Military coup in Bolivia

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iyraste1313

Thnks for this....such a movement is vitally needed at a National level...

I remain curious about the dynamics of the NDP...why has Singh tweted his concerns on the coup, yet nothing official from the NDP?
Has he been muzzled? Who are the forces behind this silence?

NDPP

Obviously and self-evidently an explicit  and official NDP position against an American-backed Bolivian regime-change operation is a bridge too far. A tweet from the leader is thought to be a safe 'progressive' sop for pro forma purposes and all they can manage.  Hill & Knowlton socialism at work.

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NDPP wrote:

That MI-6 Takeover of The Guardian is Producing Some Grotesque Results

https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1197254617739993088

"Morales' claim that he was ousted by an old-style military coup is not justified by the facts. Democracy is still working in Bolivia, just..."

 NYT, WaPo, The Guardian?  No wonder some babblers always end up going the wrong way.

There was maybe ONE person here who said anything vaguely pro-coup.  Nobody here is "pro-Israel".  And it's not progressive or anti-fascist to support Putin.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

And quite frankly, NDPP, it's hard to see how you're ever going to win anybody over to whatever you want to win people over to by acting as if everyone else here is a reactionary sellout lackey or something.  It's not possible to radicalize people by insulting them.

iyraste1313

Is Canada complicit?

from Yves Engler...The Canadian Government also financed and promoted an OAS effort to discredit Boilivias´s presidential election...in a statement titled ´Canada welcomes results of the OAS electoral audit mission to Bolivia´

Freeland notyed ´Canadea commends the invaluable work of the OAS audit mission ensuring a fair and transparenT process, WHICH WE SUPPORTED FINANCIALLY AND THROUGH OUR EXPERTISE...

...WHAT EXPERTISE WAS THAT? HOW CAN WE FIND OUT? 

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

iyraste1313 wrote:

Is Canada complicit?

from Yves Engler...The Canadian Government also financed and promoted an OAS effort to discredit Boilivias´s presidential election...in a statement titled ´Canada welcomes results of the OAS electoral audit mission to Bolivia´

Freeland notyed ´Canadea commends the invaluable work of the OAS audit mission ensuring a fair and transparenT process, WHICH WE SUPPORTED FINANCIALLY AND THROUGH OUR EXPERTISE...

...WHAT EXPERTISE WAS THAT? HOW CAN WE FIND OUT? 

Singh and the NDP should be calling for an officially inquiry on that.

iyraste1313

The OAS Lied about the Bolivian Election and Coup, Deliberately…

By Mark Weisbrot

Global Research, November 21, 2019

Market Watch 19 November 2019

NDPP

Bolivian Coup Was All About the Lithium & OAS had a Hand in It, Ousted President Morales Tells RT

https://on.rt.com/a5ra

"Bolivia's ousted president, Evo Morales, has told RT that the Organization of American States played a key role in deposing him, and that Bolivia's huge reserves of lithium had spurred on the coup. Morales was among a handfull of leftist leaders remaining in Latin America and, speaking to former Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa on RT Spanish, he claimed that the OAS - a right-leaning bloc of states [including Canada] in the Americas based in Washington DC - had engineered his downfall..."

NDPP

Medea Benjamin: 'They're Killing Us Like Dogs' - A Massacre in Bolivia and a Plea for Help

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/11/22/theyre-killing-us-dogs-mas...

"Writing this dispatch from Bolivia, the conflict here is spiraling out of control and I fear it will only get worse..."

NDPP

Anyone seen anything anti-coup or pro-Morales from Svend Robinson yet? I may have missed it.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

NDPP wrote:

Anyone seen anything anti-coup or pro-Morales from Svend Robinson yet? I may have missed it.

He lost the election or did you miss that? WTF are you getting at.

NDPP

I want to know who among Canadian politically progressive notables has declared for Morales and Bolivia?

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

NDPP wrote:

I want to know who among Canadian politically progressive notables has declared for Morales and Bolivia?

Who the fuck do you think would bother interviewing him and if they did who would care? You are getting more bizarre by the day.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

NDPP wrote:

Anyone seen anything anti-coup or pro-Morales from Svend Robinson yet? I may have missed it.

For the love of Simon Bolivar-you aren't seriously looking for reasons to call Svend, of all people, a sellout, are you? It goes without saying he's pro-Evo and anti-coup.  

NDPP

I made no such aspersion and would assume as you. I simply remarked I hadn't seen anything from him and wondered if anyone else had. Taking a roll call of prominent Canadian leftists, politicians or intellectuals as to their stand and statements on Bolivia is an obvious pre-requisite for organizing support. Especially when Canada has such dirty hands in it.

NDPP

Bolivia: Practical Solidarity is Essential

https://labourhub.org.uk/2019/11/22/bolivia-practical-solidarity-is-esse...

"Evo Morales, the popular President of Bolivia, who had brought stability and growth to one of Latin America's poorest countries and was forced out by a military coup earlier this month, has called for a truth commission into the role of the Organisation of American States in October's presidential election. The OAS, which receives 60% of its funding from the US, had cast doubts on the preliminary election results, in what Bolivia's Vice President now claims was the start of an orchestrated coup..."

There should be an inquiry into Chrystia Freeland's and OAS member Canada's role in the Bolivian coup and a full mobilization of progressive Canadians to advance this inquiry and support the return of the illegitimately deposed Morales government.

iyraste1313

I agree with the importance to have a public enquiry. 

I plan to present the idea to the Union of BC Chiefs, with background information.

I plan to request friends to help access depositions from MAS leadership with respect to the OAS and Canada´s participation....suggestions as to the how and whom to preside...would be useful.....yes I too await statements from ´prominent´left spokespersons in Canada

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Since people seem to want to know about thees kinds of things, here is a Statement signed by many academics.

Evo Morales – President of Bolivia from the MAS party (Movimiento al Socialismo, Movement Towards Socialism) – was forced to resign on November 10, in what many observers view as a coup. In the wake of Morales’ resignation, there has been mounting chaos and violence. What is happening in Bolivia is highly undemocratic and we are witnessing some of the worst human rights violations at the hands of the military and the police since the transition to civilian government in the early 1980s. We condemn the violence in the strongest terms, and call on the US and other foreign governments to immediately cease to recognize and provide any support to this regime. We urge the media to do more to document the mounting human rights abuses being committed by the Bolivian state.

...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vKwFn_ujFW04AbfgC_kr94-2giTM1mdzq_RT...

NDPP

An Open Letter To Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Bolivia From Canadian Writers and Scholars

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/11/25/an-open-letter-to-prime-minister...

"In fact of law, Evo Morales is the only true, legitimate president of Bolivia...Now is the moment for Canada to show that it truly respects and supports Indigenous peoples by openly and unequivocally condemning this coup..."

NDPP

'Protest at 'The Guardian' Newspaper in London...'

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1198854742451118080

"In its repulsive endorsement of the coup, the uniquely bad Guardian editorial board declared that 'democracy is still working in Bolivia.' Glad to see someone is holding them accountable."

 

"Bold choice of Chrystia Freeland to swear her Oath of Office on grandpa's copy of Mein Kampf rather than the traditional bible."

https://twitter.com/compartycanada/status/1197279398359130112

Treacherous for Bolivia and Canada.

NDPP

'We Must Protect and Stand Up For Human Rights and Uphold International Laws' - Jagmeet Singh

https://twitter.com/6ixNuck/status/1198051196046659585

"So the NDP can retweet this tweet, but not your tweet on Bolivia..."

Can't imagine why.

iyraste1313

would be useful to know more re the power struggle ongoing in the NDP power brokers....

Rikardo

I'm back with some enraging observations that do not support the Coup d'état and the bloody repression since. Didn't Morales know what would happen ? He'd apparently lost a vote on exceeding the legal number of terms. A court had somehow invalidated the result. Could he have waited for a run-off (2 candidate) vote ? And don't forget Cuba (lo amo) the only Communist one-party socialist country in all America and a friend of the MAS Mouvement Towards Socialism. Rather like Soviet Russia the only Communist one-party state in all Europe (until 1945). Did the Bolivian Communist Party support Morales ? What about the Venezuelan Communist Party and Maduro? The French Communist party was sure chummy with Moscow after 1945. Then NATO. No importance, you say...

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

There is nothing that Morales and MAS could have done to prevent the coup, except lose the election which they didn't.

iyraste1313

Activist friends have advised me, but not confirmed, that the tide is turning in Bolivia, Considerable forces in the army and police have joined the resistance, and are coordinating or helping defend the Resistance controlled city of El Alto, amongst others.

That the interim president is desperate to convocate elections as their coup is losing support fast.......

(Hopefully not just wishful thinking!)

Could the Federal Government of Canada fall on a vote on the issue of Bolivia?
Is this reason behind the refusal of the NDP to take a principled stand?

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

iyraste1313 wrote:

Could the Federal Government of Canada fall on a vote on the issue of Bolivia?
Is this reason behind the refusal of the NDP to take a principled stand?

Given the Liberal/Tory majority there is not a hope in hell that a government could fall for following the US lead on foreign policy.

NDPP

Bolivia: Anatomy of a Coup

https://popularresistance.org/bolivia-anatomy-of-a-coup/

A decent run-down of the key elements and events.

Just Watching

I'm new here, but I really don't understand why he would run again if he knew it would be preceived as against the constitution.  Why was it so important that no one else in his party could lead.  Even Putin lets someone else lead in order to avoid looking like a 'leader for life'.  It seems that part of it is being overlooked on this thread.

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Bolivian Coup Comes Less Than a Week After Morales Stopped Multinational Firm's Lithium Deal

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/11/bolivian-coup-comes-less-week-after-morales-stopped-multinational-firms-lithium-deal

Interesting...

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Just Watching wrote:

I'm new here, but I really don't understand why he would run again if he knew it would be preceived as against the constitution.  Why was it so important that no one else in his party could lead.  Even Putin lets someone else lead in order to avoid looking like a 'leader for life'.  It seems that part of it is being overlooked on this thread.

OK...here's the skinny:

1) Evo challenged the constitutionality of the term limit referendum in the courts.  The courts- in Bolivia, judges and justices are elected, not appointed, btw, so it wasn't actually possible for Evo to "pack the courts with his cronies", as the right-wing press put it- ruled that the courts went against human rights law.

2) Most of the people-not all, but most-of the people who made an issue of Evo running against were the right-wing, anti-Indigenous opposition which dominates the eastern part of Bolivia.  These people had never accepted that Evo was the legitimate leader of Bolivia from the start.  These people never actually cared about the formalities of election-they simply wanted to restore the white supremacist old order and make sure the Indigenous community in Bolivia no longer had any share of the country's resource wealth, especially not the huge amounts of wealth which will be derived from the extraction of the country's lithium deposits-used in lithium ion batteries worldwide.  The wealthy of Bolivia moved to push Evo out of power because he had just blocked a deal with foreign corporations which would have cheated the nation out of most of the lithium wealth and cheated the Indigenous community-the people who will now be badly underpaid to extract most of that wealth-out of virtually all of it.  If it hadn't been Evo's decision to run again, they would have risen to make sure that no one from Evo's party was elected-it's not that different than the way the wealthy and the military in Brazil used a bogus corruption conviction to force Lula out of the race so that a rigged victory for Bolsonaro would be a certainty.

3) Any argument that the Bolivian military's decision to force Evo to resign at gunpoint was somehow about "clean elections" was permanently discredited when the two figures in Evo's party who were next in the line of succession to replace him were both forced, through death threats, to resign their offices and renounce their right to succeed Evo and serve as interim president.

4) Had the anti-Evo "protests" actually been about democracy, they would have stopped and let it go at that once Evo agreed to hold the second round of voting they'd demanded-even though he didn't have to; or once he was forced to resign, would at least at called on the military to back off and the illegitimate right-wing "interim" president who had essentially seized power to resign her office once Evo agreed to withdraw from the race.  The fact that they did not do either of those things, and that and gave their wholehearted support to the military coupand the illegitimate interim presidend instead proves this was never about democracy at all, but about restoring the priviliges and dominance of Bolvia's traditional light-skinned, white-supremacist upper classes.

5) For whatever reasons, Evo had never managed to change the culture of the Bolivian military and move it away from the Latin American tradition of believing it had the right to intervene in politics in whatever way it wished-he may have faced an implicit U.S. threat to overthrow his government if he even tried to do that.  That military is dominated by the same sort of people as the officers who made a pompous, arrogant show of posing with Che Guevara's corpse after they'd had ordered an enlisted man to shoot him because none of them had the guts to do it themselves-and the officers in that ghoulish "hunting party" picture participated in a military coup against a centrist government in Bolivia a year later.

6) I am not sure why Evo did choose to run again, but if this was a truly unpopular decision, he would not have had a solid lead in the round of voting which was held prior to the coup.  And again, had he not, anyone from his party would have taken around the same vote share that Evo received-the country hadn't turned against Evo's actual policies.

iyraste1313

I'm new here, but I really don't understand why he would run again if he knew it would be preceived as against the constitution.  Why was it so important that no one else in his party could lead.  Even Putin lets someone else lead in order to avoid looking like a 'leader for life'.  It seems that part of it is being overlooked on this thread....

...This is my politically incorrect response...after dozens of years as an activist, sometime successful.......

People like Evo combine qualities of angelic and genius, very rare combination.

people in Bolivia as in many of the countries I work in...are desperate for help and hope...so when a leader comes along like Evo, they will do anything to keep him in power...and that is why their revolution now ongoing will win.....

NDPP

Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

Bolivian Coup Comes Less Than a Week After Morales Stopped Multinational Firm's Lithium Deal

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/11/bolivian-coup-comes-less-week-after-morales-stopped-multinational-firms-lithium-deal

Interesting...

NDPP wrote:

I agree. More here..

After Evo the Lithium Question Looms Large

http://rabble.ca/comment/5658966#comment-5658966

Also #59

NDPP

Bolivia Coup: Hatred of the Indian

https://www.blackagendareport.com/bolivia-coup-hatred-indian

"The author is the Vice President of Bolivia who was forced out of the country along with President Evo Morales.

'The question we must respond to is, how did the traditional middle-class incubate so much hatred and resentment towards the people, leading them to embrace racialized fascism centered on the Indian as the enemy...?"

iyraste1313

 how did the traditional middle-class incubate so much hatred and resentment towards the people......

....from what I am hearing, the people have taken control of 3 of the 7 provinces/Departments of the country.....setting up their own People´s Governments...in other words every class is participating, getting trained and armed, in preparation...so for sure they will not accepts a bs controlled election...

(hmm, so why do we?)

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

The restoration of the #Trump/#Trudeau brand of 'democracy' in #Bolivia at a glance.

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

Sad and depressing. The first photo being so full of promise - so groundbreaking.

iyraste1313

There is one bright spot in this wavering coup! It puts the lie, once and for all in the myth of representational democracy. Which allows forGovernment, as long as it is the right kind.

No alternative transformational Government, if elected, can stand, for long, as the real forces that control all Societies, based on the principle of corruption based on the power of money creation hide between the facade of democracy.

In Bolivia the myth has been destroyed. 

Now it is up to us, recognizing the power of this myth, to prepare useful strategy for the Transformation from this power of money! 

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