishara's piece. Can anyone here find a piece from any anti-imperialist or leftist Iranian in favour of the recent election results? I haven't seen any.   

NDPP

Agreed. Here's the latest:

29 People to be Executed Tomorrow in Karaj, Iran

http://worker-communistpartyofiran.blogspot.com/2009/07/29-people-to-be-...

US Lawmakers Call for Supporting Terrorists in Iran

http://original.antiwar.com/charles-davis/2009/07/02/us-lawmakers-call-f...

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sanizadeh wrote:
Then, it is quite telling that a well-known leftist Iranian post-colonialist intellectual like Hamid Dabashi, who is a leading anti-war and pro-palestinian figure in the academia, feels necessary to rebuke the false assumptions in Bishara's piece. Can anyone here find a piece from any anti-imperialist or leftist Iranian in favour of the recent election results? I haven't seen any.   

You may want to argue that Bishra's assumption is false. That is an entirely different than Dabashi completely sidestepping the arguement about class that is made, and using a surface statistical analysis to do so, where people's class interests are simply a reflection of their immediate material circumstance. Furthermore, you seem completely content with this "post-colonialist" intellectual lecturing Arabs about their "defeated mindset".

You seem pretty sure fo the fact that having prominent Iranian intellectuals attacking prominent Arab dissidents, such as Nasralah and Bishra as examples of "defeated mentalities", is not what the "neo-conservatives" want? I am not so sure. How the hell did Arab defeatism get in here anyway? Or could not Dabashi contain his desire to do a little Arab bashing by taking up the traditional line of blaming them for their own mifortunes, as if this is not thematic in anti-Arab Zionist propaganda?

It would have been sufficient to simply deconstruct what is wrong with Bishra's critique of the present circumstances about iran, don't you think? Or is bashing Arabs dissidents as examples of "defeated mentalities" absolutely necessary to the critique?

If Dabashi wants to attack the fundamental "assumption" that Bishra has made, then he would do better to attack the basis of the assumption, internal to the arguement, as opposed sidestepping it, and engaging in broad as hominem sideswipes, about "latent defeated mentalities".

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Unfolded Ballot Slips in the Boxes

http://www.roozonline.com/english/news/newsitem/article/2009/july/02//un...

IRNA shows suspicious recount pics

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I wish to contribute a few links on this subject, following what Mori wrote on [url=http://moriab.blogspot.com/2009/07/martial-law-government-of-khamenei.ht... blog[/url]:

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Please continue reporting about Iran - dont stop now - crime against humanity is happening now! CNN and other American or European news media must continue their reporting about Iran at this crucial juncture of the history of Iran. A big crime against humanity is happening right now in Iran by Khamenei -Ahmadinejad and it is our moral and humane duty to report about all these injustices in Iran. [...] History is requesting from you to do so when the coup d'état regime of Khamenei-Ahmadinejad for silencing everyone totally shut down the reporting from Iran.

And following what Antiwar's [url=http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/06/28/liberty-and-the-tehran-spr... Raimondo[/url] wrote about being between a rock and a hard place when it comes to committing oneself to supporting the protesters in Iran:

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"[T]he U.S. government today is the greatest obstacle to the worldwide freedom movement, not its ally: any groups or media outlets it controls are merely extensions of U.S. foreign policy, subject to its machinations and sudden policy reversals, and ultimately fated to betray the cause of human liberty. We do that cause no favors by supporting Washington in its efforts, yet by disdaining the genuine impulse of peoples everywhere to be free, we commit a moral crime." [emphasis mine]

Here then are a few links that I've been following, which I hope you will find useful. In a couple of cases, I've linked to an interesting article. You can go to the main page from there.

[url=http://tehranbureau.com/regime-survive/]Tehran Bureau[/url] is doing superb work.

There's this Iranian professor, in exile I guess, who blogs at [url=http://windowsoniran.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/windows-on-iran-72-electio... on Iran[/url]. A great site! 

Very interesting is Naj's blog, [url=http://iranfacts.blogspot.com/]Iran Facts[/url]. 

This person is doing back-breaking work trying to keep us to date with the latest: [url=http://www.caulleyscorner.com/IranNews/index.htm]Iran News - One Stop Source[/url] 

A heart-wrenching site: [url=http://iranbodycount.blogspot.com/]Iran Body Count[/url] 

Finally, for now, for those of us who need incentive to get involved, if only to just email interesting links to friends & family or just post a link on your blog: [url=http://www.sidewalklyrics.com/?p=835]Meet Mr. Abbasi[/url]!

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[url=http://elections.7rooz.com/unconfirmed/13498/]Zeynab Peyghambarzadeh of women's commission of "Tahkim-e-Vahdat" & "1 milion signatures" campaign has been arrested in Laleh park today[/url] - To be confirmed but I thought I'll post it all the same since Iranbaan who reported it is a reliable source. I'll post an update if that turns out to be not correct.

In the meantime, some information on Zeynab can be found [url=http://www.femschool.info/english/spip.php?article166]here[/url]. If any of you has more, please post links. Thx!

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Worth a read!

[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/world/middleeast/05iran.html?_r=1]Cler... Group Defies Leader on Disputed Iran Election[/url]

[url=http://revolutionaryflowerpot.blogspot.com/2009/07/consolidating-elector... the Electoral Coup in Iran[/url]

Doug

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Interesting photo Doug, That looks like a group of youth trying to clamber over a fence into a protected compound of some kind. Do you know the location at which is was shot? Is it perhaps a police station, of some kind?

Aside from the miraculous appearance of the Guardian list of those slain in post election violence, personalizing the detained and the dead, something never done when Israel unleashes its security forces upon the Palestinian population, who remain faceless statistics. it is remarkable to look at the contrast in mainstream reporting between current events in Iran, in comparison to Honduras:

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More than 10,000 people rallied in support of the transitional government July 2, the largest demonstration so far for the new government.

Thousands of Zelaya supporters, meanwhile, some of them carrying metal bars and wearing bandanas over their faces, marched to the airport to await his return yesterday, where they briefly confronted police before moving on peacefully.

From Bloomberg

The statistics of large pro-coup rallies are offered without caveat, whereas pro-Amedinejad rallies in Iran, even when very large are dismissed with questions about whether or not person were paid to attend or bussed in from elsewhere. Meanwhile when rallies in support of Mouavi were smaller, as they occassionally were, this was attributed to the fear inspired in the population by the security forces. Neither possibility is raised in the reporting by Bloomberg on the unrest in Honduras.

The contrast between the manner in which Zelaya supporters are described as masked individuals carrying weapons, and Iranian anti-Amedinejad protestors is obvious. They are described as "peaceful", even though the photographic evidence, clearly shows a similiarity between pro-Mouavi demonstrators and pro-Zelaya demonstrators. As we see above, not only do we see masked Iranian demonstrators but one is shown to be carrying military grade small arms.

Interestingly, it now seems to the photo of the protestor carrying the rifle has been removed from the Pro-Protestor blog from which I got found it.

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"...one is shown to be carrying military grade small arms."

"Interestingly, it now seems to the photo of the protestor carrying the rifle has been removed from the Pro-Protestor blog from which I got found it." 

are you referring to the photo in #14?

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No it was in the now blank post number 12. Military grade meaning a combat grade assault rifle. I found the photo though one of Gene's links.

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Something to take into consideration when reading the column at the link I posted above, Clerical Group Defies Leader on Disputed Iran Election: [url=http://enduringamerica.com/2009/07/05/iran-and-the-clerics-who-are-the-a... are the "Association of Teachers and Researchers of Qom?"[/url]

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unfortunate yes. and also counter-productive (for the anti-A camp.). 

they could at least have tried to say the armed person was one of A's undercovers.  now we're thinking A was correct and it was some US payoff.

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It's pretty unfortunate that bloggers are deleting phographic evidence that is not entirely favourable to the anti-Amedinejad camp. The photo Doug posted is of protestors trying to get into some kind of secured compound or other.

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The person was clearly with the protestors, in front, and backed up by masked youths with rocks. I really doubt it was some US stooge, more likely someone who "forgot" to hand in all his weapons after the Iran/Iraq war.

Slumberjack

It's hard to tell with a picture Cueball.  They could very well be the militia for all we know.  And besides, that little pea shooter has all the look of a childs toy.  Both sides will have an interest in photographic propaganda.  Nice clarity in that pic too.  Almost like he was posing.

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The photo is obviously legit. And yes he is posing. People pose for photos all the time. Its pretty clear no one is throwing rocks at him.

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It seems that doug's photo is indeed a photo taken from the June 15th attack on the Basiji HQ in Tehran on June 15th, and the protestors are clearly trying to scale the walls. Here is the uneditorialized version of the photo:

Video footage of the event can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBWEw2N78pY

One can clearly see that the molotov cocktails have been thrown into the compound, and also more footage of the same scene, shown through Iranian news sources clearly show that there is an organized assault on the Basiji HQ:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W20A52QhCNw

From the various sources it is possible to get a fairly clear picture of what is happening here, and this is not simply an episode of some peaceful demonstrators defending themselves against police assault, but an organized attack upon a police facility. Even the person who collected the film footage describes it as an "attack against a base". This not a matter of police provacateurs, staged dramatics or Iranian state propaganda as some have alleged here.

Any such attempt in North America, or Europe, would certainly result in the police firing upon demonstrators.

Slumberjack

It's a matter of violence fueling more violence, piling on one after another, until the entire thing becomes a subjective thing to gaze upon at a distance.  I still don't know how you could emphatically concude that the pic with gun toting chap is legit.  At any rate, the record of covert interference in Iranian politics doesn't require photographic evidence.

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I highly doubt he is a foreign plant, or agent of anyone. I am sure that many Iranians have aquired weapons over the years. That really isn't the point. The point is that the contention that the actions of all protestors were universally non-violent and provoked is nonesense. As with most of these kinds of things there was a hard core of protestors who were more than willing to move the cause to a higher level of insurgency. No doubt also there were members of the Baiji who also escalated tensions.

Among other things it is quite evident that the Basiji are badly trained and organized, as can be seen in numerous you tube videos. The one of 6 or 7 of them riding motorcycles into a potentially hostile crowd, then being dismounted and assaulted shows how foolish they are. That kind of thing is not only ineffective, it is also likely to get you killed.

It is quite evident that on June 15th a large group of protestors assaulted a police compound and were shot at. Not suprising at all. Nor is it particulaly evidence of police excess.

NDPP

Israel seeks 'Plan B' if US-Iran talks fail:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1098043.html

"In the situation that has arisen following the protests in Iran, there is much greater international readiness for harsh steps against the regime in Tehran," the official noted."

US wants Iran to know it can be attacked:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1098037

"Iran's nuclear program has been restored to prominence on the American Israeli diplomatic agenda. After Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu adopted the "two states for two peoples" formula on the Palestinian issue, American recompense came in the form of Vice President Joe Biden's statement that Israel as a "sovereign nation" will decide for itself how to deal with Iran."

 

Stargazer

And the "deciding" seems to be a nuclear based decision. I am dismayed (to put it lightly) that Israel will possibly start a war with Iran over Iran's supposed nuclear ability, while Israel can, apparently with immunity, stockpile their own nuclear weapons.

CBC reported this evening that Saudi Arabia is going to allow Israel to use it's airspace to attack Iran.

 

NDPP

This will also intensify pressure to crush the reform movement which will be seen as aiding USRAELI designs to weaken Iran

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Stargazer wrote:
CBC reported this evening that Saudi Arabia is going to allow Israel to use it's airspace to attack Iran.

Interesting, as it seems that  big oil, gas and mining has consolidated their global hegemony and are now willing to act with impunity against all the people's of the world.

 

sanizadeh

Cueball wrote:

It is quite evident that on June 15th a large group of protestors assaulted a police compound and were shot at. Not suprising at all. Nor is it particulaly evidence of police excess.

Quite evident? Not at all, and actually as I repeatedly mentioned here, the situation was the exact opposite: Toward the end of the June 15 rally, some bassijis started shooting at the remaining people randomly from buildings nearby. The plainclothes militia who had not dared attacking because of the size of the rally, came out and started beating up people. Protesters did not provoke violence, and your photo actually shows it. Why attacking an ordinary looking house among thousands if it was not the building from which shots were being fired on people? 

The building you see in the picture is not a police compound. It looks like any typical residential buildings in Tehran (as most Bassij bases are too). If you are referring to the fence, all houses in Tehran have them to prevent burglars. My father's house in Tehran looks a lot more fortified than that building in the photo.

No one denies that violence happened during the protests. We have 26 bodies as evidence! However as I repeatedly mention, protesters did not provoke violence. When they were attacked, they defended themselves. Reports from those who participated in the rallies confirm that too.

Regarding the photo of a "man with rifle", several Iranian bloggers have shown that it is a photoshop. The photo was published by two Iranian state news agencies, and the backgounds in those two photos were different! I will try to dig it and post  the link.

sanizadeh

Cueball wrote:

It is quite evident that on June 15th a large group of protestors assaulted a police compound and were shot at. Not suprising at all. Nor is it particulaly evidence of police excess.

By the way so based on you view, the Israelis shooting at rock throwing Palestinian youth was not "particularly evidence of police excess" either, right?

You know, I am surprised to hear this from you. With this statement it will be hard for you in future to oppose any kind of police reactions to civilian protests, be it in Palestine, in anti-globalism marches, etc. Is this what you truly believe in, or you are just trying to play devil advocate?

NDPP

a predictable and likely intended consequence of Biden's USRAELI threats

Iran's Revolutionary Guard Takes Command

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-iran7-2009jul07,0,5...

"Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, warned Western leaders against exploiting the country's political turmoil for their own ends...His speech, broadcast on state television, followed US Vice President Joe Biden's comments yesterday that the US would not stop an Israeli attack on Iran's nuclear facilities..."Even if the Islamic Republic leaders are at odds on certain affairs, they are united against the enemy as far as safeguarding the country's independence is concerned," he said.

sanizadeh

As usual the US/Israel come to the aid of hardliners in Iran. No surprise there. The surprise is about those who still believe this regime is still anti-imperialist. Khamenei needs Israel, and Israel need him.

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"The surprise is about those who still believe this regime is still anti-imperialist. Khamenei needs Israel, and Israel need him."

thanks sanizadeh. these sentences suggest that 'imperialism' can be understood in a broader sense to include those who, any who, start to ratchet up dynamics that inevitably lead to more (what would be a good word here??) elitist control and power over people and planet.  Current Iranian leaders can say they're against US/Israeli imperialism, but the way they act simply entrenches that reality.  It does remind me of Stalin vs. western leaders earlier, and Harper's posturing about Russia- this (intentionally) functions to reinforce what they say they oppose.  Then deals are made behind the scenes that are no good for people on the ground, in any country.

 

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Canada Uses G8 Summit to Touch Iran

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14255

"Canada is reportedly to use the upcoming Group of Eight summit to push fellow industrialized nations to forge a unified position on Iran's nuclear program. Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper is to take the issue to the G8 summit in a bid to "come out with a coherent position to deal" with Tehran..The spokesman went on to label the Islamic Republic as an "extremely dangerous" "serious threat, which possesses a nuclear proliferation program with a clear objective."

No Sign Iran Seeks Nuclear Arms: IAEA

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14248

"The incoming head of the UN nuclear watchdog said on Friday he did not see any hard evidence Iran was trying to gain the ability to develop nuclear arms.."

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Cueball wrote:

 

The person was clearly with the protestors, in front, and backed up by masked youths with rocks. I really doubt it was some US stooge, more likely someone who "forgot" to hand in all his weapons after the Iran/Iraq war.

 

Where is the magazine? This looks like a staged photo to me.

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Zionist Duet - Cotler and Dershowitz - 'Iran Must Be Held Accountable'

http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=1677908

"Irwin Cotler, special counsel on human rights and international justice to the Liberal party, and co-author of this piece is introducing a private member's bill in Parliament today called the Iran Accountability Act (IAAC)."

Barack Obama offers to scrap missile shield in return for help from Russia with Iran

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6662885.ece

 

Doug

I don't think that's a gun that shoots bullets. It looks more like a launcher for tear gas canisters to me.

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[url=http://iran.whyweprotest.net/news-current-events/9895-canadian-mps-suppo... MPs supporting of human rights in Iran[/url]

[url=http://www.iranian-heroes.org/]Light a candle![/url]

[url=http://www.payvand.com/news/09/jul/1026.html]A petition to protest against repressions in Iran[/url]

On that latter point, see [url=http://www.humanrights-ir.org/php/view_en.php?objnr=284]here[/url] [via [url=http://niacblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/08/iran-updates-july-8/]NIAC's blog[/url]].

Slumberjack

Doug wrote:
I don't think that's a gun that shoots bullets. It looks more like a launcher for tear gas canisters to me.

Tear gas dispensers will have a larger barrel.  It looks like a mock up of a HK MP5, without the long magazine.  Either way, the weapon in that picture is useless for anything but a prop.

 

Webgear

MPT9Smm

The submachine gun MPT9 cal. 9 mm is an automatic weapon and can be used for either single and bursts selectively from all shooting positions. The weapon is loaded directly with pressure of power gas and its barrel cooled with air. Cartridges are fed from 30 round box type magazine, in order to carry the weapon easily and better usage it is usually equipped with retractable butt stock, if required it can be replaced with fix butt stock.

http://www.diomil.ir/en/aig.aspx

Webgear

Sorry crossposted with SJ.

It is an MP-5 knock off.

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Is Israel Already at War with Iran?

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=8030578&page=1

"Israel may have already started a war against Iran's nuclear program - experts believe Israeli security forces are hacking into Iranian networks."

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A Safe Nest for the Seeds of our Hopes

http://revolutionaryflowerpot.blogspot.com/2009/07/safe-nest-for-our-hop...

"What has been happening over the past months in the streets of Iran, leaves no doubts among skeptics that the people know best what's in the best interest of their own country.."

Beyond Mousavi - The Movement of the Iranian Masses

http://hopinewsfromiran.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/beyond-mousavi-the-move...

"the post election demonstrations were by far the greatest challenge to the authority of the Ayatollahs' regime since it was established in 1979"

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July 9th demonstrations on Twitter [url=http://twitter.com/bistoon]here[/url] [via [url=http://niacblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/iran-updates-july-9/]NIAC's blog[/url]]

sanizadeh

July 9th is the 10th anniversary of the pro-regime plainclothes militia attack on Tehran university in 1999.

Reports coming in from Tehran indicates demonstrations and clashes with police in most neighborhoods in Tehran, in particular around University of Tehran and Amirkabir University in central Tehran.

There are also reports of protests and clashes in the cities of Shiraz, Tabriz, Mash'had and Babol.

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Andrew Sullivan's The Daily Dish is also putting out information: [url=http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/07/iran-erupts... and [url=http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/07/more-footag... and [url=http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/07/livetweetin....

There will be updates as more news comes through, I'm sure.

NDPP

The Daily Dish links are excellent - thanks

Iran Protests Flare on Anniversary of 1999 riots:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/09/iran-student-protest-crackdown

"protesters are shouting, Allah Akbar [God is greatest!] in other streets near Enghelab Square. The interesting point is that the government don't have enough people this time in streets because they have to control provinces as well, as today protest is not limited to Tehran and is also taking place in other big cities."

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"Electoral Fraud" and the movement in Iran today"

http://www.marxist.com/interview-with-iranian-socialist-electoral-fraud-...

"...What is definitely incorrect is to call our Great Revolution of 1979 an "Islamic Revolution." It was not. It was a popular revolution against the monarchy and for Freedom and Equality which was hijacked, with the help of western governments, by the reactionary Khomeini and mullahs. You have to remember that Political Islam would have had no real chance to take power in Iran if it had not been for the aid of western governments. They found this dead corpse in the dustbin of history and brought it back to life because they realized its anti-left and oppressive potential. This wasn't and isn't about Mousavi anymore. Even voting for Mousavi wasn't about Mousavi! It is about a huge population that hates life in the Islamic Republic and is willing to fight it step by step. What we have is no longer a movement against "electoral fraud", but a massive revolutionary movement against the Islamic Republic in its entirety.."

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