Netanyahu: 'Take Off the Gloves' and 'Go All the Way' -- Israel attacks Gaza

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Bravo,Bolivia!

Slumberjack

alan smithee wrote:
But I suppose I shouldn't expect anything different.

It's really the best way you know to avoid disappointment.

The situation in Gaza is similar to a prison for all age groups, ranging from infants to the elderly, where lobbing hand grenades into cells is the preferred method for dealing with prisoner complaints, which is a course of action that news outlets, political leaders, and influential elements of the general public supports in principle.  

Stay away from the polls, as it only encourages all of this, and so much more.

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NDPP

RT News, July 30, 2014 (1700MSK and vid)

http://rt.com/bulletin-board/176608-rtnews-july-30-17msk/

"Israeli tanks open fire on a UN school in Gaza..."

sherpa-finn

Headline:  Tory MPs call for rethink of gov't Israel policy .... condemn "wholly disproportionate" attacks.

Oops, sorry. Another country. 

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-28586760

NDPP

US Must Stop Subsidizing Israel Barbarities (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/07/30/373411/us-subsidy-for-israel-ba...

"Well what I think we are seeing is a barbaric policy. I think the world has now concluded, much of the world has concluded that Netanyahu is a madman and that he has got to be stopped and that the Israeli security cabinet is a collection of people who have lost all touch with reality.."

 

 Israel's loyal sayan Harpo's shameful latest:

Stephen Harper Blames Hamas For Palestinian Casualties After Israeli Shelling Hit UN Shelter in Gaza

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/30/stephen-harper-blames-hamas-for-...

"Prime Minister Stephen Harper is reiterating his government's hard line against Hamas saying it is solely responsible for the death and destruction in Gaza.

The prime minister said Hamas started the war because the terrorist organization wanted to destroy the state of Israel..."

 

Crime [Israel] and Punishment [Russia]  -  by Pepe Escobar

http://rt.com/op-edge/176548-crime-israel-punishment-russia/

"So Obama, Merkel, Cameron, Hollande and Renzi - let's call them the Fab Five - got on a video conference call to muster their courage and 'increase pressure' asking for a cease fire in Gaza. Later in the day, Bibi delivers his answer in plane language.

He remains dead set on achieving his version of a Final Solution to Gaza. With our without 'pressure'.

So what's left for The Fab Five after having their illustrious Western collective behinds solemnly kicked? They decide to ditch Gaza and instead SANCTION RUSSIA! AGAIN!

How brilliant is that as an exit strategy?..."

 

 

lagatta

I got this parody: http://thepeoplescube.com/current-truth/historians-warsaw-ghetto-uprisin...

Full disclosure, was sent by old lefty and cultural worker Gary Cristall, who has always been very interested in the culture ... of the type of people involved in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.

I'd quibble, not with Gary but with the authors of the parody, that not all the insurgents were Zionists. There were certainly many non-Zionist leftists, and liberal-democrats, who took up arms.

But it is horrible to see the grandchildren, and great-grandchildren, of the murdered Jews, act so much like their tormentors.

NDPP

RT News, July 31, 2014 [1700 MSK and vid]

http://rt.com/bulletin-board/176904-rtnews-july-31-17msk/

"The death toll from the Israeli operation in Gaza surges over 14 hundred, as the Israeli PM vows to continue..."

 

Israel Always the Victim...Especially When It's the Executioner  -  by Nile Bowie

http://rt.com/op-edge/176960-israel-gaza-conflict-executioner/

"Israeli society has been utterly propagandized by emotionally manipulative and militaristic sloganeering, and while there are certainly dissenters and people who  adamantly oppose the status quo, the majority of Israelis widely support the ongoing campaign against Gaza, primarily because they have been conditioned by the state to believe they are victims of both history and the present.

Israel's leadership has shamefully preyed upon the hstorical trauma and persecution of the Jewish people to legitimize its occupation; it equates legitimate criticism with anti-Semitism, and any resistence to the state's dehumanizing colonialism an existential threat to the Jewish people.

These tendencies have given rise to a rabid brand of ultra nationalism that has clouded the Israeli conscience..."

a rabid nationalism and conscience clouding that is also entrenching itself among supporters in Canada

 

Canada's Pro Israel Zealots  -  by Yves Engler

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/31/canadas-pro-israel-zealots/

"...During 15 years of activism in Montreal, Ottawa and Vancouver I haven't seen anything equivalent to the recent militaristic pro-Israel movement experienced recently in Toronto.

And sadly the quasi-fascistic organization driving the charge seems increasingly enmeshed  within a community that once led the fight against racism and fascism in the city.

Despite the group's [JDL-Canada] links to terrorism, the JDL appears to find support from much of the organized Jewish community and even in Ottawa..."

 

Sean in Ottawa

Interesting article by Rick Salutin

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2014/07/31/the_strange_case_of...

Really worth reading.

Slumberjack

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What's made it agony for them is the visuals. It's not about whether Israel must respond to rockets and tunnels. Personally, I think it must. It's been the wanton savagery of that response, relentlessly revealed by cameras.

Notice how he goes on to say all of that, but hedges it just like the oft repeated nonsense we hear from politicians and the MSM that Israel is justified in going after the tunnels, which can only imply support for physical re-occupation and violence again and again.  All strangulated societies and groups under seige will seek out alternate ways and means of provisioning and organizing for their defence, particularly in the case of a foe who has repeatedly demonstrated genocidal tendencies.  That is the crux of the issue that his support for Israeli military action obscures.  Wanton savagery as he puts it is a prerequisite if Israel is to effectively address the tunnel economy of Gasa, unless he has in mind another way, like the Israeli's asking nicely that they be shut down and filled in.

NDPP

George Galloway's Comment: More Palestinians Dying in Israel Raids - Can Anyone Make Israel Stop Killing? (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/08/01/373596/more-palestinians-dying-...

"The Israeli regime continues its brutal onslaught against the besieged Gaza Strip while the international community fails to take any tangible actions..."

Unionist

Has anyone been struck by the number of Israeli soldiers being killed - I mean, the ones that aren't murdering civilians from a safe altitude?

IHS Janes' has noticed:

[url=http://www.janes.com/article/41421/palestinian-militants-inflict-substan... militants inflict substantial casualties on Israeli forces in Gaza[/url]

 

NDPP

Yes, and Israel itself might even help out with this...

"The Hannibal Directive.

Popular understanding of this doctrine is phrased as 'a dead soldier is better than a kidnapped one' - which was taken to mean that it would be better to kill a captured prisoner of war then have him remain alive..."

 

Did Israeli Army Deliberately Kill Its Own Captured Soldier and Destroy Gaza Ceasefire?

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/did-israeli-army-delibe...

 

NDPP

Unionist wrote:

Has anyone been struck by the number of Israeli soldiers being killed - I mean, the ones that aren't murdering civilians from a safe altitude?

IHS Janes' has noticed:

[url=http://www.janes.com/article/41421/palestinian-militants-inflict-substan... militants inflict substantial casualties on Israeli forces in Gaza[/url]

Apparently Janes' isn't alone in noticing...

 

Israeli Minister Admits Defeat in Gaza

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/08/02/373735/israeli-minister-admits-...

"Israeli Tourism Minister Uzi Landau has admitted to Tel Aviv's failure in the regime's ongoing war against the Gaza Strip. Speaking in a Friday TV interview, the Israeli minister said despite Tel Aviv's massive military operation in Gaza, the regime has not achieved any of its objectives and failed to prevent the Palestinians' missile attacks into the depth of the occupied territories.

He expressed shock over the magnitude of the losses that Hamas resistence movement has inflicted upon Israel..."

 

Roi Tov: Unilateral Israeli Withdrawal Announced

http://www.roitov.com/articles/nesiga.htm

"The increasing amount of dead soldiers and an officer apparently held captive by Hamas forced Netanyahu to take a harsh decision.

Improving Positions Backwards is an IDF idiom for 'retreating'. It is a clumsy attempt to retain some honor, to disengage without admitting defeat.

'Denizens of northern Gaza were allowed to return home by the IDF' reported Hebrew media in the same articles leaking the still secret government decision.

One of the returning families found its home destroyed and is standing within the ruins. Considering the UN image below, this is not a single case. Israel left Gaza in worse condition than the Nazis left Paris; it looks like one of the German cities destroyed by USA at the end of WWII.

This is strange behavior by those claiming to possess a monopoly on the secret of being civilized..."

or this:

Israel Warplanes Bomb Gaza University (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/08/02/373697/israel-bombs-gaza-univer...

NDPP

PFLP

http://pflp.ps/english

"Despite the deep pain and barbaric attacks, we have no choice but resistance."

NDPP

New Israeli Airstrike Hits Gaza UN School, Kills At Least 10 - Medics

http://rt.com/news/177648-gaza-un-school-missile/

"Palestinian health officials reported at least 30 fatalities on Sunday. The death toll for Palestinians in the hostilities has topped 1,700 according to the latest tally..."

 

Chomsky: Israel Committed 'War Crimes' in Gaza (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/08/02/373806/chomsky-israel-committed...

"Noam Chomsky, the renowned Jewish American thinker, says Israel has committed 'a major warcrime' as it continues to attack the besieged Gaza Strip."

lagatta

While the casualties are nothing like those in Gaza, Palestinians in the West Bank territory have been killed and wounded as well, in protests there:

http://www.alternativenews.org/english/index.php/features/popular-resist...

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

..this report from july 13th

Video: While the world watches Gaza, protests rage across the West Bank

Palestinian youth gathered again for the ninth consecutive night near Rachel’s Tomb on Bethlehem’s Jerusalem-Hebron Road on Friday, June 11th.  Clashes began on July 3rd in response to the murder of Mohammed Abu Khdeir and have continued with the Israeli government’s current operation in Gaza.  At least 8 young people have been treated for wounds sustained from Israeli forces’ use of live ammunition and dozens more for injuries from rubber bullets and tear gas inhalation.

Approximately forty IDF soldiers and Border Police fired tear gas, skunk water, rubber bullets, sound grenades and live ammunition at demonstrators last night.  During a relatively quiet moment toward the end of the evening, a military jeep sped down Jerusalem-Hebron Road and fired ten rounds of tear gas from its high-capacity, variable-payload system.  Most demonstrators fled down the street while a few remained in nearby Al Azza Refugee Camp to seek shelter from the plumes.  Medics reported four families not involved in the demonstration were treated for tear gas inhalation and two youths were treated for gunshot wounds in the leg from live ammunition. The unconscious young man who was rushed to the hospital at the end of the clip was released in good condition after being treated....

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/watches-protests-across.html

NDPP

RT News - August 03, 2014 [1700MSK and vid]

http://rt.com/bulletin-board/177628-rtnews-august-03-17msk

"Another UN school is hit in Gaza - at least 10 people are dead - as Israel steps up its air attacks while redeploying ground troops along the border..."

 

Family of Dr Mona El Farra Slain by Israeli Artillery Fire

http://uprootedpalestinians.wordpress.com/2014/08/02/family-of-dr-mona-e...

"It was shocking to find out that my cousins were killed with their children and grandchildren. But my family is not different from any other family living in the Gaza Strip.

This is the brutality of the Israeli occupation and we are expecting bad news all the time. Whenever there is bad news here, we ask ourselves who is next?

Still, no matter how much you are prepared for this kind of bad news, it's shocking and it hit me very hard."

 

Genocide Permissible in Gaza: Times of Israel

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/01/373675/genocide-permissible-time...

"If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve  the goal of quiet is through genocide, is it then permissible to achieve these responsible goals?"

 

Roi Tov: Israel Target Killed - Relative of its Minister of Defense

http://www.roitov.com/articles/purge.htm

"...Hamas had captured a commando officer that was a relative of the Israeli Minister of Defense.

The scene of the battle was patrolled by an IDF drone. Nowadays this is regular practice. The bunker monitoring the event saw Goldin being taken captive and reported backwards and upwards in the chain of command. To their horror they got a short message 'Fire a missile'..."

NDPP

Death Toll in Gaza Strip Reaches 1,865

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/08/04/374035/gaza-death-toll-hits-1865/

"...On Monday, Israel declared a seven hour ceasefire in some parts of Gaza. However, shortly after the unilateral truce, which started at 10 am, an Israeli airstrike targeted a home at the al Shati refugee camp in Gaza City, killing a child.

'There is no truce. How could there be a truce,' said Ayman Mahmud who lives in the neighborhood. They are liars! They don't even respect their own commitments.'

 

Israel Turning Gaza into Graveyard (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/08/04/374013/israel-turning-gaza-into...

"Now what is happening in Gaza is beyond imagination and it continues to happen as a result of the international conspiracy of silence. Israel enjoys a culture of impunity..."

perhaps no longer

 

Why Israel Lies  - by Chris Hedges

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/why_israel_lies_20140803

"All governments lie, as I.F. Stone pointed out, including Israel and Hamas. But Israel engages in the kinds of jaw-dropping lies that characterize despotic and totalitarian regimes. It does not deform the truth; it inverts it. It routinely paints a picture for the outside world that is diametrically opposed to reality.

And all of US reporters who have covered the occupied territories have run into Israel's Alice-in-Wonderland narratives, which we dutifully insert into our stories - required under the rules of American journalism - although we know they are untrue.

By painting a picture of an army that never attacks civilians, that indeed goes out of its way to protect them, the Big Lie says Israelis are civilized and humane, and their Palestinian opponents are inhuman animals.

And since most supporters of Israel do not have a desire to know the truth, a truth that would force them to examine their own racism and self-delusions about Zionist and Western moral superiority, like packs of famished dogs they lap up the lies fed them..."

 

Leaders Condemn Hamas For Breaking Ceasefire

http://www.cija.ca/hamas/leaders-condemn-hamas/

"Israel will now be forced to continue defending itself as long as Hamas continues its rocket attacks against civilians and its campaign of terror through its vast tunnel network;

Hamas will be solely to blame for any further loss of life."  - John Baird

NDPP

3-Day Ceasefire Between Israel and Palestinians Takes Effect - LIVE UPDATES

http://rt.com/news/177992-ceasefire-begins-israel-palestinians/

"An Egypt-mediated truce between Israel and the Palestinian factions in Gaza has begun Tuesday morning, minutes after an exchange of cross-border fire.

The ceasefire, that is supposed to see hostilities halted for 72 hours to allow for peace talks in Cairo, started at 05:00 GMT..."

lagatta

Sadly, I fear it won't be long until the death toll exceeds the WTC attack's ... and there were very few wounded in that attack, unlike these ones that will leave pain and disability for many Gazans.

Yesterday, I tried to post about our die-in set for today outside Mulcair's riding office at lunchtime, and it doesn't seem to have shown up. I'll find it and post it again on the Gaza protest actions thread.

Slumberjack

All of these temporary ceasefires leave violence and the conditions for violence in place, ie: economic isolation from the world, physical isolation of the inmate population of Gaza and the West Bank from the world, widespread deprivation, and the arbitrary heel of an occupier infused with notions of superiority in all things.  None of this should have any place in this world, except that where Israel is concerned, it specifically reserves a place for such behaviour as a national contingency in support of its project of territorial expansion and annexation, undertaken at the expense of the non-Jewish people who live there, who by chance have the misfortune of being born in a prison being run by brutal camp guards.  In other words, the tribulations inflicted upon the Palestinian population for nearly 70 years have been by design, which is to cast the victims as the terrorists in order to obscure the fact that their tormentors are.  All of which only highlights the fact that our so called ‘political representatives’ are not fit to represent us, because they represent and support ‘that.’

NDPP

TRNN: Inside Israel's Pro-War Nationalist Camp (and vid)

http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/08/inside-israels-pro-war-nationalist-camp/

FREE PALESTINE!  STOP THE JDL!

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

As Palestinians Go To ICC, Human Rights Watch Alleges Israeli War Crimes for Shooting Fleeing Gazans

As the 72-hour ceasefire in Gaza enters its second day, Palestinian officials have been meeting with prosecutors at the International Criminal Court to push for a probe of alleged war crimes committed by Israel during the 29-day offensive that left nearly 1,900 Palestinians dead. Israel has said it attempted to avoid civilian casualties in Gaza and accused Hamas of putting its people in harm’s way by launching rockets from within densely populated districts. In a report this week, Human Rights Watch accused Israeli soldiers of shooting and killing fleeing civilians in Gaza, citing interviews with seven Palestinians in the village of Khuza’a. We air testimony from Khuza’a residents who survived the attacks, and speak to Human Rights Watch Executive Director Kenneth Roth.

http://www.democracynow.org/

Sean in Ottawa

Harper is claiming that Hamas is using human shields.

Here is the context.

The density of people in Ottawa is 350 people per square km

The density of people in London England is 2500 people per square km

The Density in Gaza is 5000 people per square km

(To compare -- this is a little less than Hong Kong which has 6500 people per square km)

You can't bomb Gaza without hitting civilians.

In this context the human shield claim is garbage.

Sean in Ottawa

In the UK a government minister has resigned because the UK did not condemn Israel enough for over-reaction in Gaza.

In Canada the cheerleading continues.

From the US the weapons flow to Israel.

In Gaza the blood flows.

Unionist

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

Harper is claiming that Hamas is using human shields.

So is Mulcair:

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On July 14th the NDP, under the leadership of Thomas Mulcair, did criticise the Canadian government’s stance while at the same time blaming Hamas for all of the Palestinian casualties caused by Israeli raids: “Hamas’ continued rocket attacks from Gaza, which are aimed at civilian centres in Israel, and the use of civilians as human shields are entirely unacceptable.

There is no opposition in Ottawa. We must put pressure. Its effect will be limited. But in the face of parties acquiescing in mass murder and war crimes, what choice do we really have?

 

 

NDPP

"In Gaza we have lost so many that we love"   -  by Dr Mona El Farra

http://counterpunch.org/2014/08/06/in-gaza-we-have-lost-so-many-that-we-...

"There is no safe place in Gaza.

Here is the story of my family, just one among many stories in Gaza...

I want people to take a stand and take action to stop these war crimes."

 

What if the Children Dying in Gaza Were Jews?  -  by Robert Bonomo

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/07/what-if-the-children-dying-in-gaz...

..."They made them do it?"

NDPP

Unionist wrote:

There is no opposition in Ottawa. We must put pressure. Its effect will be limited. But in the face of parties acquiescing in mass murder and war crimes, what choice do we really have?

 

Again, Israel's Defence Attache, Brig-Gen Eden Attias, resident in Ottawa,  is tailor-made for any pressure/action. He is himself a former CO of IAFB Nevatim and was involved in both Gaza and Mavi Marmara. You can bet he is now crucial in any toing and froing between Ottawa and Tel Aviv.

He should be charged and/or sent packing immediately. And that should be the demand.

 

'Thank You To the Diaspora From PM Netanyahu'

https://twitter.com/IsraelinToronto/status/497477575862931456/photo/1

"Thanx friends for your con'td solidarity throughout Op Protective Edge..."

kropotkin1951

I live near a Canadian Airforce base.  They have housing there for families and schools and daycares.  When wil they stop using their children as human sheilds.  I hope the NDP takes up this issue and gets the Canadian military to stop this outrageous practice of having children live with their families.

NDPP

George Galloway: Solutions on ISIS and Gaza Massacre (and vid)

http://youtu.be/5l9tQ922OCU?list=PL

"Abby Martin features an interview with UK politician George Galloway discussing the violence in Gaza and the latest airstrikes the US military has lauched against Islamic militants in Iraq.."

Gaza segment starts at 7 min.

NDPP

Cruz, Bardem Blacklisted Over Gaza Letter

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/08/09/374660/progaza-hollywood-stars-...

"...Bardem has said, 'My signature was solely meant as a plea for peace. Destruction and hatred only generate more hatred and destruction. I am now being labeled by some as anti-Semitic, as is my wife - which is the antithesis of who we are as human beings..."

Zio-Hollywood targets Bardem, Cruz

NDPP

George Galloway's Comment: Israel Begins Killing Gazans [AGAIN!] (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/08/08/374513/israel-begins-killing-ga...

"Israel has resumed pounding the Gaza Strip, shortly after the expiry of a 72 hour long truce between Tel Aviv and the Palestinian resistance movement of Hamas.

The Israeli regime's 29 days of military attacks against the Gaza Strip, which began on July 8, claimed the lives of nearly 1,900 Palestinians, including more than 400 children, and wounded over 9,500 others.

'I've just called for everyone to boycott Israel, everything and everyone to do with Israel, except the 4% of Israelis who oppose the latest round of mass murder and massacres...' G Galloway MP

 

CIJA: Baird Deplores Hamas's Choice of Violence

http://www.cija.ca/hamas/baird-deplores-hamass-choice/

'It is completely inexcusable and completely unacceptable that Hamas has yet again chosen death, destruction and terror over peace, negotiations and a cessation of violence.

Terrorism is a serious threat to all democratic nations, and it must be confronted. Israel is continually on the front lines of this threat, and Canada upholds Israel's right and duty to defend itself and its citizens from such abhorrent, indiscriminate attacks..."

CIJA is the advocacy arm of the Jewish Federations of Canada. Its Board of Directors includes Sheila Copps, Stockwell Day and Lorne Nystrom.

 

lagatta

I was working on an article on destruction of housing for my local tenants' association bulletin (I've written for that for about 25 years) and couldn't  quite find something to nail down the extent of the damage, but here is a Guardian article that makes matters clear: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/11/damage-gaza-homes-israel-ha...

My article has to be very short, and in simple French so people with a grade 10 education or so can read it. The photo is also high-contrast enough to be legible in a black-and-white bulletin with limited resolution. I'm not relying only on this article, but it is a great help.

NDPP

The Palestinian Holocaust in Gaza  -  by Fidel Castro

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/11/the-palestinian-holocaust-in-gaza/

"The Nazi genocide of Jews outraged all the earth's peoples. Why does this government believe that the world will be insensitive to the macabre genocide which today is being perpetuated against the Palestinian people?

Perhaps it is expected that the complicity of tlhe US empire in this shameful massacre will be ignored?"

not to mention the complicit and approving political leaders of Canada

 

Beware the World's Leading War-Monger and Terrorist Organization  -  by Dave Lindorff

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/11/beware-the-worlds-leading-war-mon...

"Israel is the single largest recipient of US financial and military aid, and most of tlhe death and destruction in Gaza is the direct result of US-provided arms - weapons that include flesh-shredding anti-personnel shells and bombs, toxic gas and illegally used white phosphorus incendiary weapons.

In fact, the US rushed more such deadly weapons to Israel as the IDF ran its stocks down in the one-sided assault on the walled-in-Gaza-wide-free-fire-kill-zone..."

NDPP

Guardian Accused of Pro-Israel Bias over Anti-Hamas 'Child Sacrifice' Ad

http://rt.com/uk/179796-guardian-israel-bias-gaza/

"Britain's Guardian newspaper has been accused of pro-Israel bias after publishing a widely condemned advert paid for by Jewish group This World: The Values Network which accused Hamas of 'child sacrifice'.

The ad, headlined 'Jews rejected child sacrifice 3,500 years ago. Now it's Hamas turn,' was written by Elie Wiesel, a Nobel Peace Laureate and Holocaust survivor.

Wiesel proposed the battles occurring today were not of Jew versus Arab or Israeli versus Palestinian, but a battle between 'those who celebrate life and those who champion death.'

It is a battle of 'civilization versus barbarism.'

lagatta

Guardian: Israel bans national service with rights group B'Tselem in Gaza row

Young barred from serving in organisation as alternative to military service after it is accused of 'incitement against IDF'

Israel has banned young people from serving with one of its most prominent human rights groups because of its opposition to the war in Gaza. B'Tselem, which campaigns against Israeli settlements in the West Bank, was informed on Wednesday night that it has been blacklisted as a civilian alternative to military service.

The director of the body responsible for non-military options for Israelis who don't want to serve in the IDF, Sar-Shalom Jerbi, told Channel 2 TV that B'Tselem had "crossed the line in wartime [by] campaigning and inciting against the state of Israel and the Israel Defence Force, which is the most moral of armies". (The usual bullshit buzzwords, intones lagatta...)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/15/israel-btselem-service-aid-...

josh

NDPP wrote:

Cruz, Bardem Blacklisted Over Gaza Letter

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/08/09/374660/progaza-hollywood-stars-...

"...Bardem has said, 'My signature was solely meant as a plea for peace. Destruction and hatred only generate more hatred and destruction. I am now being labeled by some as anti-Semitic, as is my wife - which is the antithesis of who we are as human beings..."

Zio-Hollywood targets Bardem, Cruz

No evidence whatsoever in the article that they've been blacklisted.

kropotkin1951

josh wrote:

NDPP wrote:

Cruz, Bardem Blacklisted Over Gaza Letter

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/08/09/374660/progaza-hollywood-stars-...

"...Bardem has said, 'My signature was solely meant as a plea for peace. Destruction and hatred only generate more hatred and destruction. I am now being labeled by some as anti-Semitic, as is my wife - which is the antithesis of who we are as human beings..."

Zio-Hollywood targets Bardem, Cruz

No evidence whatsoever in the article that they've been blacklisted.

Does there need to be an actual list and if so where would it be posted.  I always thought the term included shunning and public shaming.

Quote:

Actor Jon Voight has called for the two to “hang your heads in shame.” He alleged they had stoked “the fire of anti-semitism.”

Ryan Kavanaugh, the chief executive of Relativity Media, has also said, “As the grandson of Holocaust survivors, I know that anyone calling what’s going on in Israel ‘genocide’ [instead of] self-defense is either ignorant and shouldn’t be commenting or is truly anti-semitic.”

kropotkin1951

Here is a vile oped piece by Ryan Kavanaugh that appears in the Hollywood Reporter.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ryan-kavanaugh-gaza-hollywood-stan...

josh

Does there need to be an actual list and if so where would it be posted. I always thought the term included shunning and public shaming.

 

No, it means not being offered jobs you would otherwise be offered because of your political stand.

kropotkin1951

josh wrote:

Does there need to be an actual list and if so where would it be posted. I always thought the term included shunning and public shaming.

 

No, it means not being offered jobs you would otherwise be offered because of your political stand.

Ryan has made his views on artists who don't support the murderous IDF very clear.  I'll bet he never hires them and that is a blacklist. He will never admit it because no one ever admits having a blacklist.  He is not some minor player in the Hollywood game.

Quote:

Relativity Media LLC is a global media company headquartered in Beverly Hills,CA. Founded in 2004 by Ryan Kavanaugh, Relativity Media is the third largest mini-major film studio in the world.

 

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

Kavanaugh may not be a minor player but his studio produces a great deal of crap, including very low budget reality television shows. Cruz and Bardem work for much better producers than Kavanaugh in my humble opinion.

kropotkin1951

Good for them.  I wonder about the others that signed the same petition. This man is using his position to call people anti-semitic for there views on Gaza. The tone of the article he wrote tells me anyoone siging a petition condemning Israel's murdering of civilians would have a hard time getting work in his media empire. 

lagatta

Absolutely. He is also tarring them as "Hamas admirers", insinuating that they favour the oppression of women, persecution of gay people, and whatever else he thinks people protesting these massacres believe in.

NDPP

Hollywood's Latest Blacklist Shadows Bardem, Cruz, Almodovar  -  by Philip Weiss

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/speaking-bardem-strychnine.html

"...Years ago John Mearsheimer said to me, 'You have to understand, this is mortal combat.' The more time passes, the more I agree..."

NDPP

Gaza, Ukraine and US Preparing For Urban Warfare  -  by Bill Van Auken

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/08/14/pers-a14.html

"...Images from both Gaza and Ukraine of the lifeless and maimed bodies of children, of older men and women weeping beside the ruins of homes and apartment blocks, and of innocent men and women cut down by shrapnel while leaving their homes or going to find food or water for their families, have shocked and appalled working people all over the globe.

In other quarters, however, these events are being closely watched with dispassionate and professional interest..."

josh

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Hollywood's Latest Blacklist Shadows Bardem, Cruz, Almodovar  -  by Philip Weiss

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/speaking-bardem-strychnine.html

"...Years ago John Mearsheimer said to me, 'You have to understand, this is mortal combat.' The more time passes, the more I agree..."

Well, the proof will be in the pudding, as they say. Some producer I never heard of and "unnamed" producers do not make the pudding. I don't see Hollywood going back to the 50s.

And Mark Ruffalo has been very vociferous on the issue. At least on twitter. Not too much nuance.

NDPP

US, Israel Wreaking Havoc in World: Professor (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/08/13/375170/us-israel-wreaking-havoc...

"Press TV has conducted an interview with William Cook, professor with University of La Verne from Los Angeles, about Palestinian Foreign Minister Riyad al Maliki sayhing that Israel's war crimes in Gaza will be proven after investigation by a commission appointed by the UN Human Rights Council."

 

The Washington-Pretoria-Tel-Aviv-Relay  -  by Patrick Bond

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/15/the-washington-pretoria-tel-aviv-...

"South African Zionists exhibit breath-taking chutzpah..."

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